"Bitch is the new black!"

[aquart]

Clearly, I have not appreciated Tina Fey sufficiently. I will do so from now on, however.

[Ava]

1. Tina Fey rocks

love her..

she made a good point though. isn't it strange how most successful women get labeled as "bitches"?

[aquart]

2. Not "most," honey. All.

Of course, the term used to be sacred. Patriarchy turned it into a slur. Vote for more patriarchy.

[Metric System]

3. Lover her! "I'm a bitch. Amy here's a bitch too. And guess what? Bitches get things done."

Paraphrasing, but wow what a great segment.

[Bicoastal]

4. Weren't you the same folks who were TRASHING SNL a few months ago...

...due to Amy Phoehler (as Hillary) getting called a witch?

[redstate_democrat]

6. I guess it's

okay to start referring to Hillary as a bitch, now. I guess those who do call her this shouldn't expect any complaints about it. WOW.

[redstate_democrat]

7. I think

it is totally insulting. As an Obama supporter, I can totally see how this is offensive. Since when is a woman, who gets shit done and is strong, is supposed to be called a bitch? I guess they are trying to "own" the word. Whatever.

[murielm99]

10. We are taking back the word 'bitch.'

If you don't like it, who cares?

You can come here and whine about a funny TV skit, but you hide your profile? Whatever.

[DURHAM D]

15. Get this - that poster claims to be female and a person of color.

Right. White male with small laptop more like it.

[MADem]

23. ...

:rofl:

[redstate_democrat]

33. This is actually

the funniest thing I've ever read. Me, a white male!!!! :rofl: My GOD. NO ONE would EVER mistake me for a WHITE MAN. But think as you do.

[murielm99]

38. He/she/it is humor-challenged as well.

Can't anyone see how funny this is? Do you have to support one candidate or the other to GET it?

I might as well watch Springer. Those fools sitting around in their underwear make more sense than some of the posters here. And I bet the mods feel like Steve and those other guys in the black shirts trying to keep the fools from punching each other out.

[MADem]

21. Did the humorectory leave a very large scar? Still in post-op recovery, eh?

:rofl:

They weren't "trying" to own the word. On national TV this evening, they told us all that they DID own it.

They were taking it back, defining it to suit their purposes, and slapping whiners who "don't get it" across the face with their new, improved, definition.

And then repeating it, for those who didn't get it the first time.

I am not arguing with those ladies! Bitch IS the new BLACK! Yes, ma'am, Ms. Fey, whatever you say! I trust her to get things done!

[aquart]

26. "Supposed to be"? IS!!!!

And I find it funny as hell that an Obama fan claims not to be okay with it. Yeah, right.

[aquart]

28. Goodness, how very idiotic.

Missing whole levels of comprehension.

Well, you go ahead and try it.

[MADem]

That's called being coyly disingenuous and deliberately obtuse.

Not a nice quality. Noted, too, I see!

Unless, of course, you have an excuse for it. And the only excuse that could possibly fly would be severe cognitive deficit.

[MADem]

12. That's innuendo. Her use of BITCH is laying it out there, and RECLAIMING the word.

It was a brilliant diatribe.

It's rather like that N word...the fellers can't say it, but the ladies may.

[pnwmom]

18. That's EXACTLY the right analogy . . .

and I know this because I was thinking the exact same thing.


;-)

[BlackVelvet04]

5. No....

not unless it's a black female dog.

it's not cute, it's not funny and it's insulting.

[BenDavid]

8. As anyone heard how hard it was for obama to grow up with all

the racism and all the bigots he had to confront? I would assume that since he is black he would have had some stories to tell along the campaign trail to the many blacks that attend his speeches of all the tough times he had, and how he confronted that hatred and bigotry.....Never have heard him say.....Anyone?

[tabatha]

11. I think he wants to make his primary

about the country not him.

If he opened up that can of worms - you can imagine the responses - playing the race card, sympathy card, making it about blacks instead of all colors. Not a good path.

It must be explained in his books.

[writes3000]

14. Obama is bi-racial. And your obsession with his race is disturbing. n/t

[aquart]

32. LOL! Racism BAD. Sexism, ageism, GOOD.

[Vanje]

53. DELETE

Oh shit! This is GD-P, isnt it.
I dont want to post here.
I'd just as soon kick a wasps nest.

