If the Democrats adopted a Marxist platform, would that satisfy Nader?

[ButterflyBlood]

Frankly, no it wouldn't.

The Democrats could deliberately tailor their platform to be 99% similar to what Nader promotes, and he'd still run and whine in order to inflate his giant ego.

[joeybee12]

1. Ralph Nadar is a man who will never be satisified...a good thing to be

when you're a consumer advocate...but he's taken it to the extreme in that it now always has to be about him, and not the cause.

[ORDem]

2. Agreed. Nicely said. The man is a total egotist. n/t

[joeybee12]

4. Thanks!

:hi:

[robcon]

3. The only thing that would satisfy him is to be in power.

He's like Harold Stassen - he's taken leave of his senses, and unaware of what a fool he is.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

5. He's not a Marxist. He got very rich investing int he corporations he claims to dislike. nt

[Danger Mouse]

6. Nope. It's all about HIM, all the time.

[More Than A Feeling]

7. This is the second time I've seen a communist reference made to Nader

That's two sock puppets that Joe McCarthy's ghost has.

Smearing left-wingers with communist accusations is what got the reactionary radical conservatives started again after World War II.

Are those seriously the steps you want to walk in? BTW, I don't care how much you hate Nader.

[ButterflyBlood]

8. How is it calling Nader a communist?

It's doing the exact opposite. It's saying that communism WOULDN'T please Nader.

[More Than A Feeling]

9. The implication is not that he wouldn't be pleased because he isn't a communist

The implication is that he's even purer in his leftism than Communism.

[ButterflyBlood]

10. No, it's that he isn't a leftist at all

But rather a giant egomaniac.

[More Than A Feeling]

11. Ok, I can see that interpretation.

Sorry about calling you a sock-puppet of Joe McCarthy's ghost.:blush:

[monomach]

12. The only way to satisfy Nader is to nominate Nader. n/t.

[ButterflyBlood]

14. So why doesn't Nader run?

Seems to me Nader would be better off running for the Democratic nomination then not doing so and then throwing a fit when the cnadidate we nominate doesn't earn his seal of approval.

[New Dawn]

13. No, because Nader is not a Marxist

When has he ever called for the working class to have a monopoly on political power? When has he called for nationalization of the means of production and distribution?

His whole life has been about regulating capitalism, not ending it.

Examples of US communist presidential candidates in the past were: William Z. Foster, Earl Browder, Gus Hall, etc.

[Kitty Herder]

20. I was gonna say that. Darn you for stealin' my thoughts.

Where did the original poster get this notion that Nader is a Marxist? Because he believes in regulating corporations? Ummm... That's not quite Marxism. Study up, folks.

[ButterflyBlood]

22. The point is there is nothing far left enough to satisfy Nader

Unless the Democrats adopted a platform of making Nader the Supreme Dictator of the Country.

[Kitty Herder]

24. I think you harbor serious misperception regarding Mr. Nader. nt

[AZBlue]

15. Nader's only in it for himself

He just wants publicity and then more publicity.

[depakid]

16. I doubt Nader would have run if Edwards were the nominee

He simply has problems with right wing enablers and corporatists, regardless of what party that they're in.

[ButterflyBlood]

17. LOL! Then take a look at his donor list

Hmmmm, yep the man sure is opposed to right wingers and corporatists...

[depakid]

26. Take a look at Obama's list!

POT.KETTLE.BLACK

Except that Nader would never have criticized the Alito filibuster (rather than leading it)- AND he would never have voted to take away Americans rights to hold corporations accountable for their abuses in federal court.

See, e.g. http://www.thetortellini.com/2006/12/obamas_anticons.html

Bottom line is that both the remaining candidates pander to and enable the far right- and sometimes cross over and vote with them too.

That's created a something of a vaccuum- which someone like Nader will fill, every time. Poly Sci 101.

[Kitty Herder]

18. Depakid, Yes. That's what I was going to say. nt

[Hippo_Tron]

19. No, he'd say the Democrats are too left wing and we need a centrist party

Nader did a lot of great things in the 1970's because he did them through activism and not electoral politics. Presidential politics is a game where people who more or less support the status quo will always win.

[MrSlayer]

21. Satisfaction is the death of desire.

As some wise man once said.

[Alexander]

23. No. His ego is too big. Thankfully Mr. 0.38% will get even fewer votes this time.

[Drunken Irishman]

25. The only way Nader would be satisified is if they changed the name of the party...

To the Naderatic Party and ran him as President every 4 years, with his clone as Vice President.

[Lilith Velkor]

27. If the Democrats did one fucking thing they were elected to do

Nader would not even remotely be an issue.

But by all means, go on with your strawMarxist argument. :eyes:

[Solon]

28. Does anyone else find the OP to be extraordinarily stupid?

Nader is an opportunist, however, if you were to try to peg his positions, he'd be about slightly left of center, so if the Democrats adopted a Marxist platform, then Nader wouldn't be happy because the Dems would be too far to the left. The fact is that Nader isn't that much of a leftist, outside of his opportunism, he's more or less relatively close to the center, from the left side, rather than right side of the spectrum, unlike the Democratic party, which is a center-right party.

Not only that, but I do find the insinuation that Nader is either a Marxist or leftist laughable, as laughable as people claiming the Democratic party is the party of liberals.