Race baiting. Rezko. Handshake. Plagiarism. Mailers.

[mudesi]

Anything else?

Nine more days of this mudslinging by the Hillary campaign may just drive a wedge so deep into the Democratic party that the Republicans take 2008 in a cakewalk.

It just goes on and on and she doesn't seem to learn that it doesn't work on Obama and it's only making Democrats look ridiculous while McCain laughs all the way to the White House.

I'm sorry, but I don't see this kind of thing happening between McCain and Huckabee. Maybe it's the media not reporting it, I don't know. It sure gives the Republicans plenty of ammunition though.

And if Clinton stubbornly and stupidly takes this all the way to the convention, if she keeps on insisting that Florida and Michigan should count, if she keeps on trying to court the superdelegates, you can bet the Republicans are going to put it all in their television ads. Look at those wishy washy, power hungry, divisive, bickering, immature Democrats!

I don't think I can take this anymore. STOP IT HILLARY CLINTON YOU ARE HURTING THE PARTY. If you're going to drag this out, at least get out of the gutter. Jesus.

[JimGinPA]

1. K&R

[apocalypsehow]

2. Well said, and precisely on point. K & R.

:thumbsup: :kick:

[dailykoff]

3. Don't forget the Bhuto assassination.

"Hillary ready, Obama reckless." And what do you know, just today Dumbya mumbled something about a major terrist strike in the works, so there's still lots more desperation to come.

[mudesi]

5. I'm disgusted by her more with each passing day (nm)

[bellasgrams]

6. I know how you feel. I've felt that way to, about BO, I will not vote

for him. Can't stand him and his nasty lies and his blinded followers!!!!!

[Name removed]

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[casus belli]

4. I agree. One thing though...

...on the Republican side, they don't have a real contest to speak of, so it can be civil. It was a lot less cordial when Giuliani and Romney were still in. I think when it's close and down to the wire, the political equivalent of the hail mary is the attack ad. Go big and go long. I would like to think that progressive candidates wouldn't be subject to the same sort of strategies, but unfortunately it looks like the desire to win often trumps political sensibility.

[busymom]

8. bullshit

She is just calling him on his crap. Maybe the dems ARE ridiculous. I've lost faith in this party....everyone is all over poor Obama, but Clinton has been viciously attacked by the media and unfairly accused of all kinds of racism and things that aren't true and I don't hear a word about it.

Obama will win because the republicans will be sure and get out that crossover vote...and then McCain will win in 2008 when they line up behind him. I have a feeling quite a few dems will be making a first ever republican vote this year too after the antics of this primary season.

[angie_love]

9. How do you feel about McCains joke?

Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because her father is Janet Reno.”

– Sen. John McCain, speaking to a Republican dinner, June 1998.


Just remember that when you vote for McCain.

[busymom]

15. source?

Did he say this? That disgusts me if he did.

[angie_love]

16. Here you go. read on for link.

http://www.salon.com/news/1998/06/25newsb.html

Keep in mind he said this when Chelsea was only like 15 years old. He said this while she was a young kid growing up. It tells me everything I need to know about him. Crap like this make me appreciate both Obama and Hillary.

"Salon feels its readers deserve the unadulterated truth. Though no tape of McCain's quip has yet emerged, this is what he reportedly said:

"Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly?
Because her father is Janet Reno."
The joke may be crude, but it pales in comparison with the published details surrounding the presidential sex scandal. McCain's two-liner conveys some interesting insights into what he considers humorous (lesbianism, a young woman's physical appearance), particularly since it was delivered to a Republican crowd. Remember, this is the party that champions pro-family values.

McCain's lapse in judgment -- admittedly, not as big a lapse as having a sexual relationship with an intern -- may be a significant clue into aspects of his "character," and thus relevant to the voting public. But many voters have been spared this insight, thanks to the censors in the press."

[sandnsea]

10. My god

First the Muslim emails came out of her campaign. Then Bob Kerrey came out with his comments about how great it was that Obama's middle name was "Hussein" and his Muslim connections. Then her NH Chair spouted nonsense about Obama being a drug dealer. Then Cuomo made his "shuck and jive" comment. An adviser said Obama was just the "imaginary hip black friend". Her MLK comment and Bill's SC comment was just the final straw to what had gone before. How the hell much racist shit does one campaign have to engage in before you can see it?

