Obama Blows his 'Sister Soujah' Moment -- Huffington Post

[Demagitator]

February 27, 2008

Because it was on Louis Farrakhan that the debate shifted and you really saw the differences in these candidates. As much as it's popular to beat up on Bill Clinton these days, at least he knew a moment when a marker is laid down. Last night, Barack Obama missed his Sister Souljah moment by a mile.

As a Scots-Irish broad, I saw Obama's tepid response to Farrakhan, and was appalled. Emails from Jewish friends confirmed that I wasn't alone. That Obama had to be led to this reality is proof of his ruffle no feathers at any cost mentality.

OBAMA: Tim, I have to say I don't see a difference between denouncing and rejecting. There's no formal offer of help from Minister Farrakhan that would involve me rejecting it. But if the word "reject" Senator Clinton feels is stronger than the word "denounce," then I'm happy to concede the point, and I would reject and denounce.

It has nothing to do with him believing in our "special relationship" with Israel, or insinuating anything remotely anti-semitic. It's about moral courage and the conciliatory reflex he has to extend grace to people who haven't earned and don't deserve it. People like Louis Farrakhan.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/taylor-marsh/obama-blows-his-sister-s_b_88647.html

[MadBadger]

1. I was Shocked to Find Taylor Marsh Shilling for Hillary...JUST SHOCKED!

[BringBigDogBack]

2. heh. you and me both.

:thumbsup:

[sandnsea]

4. I know, what a goof

I was reading it in disbelief, and then saw Taylor Marsh... oooooohhh. She's embarrassed herself as badly as Hillary in this primary. I think Hillary will recover a lot better than Taylor Marsh will. Unless her goal was to become the Ann Coulter of the Dem Party.

[Window]

23. Well said Sandnsea.

Taylor Marsh is a bad joke.



Peace:thumbsup:

[karynnj]

28. Me too - and as an English speaking person, I thought denounce stronger than reject

I reject advertising suggestions daily without a thought. Denouncing something requires some moral energy.

I am Jewish and I reject the ridiculous attempt to destroy a man's name through quilt by association. Not to mention - that party that HRC rejected - she was on their line in 2006. There had been a leadership change, but the group of antisemites in Manhattan still belong to it. If HRC is making this a litmus test shouldn't she have sacrificed their line in 2006 when she was running against a very weak candidate?

http://www.elections.state.ny.us/NYSBOE/elections/2006/general/2006_ussen.pdf

[Skittles]

3. Obama usually does election strategy quite well, neutralizing his true feelings

sometimes, however, it does leave a bad taste

[Schema Thing]

33. which of course, can be paraphrased as, "kill the jews!"

Obama's true feelings

[LibertyorDeath]

5. Obama will be the next POTUS

Your post is SHIT!!

[FlyingSquirrel]

8. Fling it back at him!

Poo fight! Poo fight!

[jackson_dem]

6. It could hurt him if the msm decides to cover it

But we all saw SNL didn't we...

[Ichingcarpenter]

7. Taylor Marsh is humanities best friend!!

She is a Goddess for the Peace Goddess
within the Goddess of democracy.


I bow down, as an ignornate male and human being to her
wisdom and fairness.

[susankh4]

31. I am with ya on this!

I am finding the most interesting things on her blog... that the MSM just seems to keep ignoring.

Ms. Marsh is not hurting herself one bit by aligning with Hillary.

When this all goes down... and our election is, essentially, stolen by the MSM's pandering to Obama ... and the party elders (all men) ganging up on Hillary.... many, many Dems will be forever indebted to her.

[anamandujano]

9. He sure shut Timmy up fast when he was reading some of Farrakhan's

statements, like he didn't want anyone to know about them. Was he ashamed of him or just attempting to cover his political @ss?

It did startle me somewhat to hear him say Minister Farrakhan. In that kind of situation, you don't really want to show that sort of respect. Big mistake. Hope he has to pay for it.

[jackson_dem]

12. Imagine if Hillary called David Duke "representative Duke"

But we know Hillary would never do something like that. :)

[casus belli]

10. So his denouncment and rejection isn't denouncement or rejection enough.

So what you're saying is...it doesn't matter how strongly he speaks out against Farrakhan, it won't be strongly enough for people whose sole purpose is to scratch at the surface until something catches.

I'm just waiting for the comparisons of Obama to the Beast as mentioned in Revelation. I don't know where else they could go with these attacks short of accusing him of wanting to destroy the earth.

[progdonkey]

18. I don't think anything will come close enough...

If Obama said, "Farrakhan is a fucking fuck who can go fuck himself. Fuck that fucker," the Hillary supporters would then say he's "rude" and "doesn't have the diplomatic personality necessary to be president," or something like that.

But referring to Farrakhan as "minister" is "showing respect to someone who doesn't deserve it."

Damned if he does; damned if he doesn't. Which is ironic considering that's what Hillary's had to deal with from the crazy right wingers who say she's a bad mother for staying with that philandering husband and setting a bad example for Chelsea, but if she had left him, she'd have been a bad wife and mother for not forgiving her remorseful husband and leaving Chelsea a broken home.

:crazy: The Crazy--it gets around.

[casus belli]

21. The Crazy - we need a cure. :) n/t

[autorank]

11. Good for him.

The original Sister Soulja moment should have told us a lot about who we were dealing with.

