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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 11:54 AM
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Cockie Roberts, on This Week, said that Barack Obama is a novelty item and that the young folks that
are voting for him now won't show up in November to vote for him again. Sounds like she was, more or less, making the case that McCain will win. I always thought she swung left, but after today, I don't.

She seemed to be spinning for McCain. Just my perspective.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 11:55 AM
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1. I think you're instincts are right on.
She's a Republican.
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 12:00 PM
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18. No, she isn't
Both of Cokie's parents were Democratic members of Congress. Her father, Hale Boggs, may well have become Speaker of the House had he not died in a plane crash in Alaska in the early 1970s.

Cokie is an Establishment apologist. She comes from a wealthy, connected family that runs in the right circles in both DC and NOLA. Her brother is a hig-powered superlobbyist. Her biases don't sit on a left-right scale, they have to do with insider and outsider.

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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 12:03 PM
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20. I reassert my claim. I am aware of her political genetics and her famous
daddy.

I've also listened to her file reports and shill for several Republican presidents over many years.

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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 12:25 PM
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34. Yours is the only correct post in this thread. She's all about DC establishment.
Edited on Sun Feb-24-08 12:25 PM by Shakespeare
Her political pedigree doesn't mean she's left or right, it means she runs with the Sally Quinns and doesn't go in much for outsiders or upstarts. That's why she sneered at Bill Clinton, too.

People here have no apparent capacity for nuance, and see only in black/white, left/right terms.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 12:45 PM
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46. cokie's background doesn't matter..
she's a watergirl for the goperverts.
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NoodleyAppendage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 11:55 AM
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2. Cokie Roberts is a REPUKE shill. She's blue-blood, old money with NO sense of reality. n/t
J
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stillrockin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 11:55 AM
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3. She is a rightwing shill, total asshat.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 11:56 AM
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4. you thought Cokie Roberts swung left?
Oh my, no...
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 11:58 AM
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11. Have not watched msm in quit a while. That was the first time I saw her in several years.
On second thought, it may be another woman I was thinking of. Her husband recently passed away? Can anyone help me?
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 01:55 PM
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58. Cokie Roberts is a noxious right-wing shill.
She's also the worst political analyst on television, and it's embarrassing to watch her. Has anyone ever been more wrong, more out of touch, than Cokie?

It's a real shame, considering her parents, Lindy and Hale Bogg, were Democratic champions.
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Changenow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 11:56 AM
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5. She absolutely does not
swing left. Her family were Louisiana Democrats, but that's pretty conservative anyway, but she is definitely a neocon now.
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 11:59 AM
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13. self delete
Edited on Sun Feb-24-08 12:09 PM by stellanoir
My question was answered upthread.
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 11:57 AM
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6. You never noticed her anything Clinton hate, either?
:shrug:

She's a Repug.
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bellasgrams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 12:32 PM
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42. I've always heard her knock the dems,but today she did say
that many women across the country felt like everything they had worked for years for were out the window with BO, and said many good things about Hillary. She seemed sencere. She did quote Bobby Jean King.
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 03:21 PM
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61. Many women will seem "sincere" now that the woman is out of the race.
They will all come out of the woodwork soon.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 11:57 AM
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7. Cokie doesn't understand the extent Obama's campaign is into Organizing. They sign people up
and get them involved in multitple fronts in their own communities.
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 11:57 AM
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8. About 15 years ago she was more balanced IMHO but not at all in more recent years.
I got POed at this distortion earlier but unlike you, I misspelled her first name unintentionally.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4741353

:hi:


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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 11:59 AM
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16. IMO, she's largely uninformed as many pundits are. She hasn't taken the time to investigate
Edited on Sun Feb-24-08 12:00 PM by cryingshame
exactly how Obama's campaign is organizing.

She just assumes younger voters are showing up on a whim.
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 12:07 PM
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23. Clueless really
that's why I started that other thread.

I work upon occasion with college kids and I've not seen so much interest in politics for decades.

