Shame on you, Hillary Clinton. It's time you ran a campaign that didn't insult another Democrat.

[NJSecularist]

Shame on you, Hillary.

Quit using "tactics that are right out of Karl Rove’s playbook".

"I am honored...honored...to be on this stage with Barack Obama" and now, 5 days later, you are mocking him.

"It is time you ran a campaign consistent with your messages in public."

[yourguide]

1. RIGHT ON!

[jlake]

2. Get Real.

[yourguide]

24. ROFL

Yup, "get real" - no way will she cut this crap out. Thanks for making our point.

[jlake]

26. Thanks for your commie style images of Obama. Those 'il play real well with

the average American.

[yourguide]

30. ROFL

Hey genius...I love you HRC supporters, you guys have called me a republican, a right winger, and you are the second person to call me a commie over this image.

The ARTIST is named Shepherd Fairey, you can see a great story about this poster on AdAge, it's also been written about in the NY Times.

http://adage.com/article?article_id=125316

[jlake]

31. I didn't say you were a commie, I said those images are communist propaganda style.

[yourguide]

38. OK, well maybe you could try getting out to an art opening or

two and broaden your horizon, rather than refer to a rather well known artists work as commie art.

By the way, the US hasn't been afraid of the big bad commies since the 80s.

[jlake]

42. Sigh.... you keep putting words into my mouth.

They are very much in the style of communist propaganda.
Whether anyone fears that or not is not the issue.

[yourguide]

44. you're the one talking about how well that will go over.

again, this nation hasnt been afraid of the commies since the 80s.

In fact the Obama campaign and the artist got such overwhelmingly positive response for this commie art that they are commissioning the artist to do another that will be unveiled this week.

[Skidmore]

32. "Commie"???

Wow. We know where you come from now.

[jlake]

33. Yea, reality.

[Forkboy]

37. Jlake is afraid they're going to steal our precious bodily fluids.

[Swamp Rat]

49. LOLOL!!!! POE POE POE POE POE POE POE POE POE POE POE POE

:rofl:

[dailykoff]

36. "Obama is a commie!" I predicted it yesterday!

right here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4727843&mesg_id=4727843

:woohoo:

[jlake]

40. No one said Obama was a commie. He is a RW shill. The images *are* Communist Propaganda in style.

[dailykoff]

46. A commie AND a puke!

And a gangbanging misogynist crack dealing cult leader, all while flattening Little Miss Sunshine in the last eleven primaries.

Now that's talent!

:woohoo:

[Forkboy]

52. He can multitask.

:D

[yourguide]

47. This guy is another one of HRCs advisers

trying to "float" the idea of Obama being a commie to see how it will play, just like that whole going after pledged delegates business...

[maddiejoan]

3. Maybe Obama

should have stopped sending out mailers with lies that had been debunked.

[tabatha]

8. Hillary's have been debunked.

Obama's have not.

Get yeeeeer facts straight.

[maddiejoan]

16. Obama's were debunked

Get your facts straight.

[Windy]

12. Check your facts. HIllary has been sending out false mailers since Iowa and NH!

Don't be so blind.

[maddiejoan]

19. really?

I know she sent them out at that time --is she really STILL sending them out?

Maybe you should get your facts straight.

and unlike Obama's --her's aren't factually incorrect.

Question for ya --Did Obama vote to EXPAND NAFTA?

[Windy]

48. A du'er from ohio was kind enough to scan and post one that she recieved yesterday.

And you admit she did send them out? And gee, those mailers regarding his position on abortions rights...that was factually accurate right?

Her ya go Maddie...about nafta

http://www.counterpunch.org/roberts02232008.html

More: http://www.pww.org/article/view/12560/

"In a telephone conference with reporters, Hoffa said that the deciding factors in the Teamster endorsement of Obama over Clinton were Obama’s electability and his promise to renegotiate NAFTA. The union’s board voted unanimously to endorse the Senator, he said. Hoffa noted that former President Bill Clinton had successfully pushed for NAFTA approval by Congress during his tenure in office despite fierce opposition from organized labor.

Hoffa elaborated on this aspect of his talk with Obama. He told reporters that he was satisfied that Obama will, if elected, call the President of Mexico and the Canadian prime minister and tell them he wants to re-negotiate the pact because it has caused loss of three million jobs in the U.S.

Hoffa said, “Obama is the first candidate since Ralph Nader (in 2000) to say it (NAFTA) is not fair to U.S. workers.”

He also said polling done by his union showed that Obama’s positions on NAFTA, health care and other issues “resonate with our members.”

[maddiejoan]

50. How come Obama voted to Expand NAFTA?

The fact that Obama was the first Democratic presidential candidate to announce his support for the Peru NAFTA expansion two months ago makes his recent attacks on Clinton regarding NAFTA bizarre.

http://www.commondreams.org/news2007/1204-20.htm

[polichick]

4. How can she not know how crazy this all looks??

I feel like booking some spa time for her!

