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zabet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 09:58 PM
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"The Proper Criticism of Some Decent People"
"A Candid, Unblinking, Unapologetic, Uncompromising Look at the Leadership Crisis in Black America and the Impact on the Leadership of America"
By Dr. Theophilus Green

(Dr. Theophilus Green is a clinical and forensic psychologist who now works with many victims and advocacy groups of those affected by Catholic clergy child sexual abuse. He is a former Chicago Sun-Times, Chicago Tribune and Ebony and Jet magazine editor.)

“None of us are born with prejudice. It is not a human response or reaction that comes naturally. Yet, it is a practice that has persisted for nearly five hundred years in what is now the United States of America.” With those words, Chicago psychologist Dr. Theophilus Green begins an unflinching analysis of virtually every major luminary to influence American civil rights in the last fifty years. With uncommon results:

- On Rev. Jesse Jackson: It is embarrassing to later discover that Rev. Jackson’s real motive for going to Washington to counsel the President may have been the opportunity to go skipping down the hotel halls to play with his own girlfriend, who was unlike Lewinsky, pregnant.

- On Former U.S. Sen. Carol Moseley-Braun: Ultimately, finally and unfortunately, Sen. Carol Moseley-Braun was always alone. Top the heap, queen of the roost, best seat in the best game in town. She was also the poster woman for every black woman in America. No man, no strong family, no strong support group, surrounded by manipulators, schemers and cons. It’s a wonder she survived it at all.

- On Chicago Mayor Richard M. Daley: Say what you want about the Mayor of Chicago, his abuse of privilege, the under the table contracts, the investigations that never seem to result in indictments. He can’t pronounce the language and only plays fair for a fare. But you have to give the man his due. He takes second to no one in raising a man. Stand up and give the family just applause. His son Patrick Daley is a man for all the right reasons. (“Well done, young man, well done.”) Well done, indeed. "

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http://www.authorhouse.com/BookStore/ItemDetail~bookid~39308.aspx
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On page 238, he discusses Barack Obama....
"Want proof? Illinois US Senator Barack Obama is a part of the Chicago Mob and they protect their own, particularly in the local press. The Chicago-Sun Times and The Chicago Tribune and particularly the black owned Chicago Defender, as well as every tax paying American in Chicago should be offended at both the reception given Obama and the expectation of Africans during his visits to that continent, which are based on his race alone. But then, Sen. Barack Obama is like all American politicians--more concerned about Africans starving in Africa than Americans unemployed in America. That is why Obama went to Africa to receive his accolades, while Americans were dying in a war to get theirs.
Obama is lionized in America because he was the first black senator unafraid to admit he was black and was sympathetic to the issues of Black Americans even though he offered no bills to address their unique difficulties. But he was elected because he is a part of the Chicago Mob. And like a loyal member, he keeps his mouth shut on mob activities. None in the local political mob of Illinois will speak out about Catholic clergy child sex abuse, the moratorium on the death penalty, the abuse of legal practices against African-Americans by a criminally flawed state legal system. That is, none will speak without the permission of the Pope, the mayor or the political appointee in charge at the time. Just so's you know, when a black American Senator receives that kind of treatment in his own country, much less his own state, then it'll mean something more than the prospect of more American dollars going to another foreign country at the direct expense of every American family."

http://books.google.com/books?id=CZaStSHkYPIC&pg=PA238&lpg=PA238&dq=barack+obama&source=web&ots=PsD3HbksNx&sig=fYwc5csK0hBYgM7IU5r2DWe2ka4

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No facts to support these claims, just an interesting point of view.
Not saying I agree or disagree.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 10:00 PM
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1. You are funny.
If this guy was in his right mind and Obama was part of a mob, doncha think the Clintons would have all that dirt dug up by now?

Your motives are showing...
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zabet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 10:08 PM
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8. What? Am I not supposed to support my candidate?
At least I post citing sources not some
rant about how a candidate talks, dresses
or whether they had plastic surgery or not.
Your posts that are pro-Obama and/or anti-
Clinton show your motives also.

Watch out for my Hillary Agenda. :rofl:
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 10:14 PM
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10. "Not saying I agree or disagree." Your quote; why not be truthful?
And FTR, I do not post anything about Clinton concerning cosmetic issues that have nothing to do with the real political ones.
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zabet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 10:38 PM
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14. I was truthful.
I do not agree or disagree. There are
not enough facts to prove or disprove the
allegations by the author. I kind of doubt
the truth but, then again wonder how it got
into a book without slander charges.
Thanks for the roundabout accustion that
I was not telling the truth.
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Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 10:01 PM
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2. We are born to be prejudiced ... hard wired to distinguish familiar from
frightening. Why can't we start w/facts? There is nothing unusual about the US ... this whole article starts from a losing perspective.
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enid602 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 10:04 PM
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5. perhaps
That's an interesting point you make.
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Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 10:22 PM
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11. Talk about stereotypes ... just got off the phone w/my Italian partner
I mean, first generation ... speaks the language. Anyhoo, his parents are here for two weeks and they spent the day doing the tourist thing, while he's on the phone w/investors. So I hear him shushing her away and have to handle this delicate family affair w/something. So, I remember a Ray Romano routine; I tell him that I heard on good authority that to stop an Italian mother from feeding you, you must shoot her ... and shoot to kill, or you'll just slow her down.