The execution of the retarded inmate in Arkansas told us even more.

"It's about moral courage and the conciliatory reflex he has to extend grace to people who haven't earned and don't deserve it."

I'll take that any day over any bull shit stunt. There are some major areas where I think Obama is headed in the wrong direction or with the wrong people. This, however, speaks well of the man.

[jackson_dem]

14. Yup, Bill Clinton didn't just talk about reducing murder he brought change and did it

Too bad crime has risen again with the rethugs in charge.

Bill Clinton had the audacity to call out Souljah saying white people should be killed. How evil of him! :sarcasm:

[autorank]

17. Nonsense. Here's death on a massive scale...

How about these dead due to bombing Iraq and starving the country through a US-British embargo enforced through the UN. When asked what she thought about the .5 million deaths of children due to this atrocity, Madeleine Albright said, "It was worth it."

So you take your US reductions in murder (if there were any) but ad back 500,000 Iraqi children and where are you?

From The Guardian, Mar. 4, 2000
http://www.guardian.co.uk/theguardian/2000/mar/04/weekend7.weekend9

"This is a war against the children of Iraq on two fronts: bombing, which in the last year cost the British taxpayer £60 million. And the most ruthless embargo in modern history. According to Unicef, the United Nations Children's Fund, the death rate of children under five is more than 4,000 a month - that is 4,000 more than would have died before sanctions. That is half a million children dead in eight years. If this statistic is difficult to grasp, consider, on the day you read this, up to 200 Iraqi children may die needlessly. "Even if not all the suffering in Iraq can be imputed to external factors," says Unicef, "the Iraqi people would not be undergoing such deprivation in the absence of the prolonged measures imposed by the Security Council and the effects of war."

[karynnj]

30. Clinton did support some excellent programs that did help,

but those numbers also benefited by a shift in demographics to fewer people in the most likely to commit violence category and the reduction in the availability of crack cocaine. (partially because we stopped letting it come into the country to fund RW actions in Central America.)

[Window]

24. Yes. It speaks very well of him.

Peace:thumbsup:

[Ravy]

13. The second to last sentence in the OP could be applied to his position

of meeting with foreign dictators without pre-conditios.

[anamandujano]

19. That position has morphed into Hillary's also. When questioned further,

in the last debate, he came around to her position that the ground needed to be prepared first.

[MrRobotsHolyOrders]

15. Taylor Marsh is a shrill moron

She should be placed in a rocket filled with cobras, and fired into the sun.

[lapfog_1]

16. Taylor Marsh writes

"needs another pillow. (Laughter, boos.)"

funny, all I heard were the boos. I was embarrassed for Hillary and for her campaign for allowing her to do another lame backfiring scripted sound bite joke/slam. It didn't work for her in Austin with the "change you can Xerox" and it didn't work last night with the "ask Barack if he's comfortable and needs another pillow". Both are snide and childish, both were scripted, and neither were funny. Just pathetic.

If you want to see a total deconstruction slam (which may have been scripted as well, or may not), see Lloyd Bentsen and the "you sir, are no Jack Kennedy" line... now THAT was a slam!


Anyway, Taylor is being disingenuous again, suggesting that the audience laughed at this lame attempt by Hillary. I didn't hear it, only the boos. Sorry Taylor.

[dkf]

20. Taylor Marsh has zero credibility

OP knows Huffington Post has cred where Taylor Marsh has none.

Very deceptive.

[blogslut]

22. By Taylor Marsh

Hillary Rulez!

the end

[boppers]

25. I just want to say that:

as an Obama supporter, I adios, blackball, brush off, burn, cashier, cast, cast aside, cast off, chuck, decline, deny, despise, disallow, disbelieve, discard, discount, discredit, disdain, dismiss, eighty-six, eliminate, exclude, heave-ho, ice out, jettison, jilt, junk, kill, nix, not buy, pass by, pass on, pass up, put down, rebuff, refuse, renounce, repel, reprobate, repudiate, repulse, scoff, scorn, scout, scrap, second, shed, shoot down, slough, spurn, throw away, throw out, thumbs down, turn down, veto, Farrakhan's position.

I guess that makes me anti-semitic, though.

[cali]

26. Taylor Marsh is not credible

on anything about this race.

[RogueTrooper]

27. Why, after 8 years of George W. Bush

does a Democrat need to have a "Sister Soujah" moment?

[jefferson_dem]

29. Stupid Taylor Marsh - even more wacky than the right wing wackos...

How He Won it

This exchange right here:

Have you ever seen a candidate extract himself from such a maddeningly stupid argument so adroitly? He read viewers' minds — we were all thinking, "What's the difference between 'denounce' and 'reject?'" — and made Hillary look silly for trying to create a distinction. It's this seemingly effortless ability to rise above the tedious semantics of American politics that makes Obama so difficult to attack. Even if you play better than him, he's better at mocking the game. McCain's got his work cut out for him.

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MTM3MGI5NGQxMjg2NDUxNzY1MmJiMDZhZTZkY2E2NWE=

[JTFrog]

32. Batshit crazy shilling for a batshit crazy candidate.

A year ago I would have only made a statement like that about McCain. No wonder they are such good friends.

[high density]

34. What more can Barack do, short of sending Farrakhan to Guantanamo Bay?

Is he supposed to have a duel with him or something? This is nuts.