It gives me dare I say "hope."
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 11:57 AM
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9. Roberts does raise an interesting point regardless of her political leanings. n/t
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 12:16 PM
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32. It is a valid point but made duller by her traditional reflex for
offering the most obvious observation and passing it off as "insight" or "analysis."

Russ Feingold, to name but one, voted for Barack Obama. Feingold is not given to the frivolous, or the momentary, or the ephemeral. Whose judgment, then, is the more prescient?

I think I'll go with Russ.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 12:26 PM
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35. CNN’s Road to the White House has interesting Democratic Exit Poll’s that provide insight into votin
patterns in the primaries. See Road to the White House


IMO the polls suggest BO was aided by the 18-29 age group and African American community.

Whether those groups will be enough to elect BO remains to be seen!
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 12:29 PM
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36. It does remain to be seen, but there are more Democrats on the
voter registration rolls now than there were in October 07 and November 04.

Owed significantly to Barack Obama's campaign.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 12:32 PM
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40. Agree re BO's influence. Are there stats on the demographics for new Dem voters? n/t
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 12:33 PM
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43. They've been referenced in newspaper pieces per state per primary,
but it would take a weekend to round them all up on the web.


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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 01:09 PM
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48. I have not been able to find a summary of changes in voter demographics either. I guess that will
happen after the primaries are over.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 01:10 PM
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49. Howard Dean's people likely are paying attention. Sometime later today
I may wander over to the DNC site and see what's up.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 11:58 AM
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10. you really thought she swung left?
Not me, she has always been a republican IMO-

And she is showing her ageist prejudice, Obama is drawing from a wide spectrum of people, and they will show up- 8yrs of bush will bring many people to the general election.

peace~
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 11:58 AM
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12. she's a RW shill
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 11:59 AM
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14. The media will do whatever it takes to get McCain
Edited on Sun Feb-24-08 11:59 AM by LibDemAlways
into the WH. It's starting already. Some of it is overt, like this, and some is general race-baiting of the type 20/20 was doing Friday night when it reminded viewers that black people are viewed with suspicion by whites.

Cokie is no liberal. She's been a repuke shill for years.
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From The Left Donating Member (670 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 11:59 AM
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15. Cokie Roberts is a Dumb Hag
And she's a Repug.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 12:10 PM
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26. I hate Cokie, but spare us the 'hag' comment. nt
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From The Left Donating Member (670 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 12:14 PM
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31. As I said, Cokie is a Hag
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pop goes the weasel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 01:44 PM
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57. ah, one of those kind of leftists
Reminds me of when Stokely Carmichael said that the position of women in SNCC was "prone."

Says more about you than it does about the person you are talking about.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 12:00 PM
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17. Cokie has always been pretty much a Southern Conservative
Democrat. She more or less cheerleaded for GWB in 2000.

While I do not share her philophical outlook she is pretty
good at predictions . At least she had the courage to say
what many are thinking but do not have the opportunity to
be heard.
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BlueManDude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 12:00 PM
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19. Cokie's a GOPer thru and thru. Has been for years. McCain is her dream candidate.
Edited on Sun Feb-24-08 12:01 PM by BlueManDude
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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 12:05 PM
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21. I'm sure that Cokie thinks text messaging and IMing are novelty items
Political talking heads (and me, I have to admit) thought they wouldn't come out the first time. We were wrong.

