Hillary's whining last night about being asked the questions first is NOT very presidential!

[flamingpie2500]

How can anyone expect her to run the country with an attitude like that?
So much for being a "fighter".

[casus belli]

1. She should have waited until further in than the second question if she had to use it. n/t

[rodeodance]

2. Do you want a pillow to cry on?

[JVS]

3. Wasn't she the one who wanted these debates anyway?

[flamingpie2500]

6. yes. and lots more of them--to keep Barack off the campaign trail

[Just-plain-Kathy]

23. Hillary didn't want to debate for her senate seat.

In 2006, our local news (RNN) tore congresswoman Sue Kelly a new one for not wanting to debate her challenger John Hall; but they let Hillary take a slide.

New Yorkers never had a chance to see who Hillary was up against in '06. The GOP never $upported their republican candidate. It was as if the GOP wanted Hillary to regain her seat. If the repukes wanted to put an end to Hillary’s presidential candidacy, they could have easily stopped her two years ago.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

46. Excellent point . . .

Imagine how she'd piss and moan at a press conference where she was being asked ALL the questions.

Talk about non-presidential. Sheesh.

[bigtree]

4. neither was Obama's subdued act

He looked bored or sleepy.

[flamingpie2500]

9. subdued and factual--as opposed to saracastic references to SNL

[rodeodance]

13. his tone was flat-

[Darth_Kitten]

22. saracastic references to SNL?

Please lighten up a bit.

[flamingpie2500]

27. see post #25 for a direct quote in case you missed it last night.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

39. Anyone keep track of how many times Obama agreed with Hillary? that's all he had!

[Cant trust em]

56. That's the downside of going second

When you go first you get to frame the answer a bit. Unfortunately that also leaves you open to attack.

Going second gives you the opportunity to rebut, but if you have an agreement with your opponent it doesn't give you a lot to talk about.

[0007]

41. How can one get excited with the same routine over and over again.

[bdamomma]

5. I heard Hillary saying that last nite, was not to cool to say that.

[Darth_Kitten]

20. Not too cool?

Yeah, like totally. :sarcasm:

[SOS]

53. "Cool" added to dictionary in 1951

Cool adverb (1951): in a casual and nonchalant manner

Cool adjective (before 12th century)
2a: marked by steady dispassionate calmness and self-control
2d: free from tensions or violence

If you are implying the "kiddie" sarcasm, you are 60 years behind the times
(or perhaps 900 years behind, depending on precise historical use and definition).

[Independent-Voter]

7. You can't. She's the Veruca Salt of this campaign, and I can't say I'm not enjoying the meltdown

Give her a Oompa Loompa and send her on her way.

[BOSSHOG]

8. You want whining

Have Obama get the nomination and then check in with his campaign about Mid September.

[rodeodance]

11. OP needs a pillow

[flamingpie2500]

15. are you challenging me to a pillow fight?

[rodeodance]

21. you need one?

[flamingpie2500]

25. I don't need one, but Hillary is upset that noone has offered her one.

Hillary: Does Barack need a pillow?


Clinton notes that she's often taken the first question at debates, and references the Saturday Night Live sketch on the media love for Obama:

"Maybe we should ask Barack if he's comfortable and needs another pillow," she says.

[Cant trust em]

58. This sounds like something that would pop up in the Lounge. n/t

[elleng]

10. B.S.

She did not whine, but she asked a question asked by many, and then joked about it.

[flamingpie2500]

14. then she has to stop telling jokes, it didn't come off that way.

[Darth_Kitten]

18. Maybe get the chip off your shoulder and learn to understand people?

Geez.

[lse7581011]

17. You Mean?

That was an attempt at humor?

[northernsoul]

52. Comedic delivery is not her strong suit

n/t

[Malmo Blue]

12. Re: Whining

Ten bucks that the legions of Hillbots that have invaded DU lately will flock in here and complain that we're being mean to Hillary.

[JohnnyLib2]

19. See post 16. Trees, forest.

[flamingpie2500]

35. where do I sent the $10?

:sarcasm:

[JohnnyLib2]

16. Guess you have stopped watching *s press conferences, like most of us.

Both Clinton and Obama operate at a much higher level most of the time and are more "presidential" even at low moments. Perspective, please.

[flamingpie2500]

24. I still watch *'s press conferences and that is why I brought this up--

she was totally childish in those remarks--this country doesn't need more of the same.

[JohnnyLib2]

26. Good grief.

:banghead:

[SIMPLYB1980]

28. Well your "likable enough".

I think you do need that pillow.