That did it. He's having dessert w/em now and I can only imagine the gesturing.

Look, stereotypes exist for the best and worst reasons ... life doesn't have to justify anything that works.

Enjoy the evening.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 10:03 PM
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3. I've never seen DU take so much crap off the internet
as credible until this election.

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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 10:04 PM
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6. any old port in the storm, eh?
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 10:12 PM
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9. Yeah, those Peggy Noonan posts got to me as well
n/t
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LadyVT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 10:03 PM
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4. Thanks for the post.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 10:05 PM
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7. "Senator Barack Obama is a part of the Chicago Mob"
I think we need to start a new forum!
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 12:06 PM
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29. Isn't Denzel doing a movie about that right now?? N/T
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 10:27 PM
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12. Chicago politics and Barack. They'll make a movie of it one day. n/t
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 10:28 PM
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13. Do you ever goggle or wikipedia to check someone out or
Edited on Sat Feb-23-08 10:29 PM by grantcart
do you just cut and paste all of the time - gee if I can find something bad on Obama I will put it up. So glad you are limited to 3 threads a day

You are aware that this guy is an anti-semitic nut job right?

Here is a typical sentence


Even if you go to a Jewish mental health workers(sic), you'd still be better off eating rocks with salt as an appetizer.

or

If black and white lawyers were any good, they would solve America's immigration problem in a Mexican minute, which is 75 seconds, and become millionaires over night. There's not enough money in immigration law for Jewish lawyers, comparatively.


http://books.google.com/books?id=eZFrUHx-SKgC&pg=PA218&lpg=PA217&vq=%22the+American+Medical+Association.+The+American+Psychological+Association,+the+American+Psychiatric+Association,+the+National+Association+of+Social+Workers,+the+American%22&output=html&sig=5bArAIxmiTwhl-h-4mnTHEJf5wY


alerting
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zabet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 10:43 PM
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15. Nothing I posted was any of his anti-semitic
garbage. Yes I do google. :eyes:

If you went to the links you would know
I could not cut and paste the excerpt
from the book.

I could see you alerting if I referenced
those but this book was about civil rights
figures and no anti-semitic remarks were in
my post. The only ones in this thread are the
ones you posted - thanks - not.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 11:09 PM
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16. So what your saying is that it is ok to use a racist antisemite as
long as you do not use the actual antisemite material?????????????????

Really?

So having read the antisemite and racist material you still felt he was a good source for this forum.


alertx2
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zabet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 11:38 PM
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17. No I did not.
Not participating in you trying
to get this thread hijacked and
locked.

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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 12:53 AM
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18. No I am sure that you will put it in your journal and that you should
show great pride in promoting rumors of the RW mill. Just out of curiosity what republican site did you get the obscure rantings of a man who amongst other things believes that there is a conspiracy between the National Basketball Association and the National Bar Association hence their same initials NBA?



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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 01:01 AM
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19. And as for "Dr." green being well known therapist you forgot to say
quote
In 1996 the DPR instituted disciplinary
proceedings against Dr. Green, alleging
that he had violated Illinois law
unquote
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/cgi-bin/getcase.pl?court=7th&navby=case&no=011328

After a hearing the
DPR's disciplinary board suspended Dr.
Green's license for a minimum of two
years and imposed various conditions on
its reinstatement. The disciplinary board
also barred Dr. Green from supervising
prospective licensees as long as his
license was suspended and fined him
$8,000. Thereafter, HCSC, which required
psychologists to be licensed as a
prerequisite to reimbursement, ceased all
payments to Dr. Green for services that
he rendered to its insureds.

So Dr Green your great source sues to get his degree back and the court gives a summary judgement because he is a nut. In their words

Dr. Green's argument is difficult to
grasp, but he appears to contend that the
district court erred in granting summary
judgment by ignoring evidence that
establishes the existence of a conspiracy
between HCSC and the DPR.

a summary judgement means that after hearing the theory of the case they didnt even bother to hear evidence
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 01:08 AM
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20. Green sues attorney general license suspended 60 years
Dr. Green’s suit also seeks to require the federal courts to remove sanctions from his
license, resulting from his compliance with child protection laws, while ignoring far more serious
violations by the church. Wisconsin and Indiana also ignored the church clergy child abuse, but
suspended Dr. Green for an unheard of “sixty years” because of his race; ignoring priests because
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 01:14 AM
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22. Dr Green with suspended license files complaing about Dr Phil
Dr. Phil works in a profession with a lot of people who are jealous of his success, and now those people are going to try to take big Phil down. TMZ reports:

TMZ has obtained a copy of a complaint against Dr. Phil which was lodged with the California Board of Psychology, alleging the TV doc was illegally practicing without a license when he paid a visit to one Britney Spears.

