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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 04:48 PM
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DesMoines Register Poll: Obama whips McCain; Hillary doesn't - (esp. indies and women)
Whether Iowa turns red or blue in the fall presidential election may have a lot to do with which Democrat is on the ballot against Republican John McCain, according to a new Iowa Poll by The Des Moines Register.

-snip

Obama, an Illinois senator and his party's frontrunner, was the choice of 53 percent of Iowans who plan to vote in November. McCain, an Arizona senator, was the choice of 36 percent of Iowans in an Obama-McCain contest.

However, if the choice voters have in November is McCain vs. Clinton, the new poll shows 49 percent of Iowans would choose McCain, compared with 40 percent who would choose Clinton.

-snip

Obama, who benefited in the caucuses from a flood of participation from independents, received support from 52 percent of voters in the new poll who described themselves as independent, compared to 29 percent for McCain.

Meanwhile, McCain received support from 53 percent of independent voters against Clinton, who was the choice of 28 percent of independents.

-snip

Other good news in the poll for Obama includes a decided advantage among female voters, who preferred him over McCain by a margin of more than 20 percentage points.

-snip

Perhaps most notably, McCain leads Clinton among women, 46 percent to 39 percent.


http://www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080224/NEWS09/802240333

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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 04:49 PM
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1. Which states border Iowa?
Arkansas? New York?
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 04:52 PM
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2. Ah yes, another state that "doesn't count."
Never mind the fact that this equation has been repeated over and over again in every state you can name, such as Oregon, Colorado, Virginia...

I greatly look forward to when Clinton drops out.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 05:59 PM
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10. Iowa doesn't count?
Or is it foolish to ignore home court advantage when looking at polls? Hnmf posted some polls that showed real Obama strength. Him leading in Iowa is like Hillary doing well in New Jersey.

Ther ethug machine has cranked up against Obama. Let's see how the polls look in a month...Let's "hope" Obama is immune to what caused" "new" candidates of "change" Bush 00' and Kerry to suffer an 11 point swing from this point to November...
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 04:55 PM
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3. I thought she was from Illinois too?
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pstans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 05:36 PM
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5. Polls shows Obama winning in Republican Western Iowa
far away from Illinois.
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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 05:38 PM
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6. Iowa is a very important state in the general election
To dismiss its importance is not smart.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 05:42 PM
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8. Did you say this when HRC won NJ?
as I recall when Obama supporters were saying that Obama going over 40% in NJ was kind of a moral victory for him in HRC's backyard, a lot of HRC supporters discarded that and said it just proves that Obama can't win in the big blue states. Survey USA also has Obama winning Hillary's homestate by more than 20-points over McCain while HRC wins NY over McCain by only 11-points. You also shouldn't discard the fact that Obama is winning Iowa, according to this poll, by 16-points while HRC is losing by 9. That is a significant margin and HRC so far hasn't shown she can win in the Midwest in a competitive primary or caucus.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 05:56 PM
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9. Yes
I also said before Super Tuesday that if she lost NJ it would be a huge blow to her campaign.

My annoyance comes at the msm never mentioning Obama's home court advantage in Iowa. They sure did love to mention South Carolina bordering North Carolina in 2004 and 2008, though...
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pstans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 05:13 PM
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4. Iowa Dems had a big year in 2006
Iowa Democrats picked up 2 seats in the US House, took over the Iowa House, widen their margin in the Iowa Senate, and held on to the Governor seat. It is the first time since the 60's that Democrats control the Governor, Senate, and House in Iowa.

With Obama on the ticket, even more gains could be made.
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 05:42 PM
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7. This is interesting in light of the Register endorsing Clinton earlier before the caucuses...

Now I was the first to complain about their editorial staff's reasons for changing their endorsement of Edwards in last election to Hillary this time. Something along the lines that we don't think he will work well with the corporate sector this time around and therefore we can't support him, which pretty much blatantly exposed them as corporatist leaning. It was obvious that at the time they felt that Hillary was going to carry their torch for them then.

Don't think that they'd "push" Obama this time, though at this point, Obama doesn't look that much less pro-corporate than Hillary does.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 07:02 PM
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11. They're not pushing Obama
They have a very independent and reliable pollster who is not editorially involved. They came out with a poll showing Obama winning Iowa a few days before the caucus and after they had endorsed Hillary.
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