[NJSecularist]

6. She is basically contradicting herself by the minute

It's sad to see.

[Oleladylib]

5. hear tell...that if it were a man doing that ..it would be perfectly fine...admired as a smart,

strong man of leadership..but because it's a female...she's a bitch...Rotten double standard...oh by the way the flyer didn't come out until after the debate...she has not only a RIGHT to defend herself but a RESPONSIBILITY.

[Divernan]

7. Can't picture a man playing the Church Lady "shame on you" card.

Before her outburst, I couldn't picture a woman/candidate doing it either.

She could have expressed outrage and disputed the validity of the statements in the brochures - many politicians stage anger, just like trial lawyers do - but her timing and delivery were really inappropriate.

[XemaSab]

58. Fool me once, shame on you

Fool me twice, can't get fooled again. :patriot:

[NJSecularist]

9. Oh shut up

I never said such things. Stop putting words in my mouth.

I am now being accused of being sexist... typical.

[Oleladylib]

13. Not shutting up...keep it up!

[gravity]

10. All candidates insult each other during campaigns.

Shocking...

[NJSecularist]

11. Apparently you didn't hear Hillary's speech yesterday.

[TexasObserver]

14. We are witnessing the death throes of a DINOsaur.

The stink of desperation permeates the air.

[bigtree]

15. man, she has really gotten under your skin. Shouldn't you be promoting your inevitable candidate

. . . instead of looking over your shoulder and sniping? I'm beginning to see why the Obama camp is so obsessed with wanting the race to end with out the upcoming states weighing in. Buyers remorse, anyone?

[NJSecularist]

17. No, Obama has gotten under her skin

And she can't help herself. She's acting like a lunatic now.

[bigtree]

heh heh

you're practically in hives.

[Unbowed]

45. She got under my skin too, for a number of reasons.

I had previously been happy to support either candidate in the general election. This negativity from Hillary Clinton is going to make me less cheerful about that prospect should she win the nomination. I still won't vote for McAsshole, but I won't be proud of my vote for HRC, not anymore.

She's just destroyed any hope of seeing an Obama/Clinton or a Clinton/Obama ticket. Neither would be my first choice, but the thought (however impractical) was one of unity that made a lot of Democrats smile. The attacks have put an end to a good measure of optimism and happy unity.

The implied insult to voters who have either chosen Obama or who have attended his huge rallies (the ones she holds in such disdain). That's disrespectful and no way to promote a candidacy.

I really dislike poor sportsmanship. In a nutshell, I don't see these recent tactics to being tantamount to running a tough campaign. It certainly isn't a tight campaign. And it is starting to reek of poor sportsmanship. This campaign season, we've even seen gracious concession speeches from Republicans but not from from HRC. This is very disheartening for a Democrat. Very. Why can't HRC give a concession as graciously as did Obama after she won New Hampshire?

Destroying the respect I had for Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton. This is very sad for me because I had admired both of them that I don't think I'll ever get the admiration back again. Personally, I feel as though I've lost something.

But most of all:

The blurring of the lines between Democrats and Republicans is the most disturbing of all. Attacking Democrats in this way makes it look like we are no better than the Republicans. This stink will not wash off for the GE, no matter who is the nominee. We all pay the price for her attack strategy. That REALLY GETS UNDER MY SKIN.

[bigtree]

54. the 'negativity' is just hype from the Obama campaign. He's been 'negative' as well.

I can't believe the hand-wringing. It shows that Obama's camp isn't as secure as they pretend.

[Unbowed]

55. There really isn't any hand-wringing that I've observed.

Obama addressed her comments with a chuckle. He seemed to brush off the attacks quite well on his own.

But I personally am hurt by some of the things that Hillary Clinton has said. It's not as much that she's attacking Obama (he's a big boy and can take it) but that she is hurting a lot of Democrats who want this to be about change. The change we want is a 180 from Bush.

I've read all the words from both campaigns and I am able to sort out who is being the most Rovian of the two campaigns. I think Obama is going to win and feel no compunction to bring down Hillary Clinton. But I really dislike the things she's been saying lately.

It's Hillary's own words that bother me as a Democrat. They hurt. I've never voted for anyone who wasn't a Democrat. I won't vote for a dog catcher if she or he isn't a Democrat. That's a fact. That's not going to change. But Hillary has hurt the respect I had for her. When this thing started, I really believed we had nothing but a win-win situation no matter who the nominee. I LOVED and was PROUD of each and every single Democrat out there running for President of the United States. Hillary has soured that. Not her supporters. Not the negativity I have heard here from either camp.

I am disappointed in Hillary Clinton because of her own words. And I take no pleasure in saying that. Quite the opposite.

[bigtree]

56. hurt?

brother.

[Unbowed]

60. Yes. You read that correctly.

As a leader in the Democratic Party, her words and actions reflect on us all.