We’ve learned the person who filed the complaint is a psychologist. Dr. Phil has never been licensed to practice in California, and he retired his Texas license in 2006.

The shrink believes when Dr. Phil visited Brit in the hospital earlier this month, he was practicing psychology. A "Dr. Phil" honcho told TMZ the visit was never meant to lure Britney onto the TV show — and that there were never plans to put her on the air.

A Psychology Board rep told TMZ if the Board finds the complaint credible, it would be referred to the D.A. for review. Practicing without a license is a felony in California.

The psychologist who filed the complaint also alleges Dr. Phil violated HIPAA laws by "discussing or divulging a patient’s medical condition … with the media," in reference to a press release issued by Dr. Phil.

The complaint also says, "A petition is being circulated to remove the "Dr. Phil" show from the air." We’re told the shrink is trying to get other psychologists to sign.

As for the Dr. Phil show’s response — no immediate comment.

Dr. Phil is a former lawyer too. He would know if he had violated the law. I’m not even sure what Dr. Phil did, or does, even requires any kind of license. On his show he counsels, but it’s more of his opinion than anything else. This should be interesting to watch, but Dr. Phil knows what he is doing. As for the other guy who reported Dr. Phil, well he needs some help with his depression over a lagging career. Maybe Dr. Phil can help.

http://www.hollywoodgrind.com/dr-phil-investigated-by-psychology-board/
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 01:20 AM
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24. Rantings from the madman Dr. Green
Edited on Sun Feb-24-08 01:48 AM by grantcart
Lassie = defined as quote Lassie is a type of yoghurt-flavoured dog unquote http://hughgrantsquidtest.blogspot.com/2007_10_01_archive.html

Why has't the NBA formed an organization like the Jews did with the American Civil Liberties Union to protect legal injustice throughout America? Exactly!

If you doubt me ask yourself one last question? Why did the National Basketball Association take on the initials of the only black legal association? Exactly!

When it comes to killing yourself and screwing up your family, you can't do better as a profession than black dentists.

Here's my final proof on the limited legal ability of black and white trial lawyers versus the shrewdness of Jewish lawyers. Illegal aliens are not covered by the US Constitution . . .All possessions that any illegal has and everything any legal citizen wants from them can simply be taken away because they are in the country illegally.

When public leaders, or victimized families bleed their emotional difficulties in the newpapers each day, not one of those organizations demand a professional do the job that Ann Landers and Dear Abbey made millions doing badly. Just ask Maury Povich, Jerry Spring, Oprah Winfrey and Dr. Phil. But ask me first I'm part of the joke. Isn't it funny aren't you laughing, don't you wihs I told you more?


Today the United Nation's the place where the planning for the economic destruction of the American peoople is not only openly discussed but bets are collected at house odds. The American people are told they can participate if they cover all bets put the American public is told (sic) it's a United Nations membership fee.
http://books.google.com/books?id=eZFrUHx-SKgC&printsec=titlepage&dq=dr+theophilus+green&source=gbs_toc_s&cad=1#PPA217,M1

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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 01:10 AM
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21. Holy shit. WTF are you trying to do?
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 01:18 AM
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23. I want people to understand that in order to spread rumors about
Obama Clinton supporters apparently are willing to take the rantings of a madman and spread them. Its been several hours since I pointed out to the OP that the author of this hit piece on Senator Obama is a lunatic, and a antisemitic racist. She said that the OP was still good because she didn't quote that part of it even though she was aware that he was in fact a racist anti semitic.

In another thread someone asked me out of the blue if I had heard that Obama was linked to the mafia so this is how rumors are started. I think everyone should be well informed on exactly what kind of sources these anti Obama forces are using to try and destroy his reputation.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 01:51 AM
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25. You seem very quiet how come you have run away from Dr Green
I would be interested in getting your comments in post 19 20 22 and 24.

Did you see what Dr Green has said about Hillary Clinton.

How in the world did you find the writings of this guy? Was it fed to you by a campaign source? Did you find it on a blog?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 06:54 PM
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27. desperate and pathetic and willing to post any vile thing you find
not a pretty picture, dear.
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muryan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 11:43 AM
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28. very sad to see this here n/t
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