No. No. I'm out.

[pnwmom]

19. Actually, growing up in the very mixed society of Hawaii, he had less

to contend with than he might have in some other parts of the country.

I'm not saying there were no challenges . . . but it's not like he grew up in inner-city Chicago.

[aquart]

27. Or as the only black kid in a white school

like one of my students whose teachers simply ignored his obvious dyslexia and passed him on.

[K Gardner]

20. Ben.. psst, over here.. they were talking about the word "bitch", not Obama's skin color. You're

kind of stuck on that black thing, aren't you? Worried about people hating on him and bigoting him, huh?

I'm sure your concern would .. touch him. Grazie.

[aquart]

29. In Hawaii? In privileged private schools?

Although the Ivy League can be one nasty experience.

[DadOf2LittleAngels]

52. Unlike Hillary

Not everyone needs to make everything about them.

[MADem]

13. I thought it was brilliant. So did the rest of the audience watching with me here.

It was the best POSSIBLE endorsement of Clinton I've seen thus far.

Two ladies in my house were on their feet hollering in approval. They weren't insulted in the slightest. They were...empowered.

[flyarm]

22. i was standing here cheering as well...i just have a simple question..

after living in LA for some years and the sexism..many of my friends started calling men richard and dicks..

so since Obama did a speech after Hillary..was he a richard or a dick???

and you have to emphasize "DICKKKK"..in a really "bitchy " tone!!..

wink wink..

hey..what's fair is fair..

fly

[MADem]

25. Wow, you learn new lingo every day!! Never heard the "Richard" useage, but I can

see where that might come in handy in close quarters. A bit more formal, certainly.

Of course, that term isn't an empowering one, whereas the one Tina employed was redefined to be just that.

[DURHAM D]

16. Did you see the skit? n/t

[aquart]

24. Not real flexible with language? "Yankee" was an insult once.

"Bitch" was once an honorable title of the Goddess. Patriarchy demeaned it. Just as all things female-associated became insults. Except, of course, "virgin."

Sometimes, you take a word back.

[MADem]

36. Hell, down south YANKEE is STILL an insult in some corners!!

It sure as hell is in Boston!!

:rofl:

All hail Ms. Fey! She did a good thing tonight! She made me laugh like hell!

[MADem]

9. It was friken BRILLIANT!!! I enjoyed the hell out of that! nt

[question everything]

17. Same here.

And the "debate" was a great one, too.

[THUNDER HANDS]

30. hmm...new black as in, better than the black guy...or new black as in fashion?

I think I know. (fashion)

either way, it was kind of a lame rant, as most pro-Hillary rants are.

[Colobo]

31. You are right. Pretty lame.

[aquart]

34. Of course, dear. YES I CAN is so much better. Even the second time around.

[MADem]

39. I've never seen so many fresh, angry scars in my life hereabouts!!

A whole ton of people got that humorectomy operation, it seems! And they've got a LOT of post-op pain!

They dish it out like mad, but when they don't even get what they give back to them on this board, but it's handed to them instead via the television by TINA FEY, a comedian, they really show how thin skinned they are--they just can't take it at all.

If their champ goes up against McCain, this bit of lighthearted "woe" is gonna look like a walk in the fucking park! They've not a clue at what is ahead for the Democratic nominee whosoever that may be. This sort of light ribbing is like the first two minutes of pregame warm up before the championship doubleheader!

[Colobo]

41. An unified Democratic Party will beat McCain.

Believe, MADem; together, we will do it.

[MADem]

44. It's looking less and less likely every day. Your crew are burning bridges

with the vicious sexism and the blatant rudeness. The profound immaturity coupled with frankly, ignorance of the candidate's views don't help either.

When an Obama fan has to call my neighbor, a lifelong Democrat, an "old hag" because she asked what Obama's stance is on social security and he couldn't answer, I see prospects of "Unity" and "Kumbayah" after this contest ends slipping away. This lady is a lifelong Democrat, and she was crushed. Obama will never get her vote, because of a stupid fucking punk college kid at a candidate forum. And I see this EVERYWHERE. Don't ask questions!! Drink the KoolAid and be happy!

