hiaasenrocks
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Tue Feb-26-08 11:19 PM
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I honestly don't know how anyone can make up their mind between these two candidates. |
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I think it's clear that Obama is better at the debating game. I think it's clear that Obama is a better speaker and more of a motivator. Both of those things are important in a candidate going into the fall, and they're both important in a president.
I think it's clear that Clinton has more knowledge on the major issues. I think it's clear that Clinton has knowledge on a wider array of issues. Those things are important in a candidate, and in a president.
If I had to vote tomorrow, I'd have a really hard time making up my mind. Would I lean toward the candidate who seems to have more potential to get things done, even though he may not possess the depth of knowledge required to do them right? Or would I lean toward the candidate who seems to know more about the issues and the process, but may not possess the ability to get things done?
What makes people so strident about either of these candidates? :shrug:
Just some late night thoughts from a state that has already voted. Oh well.
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Tue Feb-26-08 11:21 PM
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Tue Feb-26-08 11:23 PM
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2. No, far from it, as we all are. |
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I'm just saying that each of them lacks something that the other possesses and will NEED in the general election and in the White House.
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Tue Feb-26-08 11:27 PM
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3. The only time I've agreed with you. |
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Hmmm.
But, must :toast:
Damn my better angels.
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Wed Feb-27-08 06:15 AM
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10. I have had this thought from the beginning |
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A Clinton/Obama ticket would have been perfect. He has the spark that she needs for campaigning. He could have 8 years to gain some foreign policy experience.
People pushed Obama too early imo...because of their hatred for Hillary (which I think is RW/MSM) for the most part. There are some die hard anti war/anti establishment people who have convinced themselves that somehow Obama has a better stance on the war...but mostly people have bought the MSM message about the Clintons.
Now it is too late...Obama will most likely win this thing. We will see what happens in the GE...I want a democrat to win, but I am nervous. If he has a major screw up due to inexperience, our party will be set back for years.
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Tue Feb-26-08 11:31 PM
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It made my life much easier voting my conscience in the primary. What kind of choice is 6 of one and half dozen of another? They're both ok, just not left enough.
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Tue Feb-26-08 11:33 PM
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I like Obama better, but sometimes I wish we didn't have to choose. I already voted for Obama and it was the proudest vote I have ever taken, but I would be excited about Clinton as the nominee too.
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Tue Feb-26-08 11:34 PM
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6. As an Edwards supporter, |
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you are so right. I think these are 2 great candidates. It took me forever to make up my mind which one to throw my support behind. I have my new pick now, but I refuse to criticize the other. Either one would do the Dems proud and have my eager support.
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Tue Feb-26-08 11:35 PM
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7. The question of knowledge is |
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an important one. I believe both candidates are exceptionally knowledgeable, but my decision to support Obama was based on leadership ability. No one individual will know everything, but a good leader will chose more knowledgeable advisors and listen to them. I think Clinton does very well talking policy, but, in my opinion, her leadership abilities leave much to be desired, as is partially evidenced by her preference of loyalty over experience & competence with regards to the management of her campaign.
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Tue Feb-26-08 11:37 PM
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8. Here in Mississippi we vote March 11th....the last state before Pennsylvania in late April |
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I've haven't decided yet but by then it probably won't matter :shrug:
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Wed Feb-27-08 05:30 AM
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9. It's easy. Hillary is unelectable. If we want a dem in the oval office Obama is the only choice. nt |
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Wed Feb-27-08 06:33 AM
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11. It is actually the exact opposite.... |
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Obama is unelectable...the public opinion engineers... are laughing, at how they once again tricked the public. If Obama wins, the media will turn all the numbers around, quickly. In a time of war; someone running for president with a middle name of Hussein, etc.
Barack Hussein Obama, Jr.
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Wed Feb-27-08 07:18 AM
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12. What makes people so strident about either of these candidates? |
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You've asked the $64 question Hiaasenrocks, I just don't get the degree of nastiness and stridency myself.
Early on, I thought that this country needed an experienced President who could clean up the mess that Bush has made and put us back on the right track. I also did not want to vote for anyone who had voted for the Iraq war. Since Al Gore chose not to run, the natural choice for me was Bill Richardson. Once he dropped out the choice was pretty easy--despite my concerns about Obama's experience. I don't see Clinton's experience as being all that much greater than Obama's. The way Obama has run his campaign has reassured me as to his executive abilities. The way Clinton has run hers has frankly, raised questions about hers.
Both are intelligent, well intentioned people who would surround themselves with people of the highest caliber. Either would do a better job as president than the fool we have now. Both would advance better policies and ideas than John McCain.
Why the vitriol? Maybe it's the history making aspect of both these candidates. Maybe it's racism and sexism lieing below the surface, never explicitly mentioned but always lurking like a shark. My hope is that once this is settled--hopefully by the voters not by any superdelegate shenanigans or party hacks overriding the public opinion, that the winner will be gracious enough to reach out to the loser and the loser will have the wisdom to do what Howard Dean did in 2004 and throw his/her support four square behind the winner.
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Wed Feb-27-08 08:18 AM
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13. Nice Post....I can't vote until May...haven't decided between them. |
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