Smack me in the forehead but guess what I just figured out...Ohio voting issue

[liberalnurse]

In Ohio:

Obama maybe "packing the house" but the house guests, they are "empty shells" so to speak as they had to of been registered to vote 30 days PRIOR TO March 4th......or no later than February 3rd (which is a Sunday by the way....thus they needed to be registered by February 1st).

The Obama-mania didn't really begin to escalate until AFTER February 5th...SUPER-TUESDAY.

Now, we know a vast number of college students and/or the under 30 age group of both male/females, all racial groups, they don't typically plan ahead; especially a month ahead for voting registration which is not a priority over going to the Club on Saturday night.

The 30 and under groups, they function with the mind set wherein their life cycles around their paycheck deposit, what to do on the weekend and selecting a meal at the drive-up window.

I'm hedging my bets that new registered votes, reportedly motivated by Obama-wave, that they didn't take the time to look up the voting rules before registering. Heck, many don't even recall what day to vote.

So, they may indeed be registered NOW but can not vote on March 4th in the Ohio Primary.

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Voter's Eligibility Law for Ohio

http://www.sos.state.oh.us/sos/PublicAffairs/VoterInfoGuide.aspx?Section=13

You have not been permanently disfranchised for violations of the election laws. You are eligible to vote in elections conducted in your voting precinct more than 30 consecutive days after you are properly registered to vote in this state.

[Independent-Voter]

1. I'll buy that. Obama's racked up in states with same-day registrations.

[cali]

2. Well, Obama's campaign has had a ground game in Ohio

for quite a while now, so it's hard to know how many of those attending rallies are registered.

[Riley133]

46. Where? I've only seen one bumper sticker and nothing else. No rallies 'til recently. nt

[Vinca]

3. So now voters don't count? nt

[Lerkfish]

11. exactly. caucuses don't count, states don't count, except for FLa and Mich.

and voters especially don't count at all.

the arrogance and the hubris is a mile high from clinton supporters and her campaign.

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[Emit]

18. !

[rodeodance]

31. OP did not say that. Your comment is divisive and does not contribute to the discussion.

[Kittycat]

4. Wow, so you seem to believe that Ohio voters aren't registered?

Where have you been? Ohio has been a hot bed of voters rights issues and fraud at the polls, long lines, etc. The democratic base is charged and ready to vote - and you somehow believe that all of Obama's supporters somehow don't register until the day they go to vote? That's just pure lunacy.

When I lived in Ohio, I registered to vote when I got my drivers license (upon moving to the state). Just because people don't vote, or haven't voted yet - does not mean they are not registered to vote :eyes:

[Egnever]

5. Maybe just maybe if everyone cant vote Hillary can still win!

[DUyellow]

26. LOL

[ElsewheresDaughter]

6. he may be in for a rude awaking

[ginnyinWI]

7. On the other hand,

Obama has been favored by people who are college educated and already engaged in the political process--and those people would certainly be registered. Hillary has done better among the working class. The only area where Obama might lose votes might be the non-college African America vote--so I guess we'll have to wait and see.

[Connie_Corleone]

8. Hate to burst your bubble (well, not really)...

Obama supporters in Ohio registered new voters before the deadline earlier this month.

[Lerkfish]

9. yup, clinton supporter dismissal of citizens again: "empty shells"

sour grapes, much?

[rodeodance]

34. You obviously did not read the OP well enough or you would not have made such a rude comment.

[Lerkfish]

41. I repeated the OP's rude comment back to them

typical. attack, and then accuse the other of attacking when they point to the attack.

that all you got? pathetic.

[jgraz]

10. You forget the independent and crossover voters

IIRC, Ohio has an open primary. With the Repug nomination pretty much in the bag, it's likely that we'll see a lot of anti-Hillary voting by the Repugs. Obama's in good shape, especially after last night's debate.

[Riley133]

48. Not necessarily.....they are planning to cross over and go with HRC in my neck of the woods. nt

[Renew Deal]

13. You live in Ohio

You spend an aweful lot of time on DU considerign you have an election going on.

[cooolandrew]

14. Obama mania has been strong formonths it's just everyone is aware of it now. Barack has been

has been getting big rallies way back since las tsummer.

[Sensitivity]

15. GREAT! Hill wins if you KEEP OUT NEW VOTERS.

[mtnester]

25. So, you want Ohio to completely violate its established voter registration rules

Really?

[EmperorHasNoClothes]

16. This attitude makes me sick.

Yes, lets hope Hillary wins Ohio not because she's the better candidate, but because Obama's supporters didn't get registered in time. Real democratic of you there.

[Shakespeare]

20. Perfect summary.

What a ridiculous, nasty thing for the OP to write.

[Labors of Hercules]

24. Here here... and what's more...

Demonstrating the prejudice that many Obama supporters are too lazy and civilly irresponsible to have registered on time is just an asshole thing to do. :grr:

[liberalnurse]

36. Your the one saying that.

That's your conscience speaking.....You can wipe your shoes off now.

[Labors of Hercules]

40. WTF? I'm the one saying what?

Saying that it's assholic behavior in the extreme to make these types of prejudiced assumptions about Obama supporters?

Yes. You're damned right I'm saying that.

[xmas74]

42. No-

it's saying that some may not have realized that there is a cut-off date.

I heard it a few times in Missouri from college students. They thought that they could just go in to any polling station with a picture ID and vote. I heard quite a few state that they thought that everywhere had same-day voting. Well, Missouri doesn't allow it and neither does Ohio.

That is the nature of the beast. Sometimes people screw up. They think one thing when it's really something else.

