Anyone notice how Timmy tried to gotcha Hillary with Putins Successor?

[trumad]

He asked Hillary about Putin's successor and she answered it perfectly and when she was finished, he tried the gotcha. "Do you know his name"? She did---albeit she had a hard time pronouncing it...Medvedev...which I can't blame her.

It was just another bullshit tactic, one of many the pumpkin head used in this debate.

Fuck Tim Russert!

[boston bean]

1. Russert Potato is a pig, that I think most can agree on. nt

[NDambi]

2. On MSNBC after the debate..Pumpkinhead said..

He asked the question and looked at both of them, it wasn't addressed to anyone specifically, yet Hillary jumped in...to answer.

I have to see the clip though..but that's his position.

Even though, I said in jest last night, looks like Hills is ready on day one, I really don't fault her for not being able to pronounce the name correctly...shooo..it's difficult. It was her whatever part that was funny though..ha ha..I say that alot, check my sig.

[MaineDem]

5. He said that this morning, too

He said he didn't address the question to anyone specifically and Hillary was the first to answer it.

I seem to remember the question being directed to her but I couldn't swear to that.

I thought it was quite a gotcha question, though. Kind of like "who is the President of Pakistan?"

[NDambi]

6. They showed the clip..he didn't ask anyone specifically..he just threw it out there

and Hill jumped in..in fact you can see Obama looking at her..and she took the bait. Smart move on his part..lol..as Pumpkinhead said, she should have said, go head Barack, you take this one...and I'll follow up..but she didn't.

[MaineDem]

12. Thanks

Goes to show how unreliable my memory can be. :)

[redstate_democrat]

18. Or

"Who is currently the president of the United States?"

Now THAT'S a "gotcha" question.

[rodeodance]

19. Ha ---i saw Timmy whining about that is am. also. he looked pissed.

[Sparkly]

20. Next time he can host it like "Jeopardy," with buzzers.

Can't stand Russert.

[MoJoWorkin]

3. He tried gotcha on both---- an equal opportunity scumbag, as usual

That is all he knows how to do.

[elixir]

32. I agree, equal opportunity. And he acts like he's revealed a terrible dark secret...

[flordehinojos]

4. i did notice that ... i also noticed (at least it seemed to me) that before the

9:40 PM break Hillary wanted to respond to something BO had said which needed to be answered with factual information. Deviated Septum Brian Williams shut her up saying they needed to take a break and that she would get a chance to reply when they came back from the break. When they came back from the break, however, Deviated Septum Brian Williams protected his candidate of choice by going immediately to a question for him, without even giving Hillary the chance to reply to the previous round, or without even acknowledging that he had told her she could reply on the return from the break. I also notice that after that break he and timmy rushette hardly gave hillary any time to talk or express her selling points. (and with the name of Putin successor's, i thought timmy rushette was making sure BO knew who it was and how to say it by having hillary field the question and the name...just in case. i figured timmy rushette did not want his candidate of choice to make a bush like gaffe.)

i also thought that timmy rushette's "hypotheticals" were totally absurd and ridiculous and i am so proud of the woman who told him, "you are making too many hypotheticals" and pointed him back to the reality on the ground.

i was also proud of the woman who said, "i've repeatedly said that my vote was a sincere vote" but would take it back if she could.

i noticed how barack obama answered some of the iran/"pahkistan" questions(as he likes to pronounce pakistan)/afghanistan by implying that he would be ready to defend THE HOMELAND .... (the HOMELAND those bush fascist words, get it? Who was he speaking too? was he speaking to bush republicans,to those neocons who cannot take a step without leaving a trail of fear mongering so as to submit people into some sort of slavery and/or be governed by fear? was he talking to the people who bought the bush kool aid? was he reassuring people in some code words that he was somehow going to continue with the bush propaganda spin? i mean, was he talking to those people who have made oodles of money by giving us the homeland bushit propaganda spin? Was he talking to the military/industrial complex? i mean, whatever happened to saying, THE NATION ... OR TO saying, THIS GREAT NATION OF OURS?)

timmy rushette looked so maniacky vile last night ... brian deviated septum williams had some white powder splashed over his hair ... i suppose he thought it made him look authoritative enough, or presidential enough, or respectable enough, or old enough to be asking question of a very wise woman ... and then his voice and that monotone incantation of all of his questions ... what a load of bull ... and going to break to make dollars is such an insult to the people of this nation who are really more interested in listening to the candidates than in listening to the money making machinery of corporate ads. i thought they did a great disservice to this nation by going to break and then by not following up on a promise to continue the dialog were left off when they came back from break. i contend, and i accuse brian deviated septum williams, of pulling the need to go to commercial break just so as to disrupt the discourse at hand. that really showed the cravenness of his soul.

did in the end timmy rushette and deviated septum brian williams realized that they better shut hillary up or she would be one upping them and their candidate of choice.

yes. i think they did. and i think that is why they shut her up after that first break.

