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intaglio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 09:47 AM
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Interesting item on Political Wire regarding Hillary
http://politicalwire.com/archives/2008/02/23/dispatch_from_maryland.html

Kathleen Kennedy Townsend, a supporter of Sen. Hillary Clinton, spoke at St. Mary's college in Maryland last week and offered a very frank assessment of the state of the Clinton campaign. A Political Wire reader emails a summary:

"Townsend said she expects Sen. Barack Obama to win the Democratic presidential nomination and that Clinton is finished...


Is this likely to be true? or is Political Wire a front group or what?
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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 09:49 AM
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1. Political Wire is unbiased

and a good source of accurate news.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 09:50 AM
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2. Political Wire is fair in my long time reading nt
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 09:51 AM
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3. k and r
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intaglio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 09:56 AM
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4. Thanks for the info, I really was not sure about this
Well I hope I don't take too much flack from certain board members
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UALRBSofL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 09:58 AM
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5. I know this is Kennedy's opinion
I just hope her assessment of the campaign is wrong. :)
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 12:59 PM
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10. I think she's right. Look at the numbers. It's EXTREMELY unlikely
that Hillary could win TX, OH & PA by 20% or more. Without doing that, she sinply can't get enough delegates to win.
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GumboYaYa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 10:01 AM
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6. When your core supporters and donors lose faith, it is time to get out.
Hillary's only hope is that she is able to destroy Obama. It is sad to watch her trying to do that.
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MindMatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 12:12 PM
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7. Texas looks like a lost cause for Hillary
Edited on Sun Feb-24-08 12:42 PM by MindMatter
And let's look at that. Why is Texas looking bad for her? Because the only way she could win it is if the DLC rules stayed in effect. Which is to say, Texas remained a write-off state for the general election.

Hillary supporters, please come clean with us. Please give me an honest answer here. How many of you believed that Texas could be a blue state in the general election? That was never in in the cards in the DLC's wildest dreams.

But Barack is PUTTING TEXAS INTO PLAY in November. Not just for the presidential candidate, but for the entire Texas slate.

Can Hillary supporters at least concede that if Obama can turn Texas into a blue state (or at least a state that is in play for us) that is a major thing?

At some point, Hillary and her supporters have to move on from what is best for Hillary personally to what is best for our party and our country.

We have an historic opportunity here. Barack will be the charismatic face in front of this movement, but we need everybody on the team. Al Gore, John Edwards, Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, Dennis Kucinich. These evil fascist bastards are not going to go down easily. We need everybody pulling hard together.
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 01:04 PM
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11. maybe this dragged out one sided fight is not such a bad thing...
:shrug:

as it is picking up more independents and republicans along the way, and bringing back disenchanted democrats. the more states played, the more exposure to obama's message, the more likely more will jump on the train which will be positive for the GE for the dem nom.

Hillary may actually be doing the democratic party a huge new enlistment favor by keeping this going... as long as Obama gets the nod. If she does, this recipe will be ruined as she has not been a positve vehicle in this respect, but one of divisiveness and insincerity.
:shrug:

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MindMatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 05:52 PM
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12. I absolutely agree
She is looking smaller and smaller every day, but overall, this contest is helpful to the Party for the reasons you mentioned.

What is not helpful are the threats to use all sorts of underhanded moves to rig the convention to toss it to Hillary. We have to make sure that doesn't happen by delivering drubbings in every state. She might yet squeak out a victory in OH, but the rest of the states should go Obama, and that will leave no doubt leading to the convention. Once Obama has locked up a substantial majority in the pledged candidates, Edwards, Gore and others will come out for Obama and that will be all she wrote.

Another thing the contest does is delay the onset of the McCain versus Obama period. No need to rush that. It will undoubtedly get nasty, but that will mainly be after Labor Day.
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GumboYaYa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 12:21 PM
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13. The right wing tactics her campaign is employing are not good for any dem.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 12:15 PM
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8. I hate to do this, but...
GOBAMA!!! :bounce:
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intaglio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 12:54 PM
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9. Katz - naughty! we are trying to play nicely
:P
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