Think of it this way: if they can't vote now they're already registered for November.

[Tarc]

29. This attitude makes me smile

This will keep the "I'm voting Obama cuz he's a hottie!" crowd at the mall instead of the ballot box come March 4th.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

50. Disenfranchised voters make you smile, huh? Good to know.

[oasis]

32. As in Florida and Michigan, "tardy" would-be voters in Ohio must also "follow the rules".

Get a grip.

[EmperorHasNoClothes]

38. Who said anything about following the rules?

I simply stated that hoping your candidate would win because of voting issues, and not because she's a better candidate, is sickening. It's disparate, and reeks of Karl Rove politics.

[John Q. Citizen]

17. My bet is that Hill voters are less registered since she never expected to need them, and got into

the Ohio game late, just as she's been late to every election since super Tuesday.

Look at Texas, for example. She just discoved last week what Texas voting and delegate selection was all about.

Obama has been planning ahead.

[Renew Deal]

19. Let's get her assessment of all the big unions going to the mattresses in Ohio.

And bringing their families out to vote.

[democrattotheend]

21. I talked to an Obama field staffer in Athens

And I asked him about this. He said that at least in his area, they had done a big registration drive of college students before the deadline.

I do think same-day registration benefits Obama, as it would benefit most Democrats in the general election, since it would make it easier for students and other transient populations to vote.

And as a 23-year-old recent college grad, I wish you could make your (legitimate) point without using it as a way to insult young people.

[democrattotheend]

22. I think there were efforts to get students registered in 2004 as well

Remember how the lines at precincts near Oberlin were hours long because the turnout was much higher than they expected?

That might not help the people in college now, but an Obama field staffer in Athens told me that they had been working to register students before the deadline.

[mtnester]

23. Our county BOE has prepared/trained poll workers for a slew of questions

Biggest one : why can't I get a ballot with all the candidates names on them? (because Ohio is a true partisan primary, you get to vote for the candidates in the party you declare you are in right now, not ALL of them)

1. Issues only ballot, what is THAT (for Indies who want to stay registered as Indies) - but I want a Democratic ballot..(which leads to)...

2. I have to change my party for how long? (Answer - two years...until the next Ohio Primary in 2010...no other way to change back if you change today, you will be listed as _____________with the state of ohio until the time you request a different ballot in 2010 and do this all over again)

3. Can I have a Democratic ballot and stay registered as an Independent/Republican anyway (answer - NO)

3. But I registered to vote last week. (Good, You will be able to vote in the General Election in November, but not today)

As a poll worker, I cannot wait. It will be a fine day of pissed off people,...voters AND poll workers.



edit - typo only

[liberalnurse]

30. Me too.

:thumbsup: :hi:

[displacedtexan]

37. Thanks for that info.

It looks like we'll get an actual, quantifiable report on Dem voters in your
primary.

[mtnester]

39. You are welcome...Ohio primaries sound complicated

but they really aren't. If you know the rules, you can easily convey them. Now, will people like the rules? Some will, some won't...such as it is with all rules that exist to a degree.

It will be a crazy day for sure, but having been on the ground in many ways on primary and election days, since 2004, questions from voters don't scare me....it is what the Repukes are doing outside the room that does...I have seen too many shenanigans. Even though we elected a new Dem SOS in 2006 (and sent every single Repuke from the Blackwell regime packing), the Republicans still work hard to disenfranchise voters...and will CONTINUE to do that, because no matter who wins the Dem primary, the Repubs know the only WAY they will win in November is again by cheating.

[Riley133]

49. Thanks for doing it, they needed the workers. Want me to bring you some cookies? nt

[mtnester]

53. Nah...the fun time is on November

I do not do inside poll work in November...I am outside, in the rain (yes always rain in Ohio) making sure people can vote. It is a rough job let me tell you.

Our BOE members understand what I do in November of primary years..they are usually more able to fill inside poll spots for a presidential general than the primaries, issues only, special or off year elections.

I always end up so bitterly cold...but it is SO worth it

[Tarc]

27. This is the way ALL states should be; registration, Democrats only, in advance

thus blunting the impact of Republican and so-called "independent" meddlers.

[Riley133]

47. You can switch hit at the door, though.....

but you remain on the books as that party until the next primary, usually two years.

[rodeodance]

28. Its a valid concern--the mania has ruled over reason.

I'm hedging my bets that new registered votes, reportedly motivated by Obama-wave, that they didn't take the time to look up the voting rules before registering. Heck, many don't even recall what day to vote.

[rodeodance]

33. an Obamafolk was saying the other day that his friends were coming from MI to

the Toledo rally (i think it was that one).

So. there is some of that also to swell the crowds. To what degree I do not know. --off topic I know-but related.

[gasperc]

35. you make a fair point but the polls generally take this into account

the gap is closing fast and Obama may not be able to overcome Hillary's lead that she has enjoyed in Ohio. However, as a former Edward's supporter, I would take your point only as cold comfort and continue to work as hard as possible to win the most votes. Because, in the end, that's what Tuesday is about.

[LadyVT]

43. Yep! Good post!

[saracat]

44. Well considering the Barack campaign perfected the art of "Democrat For a Day " flyers

and encouraged students in caucus states and closed primaries to vote for Barack for "renumeration, $250 in Iowa, this would not be surprising.And of course Ohio has troubles of its own to begin with.

[DURHAM D]

51. What - $250?

Are you serious?

[NeedleCast]

45. Hooray! Hillary finds a loophole!

Don't think this is going to have nearly the impact you think it is.

[anamandujano]

52. Oh those pesky rules!