And if, by a miracle, Clinton prevails, the "youth vote" will do what they ALWAYS do--my way or the highway. They won't fucking show up. Yet you want us geezers to "believe." It's a two way street "my friend."

And now, we have Ralph Nader added to the mix--a toxic brew indeed. McCain is being battered, which gives him the "underdog" cachet to motivate the wingnuts....all I can say is, y'all better not count those chickens. The smugness is offensive, and it just might be premature.

I will be holding my nose and close to vomiting, frankly, if I have to vote for Obama--and it's because I do think that "By his supporters, we shall know him." Some people with less party loyalty than me might just stay home, or vote for "ABO--Anybody But Obama."

So don't ask me to "believe." That is PRECISELY what is wrong with the Obama campaign and Obama supporters. Believe, my ASS. Belief doesn't pay the light bill. Don't worry about facts, join the Lord of the Flies/Peter Pan club, and BELIEVE. Give me a fucking break! People who have been around for awhile know all about that "Believe!" shit.

It's party loyalty that drives my train. Obama is an uninspiring empty suit to me, with a grating INsincereity and INauthenticity that rivals his hero, Ronnie RayGun. The only thing I hope he can do is sign his name properly, to the legislation that Reid and Pelosi send to him, and not shoot off his smug mouth too readily. I pray he gets a sharp VP, like Bill Richardson, and allows Bill to pick the goddamned cabinet. Otherwise, we're fucked, because this guy has been drinking his own bathwater and actually "believes" in his own "Power of Charisma."

IMO.

[DURHAM D]

45. Rock on Bitch!

Perfectly said.

[MADem]

47. Hahahahaha!

I meant every word, too!

[boston bean]

50. Great rant! You have said it perfectly.

check your pms, i just sent you one.

[Vanje]

54. "Check your PMS"!!???!!

Thats REALLY sexist.

[MADem]

59. Bwahahahahahaha!!! I suppose the best way to avoid any confusion there

is to type it out PMs!

That would be quite a trick for me, to do that!

[aquart]

58. And all we need is for Obama to get snippy to McCain

like he is to Hillary. Or maybe he won't treat a man that way.

[Metric System]

42. Get back to us when you win an Emmy.

[aquart]

56. More like, latest subject of extreme discrimination.

Judging by DU, of course.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

35. Fey made several really sexist remarks before that one.

Why is that okay?

[Marie26]

37. Loved it.

It was so empowering. Take the slur back, and throw it in their face.

[gigglechick]

40. BITCH IS THE NEW BLACK BUTTONS!

as an homage to tina... i created these really quick (and they're now for sale on cafepress.)

http://www.cafepress.com/gigglechick


(to those who are offended, you don't have to buy or look at them then)

i thought that the bit Tina Fey did was EXCELLENT though!!!

[aquart]

55. We should have had these months ago.

Oh, well. Wonder if things would have been different without a writers strike.

[helderheid]

57. Welcome to DU - those ROCK!

:hi:

[laststeamtrain]

43. I thought the bit was bitchin'. n/t

[Blue_In_AK]

46. Maybe not politically correct

but I thought SNL was pretty funny last night, and I was :rofl: at Tina. Great skit.

[Trajan]

48. Tina Fey was delightful ....

I have become a 30ROCK fan, and, what a fucking JOY it was to have her hosting SNL again .... The Steve Martin bit was great too .... But 'Weekend Update with Tina Fey' was simply superb ...

While I might find that language offensive if coming from a hater, it was hilarious with Tina and Amy ...

Here it is : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzJjvWA0Vuc

[gulliver]

49. That was both brilliant and courageous.

Fey's commentary was brilliant, and both Fey and Poehler took a stand. Agree with it or not, the heroism and humor in that segment was exceptional.

[Ava]

51. people who are attacking fey here and snl do realize that it is a COMEDY show

and to think that anyone should be immune to comedy is absurd and itself sexist/racist/or whatever is the reason your are basing your opinion that they shouldn't be joked about.

fey's remarks weren't sexist.. they were making fun of sexism and how any woman of power is usually labeled a "bitch."

regardless, if you didn't like the comments and don't like the show then don't watch.. but don't attack members here that do enjoy the show and thought her comments were funny and on point.

[MADem]

60. They're also a bit angered at the truth of her remarks. The best comedy IS rooted in truth. NT