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Jack Bone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 08:21 PM
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Poll question: Will Sen. Clinton admit IWR vote was a mistake....
tonight @ the MSNBC Ohio Debate? It could serve her well is she did..whaddaya think?
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 08:21 PM
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1. doesn't matter
it is indefensible
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 08:23 PM
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2. If she does it now, it will ring hollow and as opportunistic as her original vote was. nt
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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 08:25 PM
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6. you read my mind.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 08:23 PM
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3. If she does and then it makes no difference....
That would be worse than the indignity of never having apologized earlier. This is a tough decision for her.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 08:25 PM
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4. Too late now.
She's had ample opportunity and has passed on it each and every time. If she does it now it'll just look like more pandering.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 08:25 PM
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5. She never did. She likely never will. n/t
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 08:26 PM
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7. Ego won't allow it
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 08:27 PM
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8. Are you convinced she actually thinks it was the wrong decision? n/t
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JBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 08:30 PM
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9. Will bet my life savings she does not.
She held off so long, it would be political suicide for her to admit it now.
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suston96 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 08:31 PM
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10. Why should she? It wasn't a mistake....
The entire country believed Bush about the WMDs. The entire country trusted that its elected leaders would never plunge us into a war based on phony intelligence.

This misdirected IWR rancor against Hillary based on petty juvenile internecine partisanship gives Bush and his henchmen a free pass for their treachery.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 08:33 PM
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12. Bullshit..
... bullshit and more bullshit. Nobody paying any attention believed that, if you did well sorry to hear it.

HRC is a Democratic neocon, and that is why she is losing. Too bad.

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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 08:35 PM
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14. "The entire country believed Bush about the WMDs"
No they didn't.

"The entire country trusted that its elected leaders would never plunge us into a war based on phony intelligence."

Except for all the people who knew it was a bunch of bullshit. Millions of people from all walks of life inside and outside Washington knew the whole thing was transparent crap. The funny thing about transparent crap is that it is transparent crap.

"This misdirected IWR rancor against Hillary based on petty juvenile internecine partisanship" - actually this is a huge and substantial issue. Turbans and plagiarism and cults and other idiocy from both sides are petty juvenile internecine partisan issues. This particular issue is one that has cost over 1,000,000 Iraqis their lives.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 08:36 PM
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15. You really believe that?
Oh, you do? That's so cute.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 08:36 PM
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16. Huh.
So are you admitting that you use to support this?

Do you still?
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 08:37 PM
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17. I did not believe Saddam Hussein had
WMDs.

See, back in 1990 I believed Bush's daddy when he said the "Republican Guard" was a powerful army to be feared. My brother was being sent to Iraq and I feared he might be killed over there. Later I found that Bush I had lied only to encourage war fever. By the way, while I believed Bush I about the power of the Republican Guard, I still opposed "operation desert storm" and protested against it.

No, the "entire" country did not believe Hussein had WMD's nor did the "entire" country trust its elected leaders.

Two to three million people across the US knew Bush was lying when they protested the pending war in February 2003.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 08:39 PM
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22. So... Were You Hiding Under The Bed, Or In The Closet ???
And exactly what lines from the U.S. Constitution did you strike???

:wtf:
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 08:47 PM
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25. You forgot to add this to your reply...
:sarcasm:
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:17 PM
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26. !!!
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 08:32 PM
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11. Heads here would explode.
How could it have been a mistake when we have been repeatedly assured that it was not an authorization for war?
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 08:34 PM
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13. obama votes to support and fund the murder of iraqis. whatta gem nt
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 08:37 PM
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18. No, because she doesn't see it as one. She doesn't mind the war, just how it's been run.
:shrug:
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 08:37 PM
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19. Of course she won't
If she does she'll lose the primary.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 08:38 PM
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20. It would look crass, calculated and more than a little desperate to do it now.
No way it happens
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 08:38 PM
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21. Why should she? Her vote wasn't any more a mistake than Kerry's or Edwards' was
Admitting they made a mistake, only after the polls told them that it was politically safe for them to do so, won't bring back the lives of those soldiers who lost them in Iraq.

It wasn't any mistake. Each and every one of them who voted for the IWR knew what they were doing, and that includes Hillary, Kerry, Edwards, Biden,
Dodd, and right down the line. They're all over 18.

It's the same for the people who vote to fund the war, like Obama and Hillary. Sometime in the future, people will probably be asking Hillary and Obama to admit they made a mistake in funding the war to continue it. The time for them to use their heads is when they vote, not after the damage is done.

Obama is the biggest hypocrite of all of them for continously making claims that he's the true anti-war candidate of the bunch, when all he does is vote to enable the war everytime a funding vote comes to the Senate.

Dennis Kucincih is the only one who will never have to feel like he owes anyone an apology.


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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 08:45 PM
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23. She doesn't fucking need to. n/t
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 08:46 PM
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24. has she ever said Kyl-Lieberman vote was a mistake? nt
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