People tend to dismiss what they don't understand.
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 12:06 PM
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22. Cokie Roberts is a rethug corporate mil-industrial complex shill.
She has not said anything that a Democrat should pay attention to in at least 20 years.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 12:08 PM
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24. History is on her side here. Let's wait and see. I HATE Cokie. nt
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 12:08 PM
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25. cockie roberts is bitter
because she realizes her day is fading fast. it`s sad that she still thinks she is relevant.
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DesEtoiles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 12:11 PM
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27. How old is she now? 102? A wealthy, inside the beltway pundit for her whole life.
She's no Markos.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 12:29 PM
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37. Goes to Blessed Sacrament with Maureen Dowd, Mark Sheilds, E.J. Dionne, Pat Buchanan. nt
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Guava Jelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 12:12 PM
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28. I hate Kookie Roberts even more than Candy Crowley
she is a complete tool
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 12:12 PM
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29. She is is either pro-Clinton or a Republican.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 12:30 PM
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38. No. She's an ESTABLISHMENT shill. She's always hated the Clintons. nt
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bluerum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 12:13 PM
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30. Swung left!? - please. She is one of the best RW shills/plants that the MSM has.
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 12:21 PM
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33. She doesn't necessarily have to be a Republican
to think McCain will win, maybe that is what she thinks. She just may be right, I work in a Union shop and while our Union bosses may back the Democrat whoever it is, I would bet McCain gets a lot of support. McCain still has a reputation as a maverick Republican to most people, he has always been the MSM's boy and a lot of people have been lead to believe he still is. Myself I would have liked to have a Democrat like John Edwards, but like always we in Ohio are stuck with either Hillary or Obama not much choice in my opinion. The primary is next Tuesday and I still don't know which one to vote for. I will probably vote for Edwards or Kucinich if they are still on the ballot. In the general election I may vote for Nader since he is running or just not vote for a President at all.
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Levgreee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 12:30 PM
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39. People that state this miss an important part in their analysis... the newcomers to PRIMARIES are
Edited on Sun Feb-24-08 12:31 PM by Levgreee
not necessarily newcomers to the GENERAL ELECTION.


Many of these 'new' voters are already somewhat politically active, at least enough that they vote in the GE. They are just new to Primaries, not the GE.

I voted in the GE four years ago, this year I am new to primaries. I am a new Obama vote in the primaries that would have voted in the GE regardless.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 12:32 PM
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41. Swung left? Nope!
Cokie Roberts has been an overt reknucklian for most of the Bush administration and probably most of the Clinton administration before that.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 12:36 PM
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44. I despise her. She's a total DINO.
But she may be right about November. There's going to be a ton of trash thrown at BO by McCain, and that won't help either.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 12:43 PM
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45. Cokie is apparently mourning the loss of Hillary's candidacy...
She's certainly echoing Hillary's criticisms of Democratic voters that don't favor her.

-Cult!
-Not real Democrats!

:cry:
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 01:24 PM
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54. She's always hated the Clintons. She's hung out with Sally Quinn too much. nt
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Beausoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 01:27 PM
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55. You have no idea what you are talking about. Roberts detests Clinton. And if you think it's only
Clinton supporters who are going to bring up those criticisms of Obama, you gotta a lot to learn.

A lot to learn.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 01:59 PM
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59. Did you watch today?
She was speaking about the loss of a viable woman candidate, and what that meant for older women. For her, this seems to go beyond Hillary.
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Mooney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 12:45 PM
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47. She's a dumbass
Her take on politics is about as relevant as Dr. Phil's.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 01:10 PM
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50. She swings Beltway and Obama is an insult to her
which is yet another reason to support him.
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TheZug Donating Member (886 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 01:11 PM
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51. Roberts (and McCain): Damn kids, think they own the place!
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sloppyjoe25s Donating Member (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 01:13 PM
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52. She is a Rabid supporter of Mrs. Clinton
She has barely been able to disguise it.

She was on This Week a few weeks ago screaming about how the NYT Endorsement proved that:

"Hillary is Brilliant"

I like Stephanopolous alot - I think he should realize that Cokie Roberts has been very thin on analysis and very
long on rhetoric lately. She is not helping the ratings of the show one bit.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 01:13 PM
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53. Cookie has been a Hillshill since Day One
She just can't get used to the idea that Obama is kicking ass and taking names....

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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 01:34 PM
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56. Cokie has always been a rightie. nt
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VotesForWomen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 02:14 PM
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60. surprise, surprise. nt
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