And her words didn't demean Barack Obama as much as they demeaned his supporters. We are Democrats too. Just because we aren't voting for Hillary Clinton, it does not mean we need to GET REAL. And the implication that supporting a candidate by attending HUGE RALLIES is somehow wrong. This is a democracy. We gather for whichever candidate we support. Last time I checked, we still had the right to do that.

[dailykoff]

18. Why didn't she go balistic on McCain's bimbo eruption?

She's missing the forest for the trees and that's putting it politely.

[Forkboy]

39. He's a friend.

[ORDem]

20. Now be careful! Or you'll get slammed for rules violations by

the Hillbots. Dontcha know we can't present any negative evidence wrt Hillary? What were you thinking?
:sarcasm:
:dem:

[BlackVelvet04]

21. how did she mock him?

Did she mention him? Did she try to imitate his voice? Has he said any of the things she said she COULD say?

[mtnsnake]

22. Dammit, Hillary, you should've been mocking Obama all along. That fucking ROCKED!

Keep up the good work, girl! Mock the hell out of him this week!

[IndianaGreen]

25. Mocking an African American man

Boy, the Clintons will resort to the same tactics that Jesse Helms used to get himself reelected.

[Forkboy]

41. Seriously, you think this stuff helps her with anyone but those who are already for her?

[NJSecularist]

53. It doesn't.

[MonkeyFunk]

23. oh good lord, grow up

they're both running for the same job - this is how it works.

You think calling the Clintons racist wasn't attacking dems?

[NJSecularist]

28. Tell Hillary to grow up after her outburst yesterday

Now that Hillary does the same things, it's just fine, right?

[MonkeyFunk]

61. Everybody grow up

candidates going after each other isn't unexpected, it's not out of bounds, and anybody who gets the vapors because of it shouldn't follow politics - they're too sensitive.

And Clinton complaining about Barack lying about her is much better than calling the Clintons racist.

[pbca]

27. We'll see how long she lasts with

her new message of "Abandon All Hope, Resistance is Futile"

[Thrill]

29. She is the Anti-Hope candidate

[Skidmore]

35. Hopeless Hillary.

[mculator]

34. NJ

That's our state, punk!! haha jk

HILLARY! GET EM!

[Madam Mossfern]

64. That's my state too!

And there are more and more supporting Obama. As a matter of fact Obama won in my county.

[OzarkDem]

43. Go Hillary!

Someone needs to call Obama out on his lies and obfuscation.

[Alexander]

51. Error: You've already recommended that thread.

[cbayer]

57. Shame on you, Obama supporters.

It's time you ran a campaign that didn't insult other democrats.

[XemaSab]

59. She looks really two-faced

and I can't stand two-faced people. x(

[Muzza]

62. Shame on Barack Obama Indeed!

She has every right in the world to take on Barack Obama considering the shamelessness and unethical nature in which he has conducted his campaign. He is singled-handedly set about seducing and corrupting various groups in society to secure their votes. Oh how you will be all screaming when the country crashes around you if this preaching salesman gets into power! Shame on Barack Obama I say. How dare he criticize ANY democratic candidate whose principle aim is to ensure every single person in this country has access to health care. How dare he peddle lies about her health care policy and put fear into people. How dare he use the same woeful images used by the GOP in the 1990s to defeat Clinton's earlier attempt at healthcare reform. And how dare the Almight One claim to be above dirty politics when he is infact the King of it! The ultimate wolf in sheep's clothing!

SHAME ON BARACK OBAMA

[Muzza]

63. Obama's Weakness, Clinton's Courage

Obama and his supporters are so spineless, so precious. Get some courage - politics is a rough game. Why are you all so shocked when these exchanges take place? Ah, that's right, because the Almighty One led you to believe it didn't need to be this way, that he would make it all better. Cmon, WAKE UP! Politics is about struggles for power and in this context, criticism and attack is the nature of the game. BO has done a tremendous dis-service to millions of people by conning them into thinking that he alone could change the battle rules. Sorry, it ain't gonna happen!

Full credit to Clinton for momentarily stopping this man's FREE RIDE. Has there ever been a presidential candidate who has had it SO EASY!???? No sound critique from the mainstream media, and no critique from the groups of people Obama has seduced. It's seriously troubling. And then whenever anyone dares criticize this man, and ask the questions which NEED to be asked, both he and his blind supporters scream with hysteria! GROW UP! WAKE UP! This is politics! This is not playgroup! Let's make this a level playing field and see who wins. Take away SEXISM against Clinton and FREE RIDES for Obama and this competition would be OVER!

[Madam Mossfern]

65. I sincerely hope your tune is the same

if Obama goes at her full throttle.

[apocalypsehow]

66. K & R.

:kick:

[theHandpuppet]

67. And I just wish Barack Obama didn't run a campaign...

... that insults my intelligence.

[RememberWellstone]

68. Whaaaaaaaaaaaambulance!!

Someody needs to tell about campaigning...she tells the truth, handle it.

[Scurrilous]

69. K & R

:thumbsup: