So Ralph wants to go after the white supremacist voters --

[pnwmom]

the Ron Paul people.

Well, let him have them, I guess.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/10/15/to-his-dismay-ron-paul-b_n_68575.html

Through no fault of his own, Rep. Ron Paul's anti-globalist, anti-government campaign for the Republican presidential nomination has become a magnet in neo-Nazi networks, pulling in activists and supporters from the fringe white nationalist community where anti-Semitism, anti-black and anti-immigrant views are commonplace.

In some cases, these internet-based activists acknowledge that even though the Paul campaign does not have a racist or anti-Semitic agenda, it can serve as a vehicle to find sympathizers and to recruit new loyalists drawn to the Republican congressman's opposition to international trade agreements, federal police authority and to the income tax.

Such web-based organizations as Stormfront (motto: "White Pride, World Wide"), Vanguard News Network ("No Jews. Just Right.") and the Nationalist Coalition ("working to create the relationships that will lay the foundation for the White community that is necessary to our survival") have become sources of support for Paul's bid for the Republican nomination, and in some cases have set up separate Ron Paul discussion groups.Through no fault of his own, Rep. Ron Paul's anti-globalist, anti-government campaign for the Republican presidential nomination has become a magnet in neo-Nazi networks, pulling in activists and supporters from the fringe white nationalist community where anti-Semitism, anti-black and anti-immigrant views are commonplace.

[asdjrocky]

1. It's official, this is the dumbest post I've ever seen.

What in the hell do you base this on? Do you know anything about Nader?

[Yael]

3. Actually, I took a spin through a few WN sites earlier this afternoon

They are indeed saying that if it is Obama/McCain/Nader -- they will go Nader because he is the only one not owned by the evil Jews.

[pnwmom]

5. Yup. Anything's better

than those evil Jews.

:sarcasm:

[anigbrowl]

8. Sadly, that is how those people think.

Logic, consistency, and common sense are not their strong suits.

[asdjrocky]

7. That's maybe 1% or1% Yael.

Just as I don't hold the behavior of some Obama or Clinton supporters against the candidates, if I did, I'd never be able to support the Dem nominee, and I won't hold a few wingnuts against Nader.

By the way, I start seeing photos of Nader with white supremacist, or I see a racist newsletter that Nader puts out, then we can draw a comparison between him and Ron Paul.

Am I a Nader supporter? Hell no. But this is about the most baseless attack on someones character I've ever seen here. I stand by what I originally said, and add, not only was it a dumb OP, but it was ill-informed beyond the pale.

It's posts like this that drive me away form DU more and more.

[pnwmom]

10. YOU are the one who's ill-informed. Nader wants the votes of Paul supporters.

And he has said so. This type of thing isn't new for Nader. He also said during the 2000 election that he wanted to get Rethug votes.

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Nader_announces_Presidential_bid_on_Meet_0224.html

:: reporter: what ralph nader has always said is he wants to be the voice for the disenfranchised. when he was asked the question right after the bat, are you running for president? he said 24% asked in polls don't like where the country is, 61% don't like where the political parties are handling it. i want to be a voice for these disenfranchised. he wants to get those voters that have been swinging towards ron paul.

[asdjrocky]

12. Ok then, have a nice day.

[pnwmom]

4. He says he wants to attract Ron Paul supporters.

And Ron Paul supporters include large numbers of white supremacists.

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Nader_announces_Presidential_bid_on_Meet_0224.html


:: reporter: what ralph nader has always said is he wants to be the voice for the disenfranchised. when he was asked the question right after the bat, are you running for president? he said 24% asked in polls don't like where the country is, 61% don't like where the political parties are handling it. i want to be a voice for these disenfranchised. he wants to get those voters that have been swinging towards ron paul.

_______________________________________________________________________


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/10/15/to-his-dismay-ron-paul-b_n_68575.html

Through no fault of his own, Rep. Ron Paul's anti-globalist, anti-government campaign for the Republican presidential nomination has become a magnet in neo-Nazi networks, pulling in activists and supporters from the fringe white nationalist community where anti-Semitism, anti-black and anti-immigrant views are commonplace.

In some cases, these internet-based activists acknowledge that even though the Paul campaign does not have a racist or anti-Semitic agenda, it can serve as a vehicle to find sympathizers and to recruit new loyalists drawn to the Republican congressman's opposition to international trade agreements, federal police authority and to the income tax.

Such web-based organizations as Stormfront (motto: "White Pride, World Wide"), Vanguard News Network ("No Jews. Just Right.") and the Nationalist Coalition ("working to create the relationships that will lay the foundation for the White community that is necessary to our survival") have become sources of support for Paul's bid for the Republican nomination, and in some cases have set up separate Ron Paul discussion groups.

[sniffa]

2. Nader, the Lebanese White Supremacist

He's unsafe at any speed.

[pnwmom]

6. He's not a white supremacist, he just wants their votes.

Just like he says he wanted Republican votes in the 2000 election.

[chknltl]

9. ....and perhaps drain some votes from disgruntled progressives.

Which is why some of us have been fighting against the deliberate 'disgruntling' of each other here in the DU. Some of us want to see a Democrat in the White House. I do not put it past the repukes to have determined that they can siphon off a few votes away from us by stirring us up and by exacerbating the anger that we see between Senator Clinton and Senator Obama supporters. It is my hope that any DUers who advocate for nader get a not so gentle reminder that he is NOT a Democrat.

[pnwmom]

11. He is most definitely NOT an ally. He was happy to throw the 2000 election

to Bush, because it gave him a chance to show off his power. He enjoys being able to scare the Democrats more than he cares about doing what will help the country.

[saracat]

13. Nader simply does not like either the Dem candidate s or the Repug. He endorsed Edwards.

He doesn't want a corporatist in the WH and this is a protest.he knows it doesn't matter wither way. He feels we are going to get a corporatist in the WH no matter which way it goes. I probably won't vote for him but I agree.Ralph's point isn't about race and it is disingenuous to imply it is.

[pnwmom]

15. Nader's well aware that white supremacists strongly support Ron Paul's

candidacy, but you don't hear him condemning them. And he has said he'd like Ron Paul voters to vote for him.

I think he deserted his principles years ago in his quest for power.

With regard to Edwards, I thought that was a kind of wishy-washy endorsement, didn't you? He never actually promised not to run if Edwards was the candidate.

[saracat]

17. Well, Obama isn't condemning the "gay conversion" movement

and says he is 'reaching out' and is after those folks because we have to understand a lot of the fundie black community thinks like McCukin and he says he wants their votes. So whats the difference? Just saying.

[pnwmom]

18. No way am I going to defend Obama on that.

You're right. It's a similar thing.

[LisaL]

14. Somehow I get the feeling white supremacists wouldn't vote for

Obama even if Nader was not in the race.
:rofl:

[pnwmom]

16. Yup. And Nader is welcome to them. b/t