[GCP]

7. Oh bullshit - it wasn't a gotcha question

If even I know Medvedev's name, I should bloody well hope either of them would have known it.

[trumad]

14. Oh bullshit bullshit...

then why ask her if she new the name?

That was a classic gotcha question.

[GCP]

34. She SHOULD know his damn name

We all ripped Bush for not knowing Musharraf's name. If I know it, either of these two should have known it.

[trumad]

39. She did know his name

and she clearly knew the guy and his politics. Why the fuck did Timmy have to ask her at the end of the question--- what's his name? He knew it, why did he have to ask her---- because it's a gotcha question.

[Cant trust em]

48. It wouldn't have been a gotcha question if she would have nailed it

First of all, it's Medvedev. Pretty simple name. It practically rolls off the tongue. What really annoyed me is how she blew it off with a "whatever". Sorry, Hill. The names of people you're dealing with are important. It shows that we are interested in their culture and that they have importance. This is a big pet peeve of mine when people can't get people's names right just because they're not Smith or Jones.

[indimuse]

8. I thought the whole intro was a GOTCHA Clinton attempt!

Debates are supposed to be about issues..policies... NOT he said she said...blah blah blah...flame flame flame..

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

28. True.

But she requested a debate on tactics over the weekend. :shrug:

[From The Left]

9. That's what a moderator is supposed to do

[casus belli]

11. I think you have moderator and prosecutor mixed up. n/t

[casus belli]

10. Obama supprter here, but he was extremely rude to Hillary.

There were several occasions where he just cut her off to argue counter points in the middle of her trying to answer question. He was completely rude. This isn't him breaking a news story, he's moderating a presidential primary. He needs to better understand his place.

That said, he tried several gotcha moments with both. I think some of the points he was pushing and trying to make into issues...like his "Will you right here and now state that you will use public financing in the General Election?", etc. He was a jerk, he made it very unenjoyable to watch.

[redstate_democrat]

23. I actually

think the campaign finance question directed at Obama was not a "gotcha" question. It was fair. If they can't answer simple questions like that without it being deemed a gotcha, then really what can we expect. These questions involve their positions on issues. These questions revolve around things they have said and/or done. They should be prepared to answer the questions. If the question is misguided, hints at an untruth, then they should make that known. Everyone tuning in probably has the aptitude to discern whether or not the question and following answer is satisfactory and will respond to it accordingly.

[casus belli]

29. It wasn't the question...

It was his persistence in asking it then rephrasing it and asking it again, and adding a point and asking again. he did it with several questions. The Farrakhan question was another good example. He asked the question no less than three times,adding additional quotes each time without changing the substance of the question. he was very obviously trying to trip them up. While that might be appropriate for an investigative journalist, it's not appropriate for a moderator in a debate.

[Dinger]

24. Thank You

You got it exactly.:hi:

[rodeodance]

26. i agree basically with you. thanks. Its all about him--which i find distracting

as the debate goes on.

[Independent-Voter]

13. hillary has a far superior knowledge of foreign policy, including medvedmedvedwhatever

Her Shrillness came off as a fucking idiot, again. Ready on day 1 my ass.

[casus belli]

33. In fairness, she probably should change that to...

ready "on the health care issue" from day one. "Let me just add something, this is too important". It is important, but she really runs with this issue, pushing other important issues to the back burner in favor of discussing this one more.

Geez. I wonder why no one has called her on the obvious. She often cites her experience - on health care she claimed to have been working on it for 15 years. As president she only gets four. If she hasn't had any luck making progress in 15 years, why should we expect "the skies to open up, and celestial choirs to sing" for the passage of health care in her four years as president?

[niceypoo]

15. And Obama was clueless about it and avoided it

She definately owns Obama in foriegn policy

[bigtree]

16. he should have asked Obama first.

I would have like to seen the depth of his knowledge on that.