[flamingpie2500]

29. Look at the headlines--I am not the only one

Minor Ripper: Hillary Asks if Obama Needs a Pillow


http://minor-ripper.blogspot.com/2008/02/hillary-asks-if-obama-needs-pillow.html

Why is Hillary talking about Obama being offered an extra pillow ...
http://answers.yahoo.com.au/question/index?qid=20080226224917AA62VFi

Hillary Clinton comment on Barack needing a pillow? - Yahoo!Xtra ...
http://nz.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080226195053AAuxvXq

LiveLeak.com - Hillary asks Barak "...if he needs another pillow."
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=5b2_1204085473

ETC, ETC, ETC

[rodeodance]

31. Las week it was the Xerox, this week the Pillow. No substance. Just hollow whining!

[flamingpie2500]

34. Her substance would have a lot more impact WITHOUT the whining.

[rodeodance]

38. You still need a pillow.

[From The Left]

30. Hillary's whining was bizarre

As usual, she just doesn't make sense.

[flamingpie2500]

32. Now that the substance of my original topic has turned to pillows let me just say that

when I heard her comment about the questions being asked of her first- all I could do was picture her in a room full of heads of state and making the same remark. Sorry if that is a problem for supporters but I feel it is a valid point.

[suston96]

33. Uh, she is right and she was also cut off more times than Obama.....

...and was forced to break and never allowed to come back to what she was saying at least once.

But it doesn't matter, the Obama snowball is now rolling downhill and will not be stopped.

[closeupready]

43. While I agree with the opening post, I also agree with you that

she was cut off, Williams especially was sort of nasty to her, and accommodating to him.

[The Backlash Cometh]

36. She was fighting. We criticized her husband for not doing more of it in the 90s.

Now when they do it, you call it whining. You just remember, if Obama gets the nod, he will be in the same position, so when he decides to point out the unfairness of the process, I hope you see it the same way you see it for Hillary. At least be consistent.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

37. she called Obama out when he tried to weasel out of "rejecting"Farrakhan, endorsement !

[flamingpie2500]

44. Obama's response:

"But if the word 'reject' Senator Clinton feels is stronger than the word 'denounce,' then I'm happy to concede the point, and I would reject and denounce," he added.

–

[From The Left]

45. Obama Showed Class. Hillary Showed Crass

[Cant trust em]

59. That whole thing was goofy

Reject, denounce. Take your pick. Obama essentially called this out as a semantics game that was unimportant and the crowd recognized that.

[robbedvoter]

40. She POINTED IT OUT - as it was going on. "but I'll be happy to answer"

of course. them bitches is whining all the time" - nothing she says can be perceived other than "unhinged" or whining" by the BO team. Fortunately, she wasn't addressing you.
I am pretty sure she didn't try to make any of you "give up the Obama" you received - so, relax.

[tandot]

47. If Obama is pointing something out, he is being "assertive" while Hillary is "whining"

If he changes strategy, it is "honing and fine-tuning" while she is accused of having a mental illness like multiple personality disorder.

Just reading DU is getting really frustrating. Even a lot of female DUers are just parroting the gender stereotypical language.

[closeupready]

42. I agree. It was petty of her in the extreme to make an issue of the form of the debate, and not

just go ahead and answer the question. This is an election with life-death implications (actually, it could be argued that every presidential race is), and for her to take time out and complain about how unfair Russert/Williams were being by asking her to respond first was minor league.

[madmom]

48. Sometimes it important to get the last word in, and if you are the first one

asked, 9 out of 10 times you don't. Maybe that's what she was referring to.

[washingdem]

49. Especially because most people would WANT to go first

[DefenseLawyer]

50. I didn't watch the debate

I have been in trial, but I heard a clip of the "SNL" answer on the radio. Damn. It sounded canned, it sounded like the uncool person trying to be hip, and I'm still not sure what her point was. Was she trying to be funny? Was she complaining? Even if she had a point, she didn't pull it off. If that is the kind of advice she is getting in the war room... oh my.

[kid a]

51. To me, it basically lowered the standard to which all the rest of her answers should meet

Come on!
She wants to be president.
Will she hold a news conference everytime SNL does a negative skit about her?

[4_TN_TITANS]

54. I would think it logical to ask the 'experienced' person first..

:eyes:

[Cant trust em]

55. Can't this go both ways?

If Clinton gives a good answer Obama is forced to say "Well I think that Hillary has a good point".

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

57. Man These Contrived Hillary Attacks Have Gotten Weak And Boring. Guess All The Good Stuff's Been

used up.

[damonm]

60. Agree - if she's a "fighter", as she claims,

She WANTS that first question. It gives you the chance to set the tone and put your opponent on the defensive.

As with sports, winners want the ball.