[angie_love]

11. don't forget Bill Clinton comparing him to Jesse Jackson

but these ppl are too blind to realize it.

[Buzz cook]

12. Don't forget that Al Gore is a big fat lier

Democrats believing the media is something I never thought I'd live to see.

[angie_love]

14. huh? care to elaborate?

I saw the video of Bill saying Obama was like Jesse Jackson.

[lastliberalintexas]

28. LOL and welcome to DU

Unfortunately you see it far too often around here lately. (so long as it's directed at the other campaign, anyway)

[mudesi]

26. How much more is there?

I was only able to come up with a few of the pathetic smear attempts by Hillary Clinton off the top of my head. I forgot about all those other things you just listed. How many more did we miss?

[noiretextatique]

17. on obama's "purity"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4737647

[K Gardner]

13. I think the media will take her apart tomorrow and Monday over her outburst today..

they'll be lying in wait for the debate. No way it turns out well for her.

I wouldn't be surprised to see so many superdelegates jumping ship and poll numbers shifting that she drops out before March 4th.

[Quixote1818]

18. It's like the Joe Lieberman monster has infected her.

It's getting rather disturbing.

[cottonseed]

19. There will be more.

Who knows what it will be tomorrow, but it will be something.

[PurityOfEssence]

20. How DARE anyone stand in his way!

This is just galling. I will vote for whichever of the two gets the nomination, but this is just tiresome. I'm thrilled that so many people have finally had their multiple Obamagasms and finally found the one true whatever, but their love and joy doesn't grant them the right to trample others who have some hope and sincere desire for the future.

YOUR DREAMS ARE NOT MORE IMPORTANT THAN THEIR DREAMS. Got it?

Just because so many of the bereft who were lost are now found is no justification of the righteous demands that anyone who stands in their way desist out of some kind of cosmic decency.

Morally, ethically and on policy, Obama is NOT superior to Clinton. Very convenient skewing of history has been repeatedly used to portray him as steadfastly and consistently against the IWR, even though evidence exists to the contrary and his voting to sustain the war effort is quite consistent. His "peculiar" habit of voting present or not voting at all on important "stand up and be counted" legislation is a huge red flag for some of us. Slinging mud about enforcing a mandate completely ignores that his watered-down and more corporate health plan would have to address the same issue. Taking money from big medicine and having a wife who makes more than $300K a year from medicine-for-profit is an issue, too.

Then there's the McClurkin issue: the worst act, by far, of calculated political ugliness this season in either party: playing the race and religion card to carve off a big voting bloc, and then turning a blind eye toward cultural bigotry, stiff-arming any opposition and finally downplaying the importance of his role to the point of brazen deceit while making sure the token appeasement gay preacher is white.

The very idea that still holding out hope for a very viable candidate is somehow an attack on the soul of progressivism is itself a privileged, intolerant, selfish and anti-pluralist act, and any equivocation that she's saying worse things about him than he's said about her is simply wrong, whether deliberately so or not.

We do not "owe" him this nomination, and he deserves no immunity from the standard resistance that any mere mortal should accept as part of the territory.

I don't like her, but I don't much like him after all this crap, and more importantly: there are good and decent people who have the same welling up of tearful joy at the prospect of her becoming president, and his zealots have no right to run roughshod all over them and no right whatsoever to somehow hold others ransom for their own glorious ecstasy.

Remember: he was the one who said he was going to campaign on a higher plane, so slinging mud and falsehoods is a true sin against the goodwill many of us were willing to presume, and this very convenient posturing of being beatific spurs an extreme backlash when gutter politics gush forth as they have.

How dare anyone get in your way indeed.

[NMMNG]

21. I know. The audacity of some people!

I don't know why anybody dared to run against Obama in the first place. They should have just realized that the Democratic nomination was rightfully his.

Now how about we just let everybody send in our votes for us, since they've already decided who the candidate is? :sarcasm:

[PurityOfEssence]

23. You again...

Just plain trouble, that's all...