[Independent-Voter]

25. Her Shrillness jumped into that question, and got her ass handed to her. No surprises here

[trumad]

40. She knew his name numnuts...

that is your name right?

[Independent-Voter]

51. Medevewhatever is not his name you fucking idiot.

[Occam Bandage]

31. He directed the question to both of them. If Hillary were smarter, she might have

seen the direction of this debate, let Obama go, and use her time to fill in whatever Obama "missed" or "didn't know." However, she decided she'd leap into it, and got in a bit over her head.

[redstate_democrat]

17. How exactly is

asking the potential leader of the free world the name of PUTIN'S successor a "gotcha" question? Is the bar set that low?

[rodeodance]

22. Recall it was a gottcha question for Bush years back. Still is today.

[redstate_democrat]

27. Well

every question directed at Bush is a gotcha question. Asking what he ate for breakfast this morning is a "gotcha" question with Bush. :shrug:

[rodeodance]

35. You are right on that. te he. But it was a gottcha question question last evening for Clinton.

[Dinger]

21. He's A Piss-Faced, Pus-Gut, Puke-Faced, Pencildick, Diaper-Wearing, Sexist, repuke

Well, you get the idea.

[vssmith]

54. Yes for sure, and he is a poor excuse for a human being as well

[Dinger]

55. He's Human? When Did That Happen?

Whoda thunk it?

[Occam Bandage]

30. Wow. We're setting the bar Bush-level low, aren't we?

Asking a potential President to name a world leader is not exactly dirty politics.

Seriously, this should have been a softball. If she says "Medvedev" cooly and confidently, she looks great. If she stumbles and--after getting prompted with the correct answer--finishes with "Med-ve-dw-oh-whatever," then it take a bit of the wind out of her Ready On Day One sails.

[trumad]

37. She clearly explained what the guy was all about...

and that should have been enough...but no---timmy wanted to see if she knew his name.

[truebrit71]

36. Gotcha is the only game that porcine puke has in his armoury...

...his other trick is slavish worship of the gop...

[Catherine Vincent]

38. I remember some reporter did the same gotcha with Bush back in 2000.

I think it was the leader of Pakistan. Bush didn't know how to pronounce it but hew as an ahole about it. Clinton laughed about not being able to pronounce Medved or whatever his name is.

[Johnny__Motown]

41. If he was trying that he would have brought up her "he has no soul comment"

[livetohike]

42. I wish McCain and Huckabee would debate and asked these

questions. I'm sure neither has a clue who the successor to Putin is.

[superkia]

43. If your ready on day one and your foriegn policy is so strong...

you would have no problem answering these questions. To me those were softballs for her to make herself look good, I would think that both of them would have known more about him and they really didn't.

[Perky]

44. I think it was fair game and she was ready for it.

Look she touts herself for her foriegn policy experience. She should know who this person is going to be. She did. Good for her.


She would have looked foolish if she did not know it...but she did.

[Cant trust em]

45. I was disappointed in her response

I really hope that our head of state can accurately pronounce another head of state's name. Then she blew it off as "whatever". I'm a professional fundraiser and I know how important remembering someone's name can be. As silly as it may sound to some people, this is a part of diplomacy that can make a big difference. It shows how in tune our country is with the culture of someone else we're trying to work with.

[jgraz]

46. trumad, you have found the unifying issue for GDP. Russert is a pumpkin-headed fuckstick

What a complete fucking idiot.

[Barack_America]

47. This Obama supporter thinks that Russert was out of line last night.

I like them to be harsh, but evenly so. Russert was much harder on Hillary.

[casus belli]

49. Seconded.

Tim Russert is an aggressive gasbag.

[Alexander]

50. Not knowing how to pronounce foreign names doesn't help.

Medve-whatever is not acceptable.

I'm not sure Obama knows how to pronounce it either, but it isn't difficult.

Med-vye-dev.

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

52. It was plain Obama didn't even know the name, pronunciation aside

He declined the question initially (it was offered as a jump ball) and never did say the man's name in his response. (Even after hearing it from Russert.)

Obama was probably just too much of a gentleman to want to show up Hillary by demonstrating his superior grasp of the issue. :eyes:

[Alexander]

53. Hillary didn't either. She only said "Meh" before Russert prompted her.

Even after hearing it from Meet The Tim, she still didn't pronounce it correctly - or even try to.

But if someone doesn't know the name, I'd rather they not even bother trying to say it than utter "Medeveh-whatever".