[NMMNG]

24. Gotta have a hobby.

:shrug:

[EFerrari]

25. No. By far, the Clintons have run the more negative campaign.

You may not like that but it's materially true. They have been disgusting in the most boneheaded way. And they promise to continue to be as destructive as possible, as they have always been.

[lastliberalintexas]

29. Ironically that is the only thing that I like about the Clintons

People claim that they do not like negative campaigns, but political scientists will tell you that study after study show how effective negative campaigning actually is.

I am probably the only one who will admit to this, but I hope above all else that Obama turns negative if he gets the nomination. (just so long as it's directed at the repubs and not at the irreligious, like me)

[NOLALady]

22. The Clintons have been in politics long enough

to know that this type of negativity will tear up the party.

They act as if they can't get to the WH, they will make sure no one else will.

If the Repubs win, they will have no one to blame but themselves. Yet, I'm sure they will find a way to blame Obama.

[stillcool]

27. That Clinton campaign sure is something!!

Clinton Surrogate Compares Obama Ad to Nazi March
http://news.yahoo.com/s/thenation/20080201/cm_thenation/45278988_1
Fri Feb 1, 2:23 PM ET

The Nation -- On a media conference call organized by the Hillary Clinton campaign today, Clinton surrogate Len Nichols compared an Obama health care ad to Nazis.
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Accusing political opponents of Nazism is an outrageous smear. Raising the specter of a Nazi march in response to a health care mailer that evokes the insurance industry is so absurd, it would be hard to take the attack seriously, were it not launched from a high profile national campaign conference call in this crucial stretch of the presidential race. And political observers know, of course, that the Clinton Campaign regularly arranges opportunities for surrogates to launch these kind of smears, which are later followed up with apologies. (See: Bob Johnson, Bill Shaheen, Bob Kerrey, and Francine Torge, to name the most recent offenders.) For his part, Nichols did not immediately return a call requesting further comment.
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Len Nichols, Director of New America's Health Policy Program, stated, "For nearly 17 years I have worked tirelessly to reform our nation's struggling health system. Today my passion overwhelmed me. I chose an analogy that was wholly inappropriate. I am deeply sorry for any offense that my unfortunate comments may have caused. I made unfortunate comments that do not accurately reflect my bipartisan conviction, political philosophy, or most importantly, my opinions about Senator Obama and his historic campaign for the United States presidency."

Clinton adviser steps down after drug use comments
Earlier Thursday, Clinton personally apologized to rival Obama for Shaheen's remarks.
Obama accepted her apology, according to David Axelrod, the top political strategist for the Obama campaign.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/12/13/clinton.obama/index.html

January 6, 2008, 5:18 pm
Edwards: No Conscience in Clinton Campaign
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/06/edwards-no-conscience-in-clinton-campaign/
By Julie Bosman
KEENE, N.H. – John Edwards angrily took on Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton at two news conferences in a row on Sunday, saying that her campaign “doesn’t seem to have a conscience.”

COMPTON, Calif. (AP) — Hillary Rodham Clinton and her campaign tried to mend ties to black voters Thursday when a key supporter apologized to her chief rival, Barack Obama, for comments that hinted at Obama's drug use as a teenager. The candidate herself, meanwhile, praised the Rev. Martin Luther King and promised to assist with the rebirth of this troubled, largely black city.

Bob Johnson, the founder of Black Entertainment Television, apologized for comments he made at a Clinton campaign rally in South Carolina on Sunday that hinted at Obama's use of drugs as a teenager.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-01-17-johnson-apology_N.htm?csp=34

December 10, 2007
Third Clinton Volunteer Knew Of Smear E-Mail

A third volunteer for Hillary Clinton's campaign was aware of a propaganda e-mail alleging that Barack Obama is a Muslim who plans on "destroying the U.S. from the inside out."

"Let us all remain alert concerning Obama's expected presidential Candidacy," the email reads. "Please forward to everyone you know. The Muslims have said they Plan on destroying the U.S. from the inside out, what better way to start than at The highest level."

Two Clinton volunteers, Linda Olson and Judy Rose, have already been asked to resign from the campaign for their roles in forwarding the e-mail. The AP reported yesterday that Olson, a volunteer coordinator in Iowa County, sent a version of the e-mail to 11 people, including Ben Young, a regional field director for Chris Dodd's campaign. Young passed it on to the AP.
http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2007/12/third_clinton_v.html

Hillary: Sorry for Any Offense Campaign (Bill) Has Caused
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FB65wJ6Rcfs

Bill Clinton Asks for a Second Chance
By Liz Halloran
Posted February 11, 2008

The morning after his wife, Hillary, was routed in three state contests by Sen. Barack Obama in their dead-heat battle for the Democratic nomination, former President Bill Clinton made his case for her before a packed Sunday service at one of the largest black churches in Washington, D.C.
But first he offered an apology of sorts for racially tinged comments he made about Obama and his candidacy that have triggered a backlash in the black community and among many other Democrats.

Clinton invoked his "worship of a God of second chances" in pronouncing himself glad to be at the Temple of Praise, which claims nearly 15,000 members. His invocation of second chances echoed comments he made early last week at black churches in California, where he campaigned for his wife before that state's Super Tuesday primary, which she won.
http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/campaign-2008/2008/02/11/bill-clinton-asks-for-a-second-chance.html

Bill Clinton To Apologize At LA Black Churches
Once again, Bill Clinton is ready to repent.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/02/bill-clinton-to-apologize_n_84573.html
On Sunday the former president is scheduled to visit black churches in South Central Los Angeles, where he's expected to offer a mea culpa to those who "dearly loved him" when he was their president, Rep. Diane Watson (D-Calif.) says.

Watson, a member of the Congressional Black Caucus who has endorsed Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.), tells us she'll usher the former president to more than half a dozen churches in her district where she says he needs to "renew his relationship" with congregants who were turned off by his racially tinged comments in the days leading up to and following the South Carolina primary. (Such as when Clinton compared Sen. Barack Obama's landslide victory to Jesse Jackson's wins in 1984 and 1988.)

http://graphics.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/politics/20080112_nevada_lawsuit.pdf
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/17/a-feisty-bill-clinton-defends-nevada-lawsuit/
CLINTON ALLIES SUPPRESS THE VOTE IN NEVADA...
Back in March, the Nevada Democratic Party agreed to set up caucus locations on the Vegas strip for low-income shift workers, many of them members of the state's influential Culinary Union, who commute long distances to work and wouldn't be able to get home in time to caucus. It was an uncontroversial idea until the Culinary Union endorsed Barack Obama and the Nevada State Education Association, whose top officials support Clinton, sued to shut down the caucus sites.
The Clinton camp played dumb until yesterday, when President Clinton came out in favor of the lawsuit.
Clinton's comments drew a heated response from D. Taylor, the head of Nevada's Culinary Union, on MSNBC's Hardball. "He is in support of disenfranchising thousands upon thousands of workers, not even just our members," Taylor said of Clinton. "The teachers union is just being used here. We understand that This is the Clinton campaign. They tried to disenfranchise students in Iowa. Now they're trying to disenfranchise people here in Nevada, who are union members and people of color and women."
Rank-and-file members of Nevada's teachers union also come out against the lawsuit filed by their leadership. "We never thought our union and Senator Clinton would put politics ahead of what's right for our students, but that's exactly what they're doing," the letter stated. "As teachers, and proud Democrats, we hope they will drop this undemocratic lawsuit and help all Nevadans caucus, no matter which candidate they support."
The lawsuit's opponents make a persuasive point. Creating obstacles to voting is what the GOP does to Democrats, not what Democrats should be doing to other Democrats.

[yourguide]

30. Every time she pulls this crap

I give Barack more money.

[Jai4WKC08]

31. Too late

Obama has already split the party, and he did it all for himself. I think that may be the biggest reason to vote against him. Well, that and the fact that he ain't qualified to be president.

[Alexander]

32. There's more: Obama sold drugs. Obama knows terrorists. Obama's a commie. Obama's a Muslim.

The Hillary Clinton smear-fest is in overdrive right now.