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Wed Feb-27-08 02:55 PM
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OBAMA should FORGET OHIO after 24/7 MSM orgie about "Hussein" "black racism" and "hack politics" |
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There really should be standards to prevent the MSM from endlessly repeating political smears. They are really aiding and abetting the “swift-boating” of our leaders.
Radio talk jock, Bill Cunningham has been calling Obama, "Barack Mohammed Hussein Obama," for some time, along with the claim that Obama "was raised in madrassas in Indonesia" part of a "black separatist" church and a "black racist." But the MSM just gave him a national megaphone.
We may not like it, but the likelihood is that a good sliver of the Ohio audience will not vote this “Hussein” to lead America’s war on terror.
The constant repetition of smears about the "hack Chicago politician from the Daley political machine" using this kind of language in the MSM, especially in Ohio, will likely stall the surge of support to the Obama campaign.
Obama would probably be wise to head to Texas to try to hold onto his lead there.
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Wed Feb-27-08 02:55 PM
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1. He's gonna lose Ohio because of one right-wing talk-show host? |
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Wed Feb-27-08 09:03 PM
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41. I think the point is that the MSM replays the radio host speech over and over, |
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so it isn't just the one guy but the hammering by MSM like Dean's "scream".
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Wed Feb-27-08 02:58 PM
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2. He needs to take hold of his name claim it use it that will pacify the nonsense. |
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Wed Feb-27-08 02:59 PM
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Can't modify prejudice in 6 days. That will take months |
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Wed Feb-27-08 02:58 PM
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3. OR some people will be outraged by this and vote For Obama just to spite the racists |
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You can't run away from a fight just because of this crap. He will win Texas anyways.
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Wed Feb-27-08 02:59 PM
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Wed Feb-27-08 03:00 PM
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6. There are great islamic name out there Mohammed Ali for one. |
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Wed Feb-27-08 03:10 PM
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16. And a reminder: The true racists weren't going to vote for us anyway. nt |
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Wed Feb-27-08 08:50 PM
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34. Apparently that logic fails the OP's author |
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Wed Feb-27-08 08:15 PM
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33. This race is the one that could turn the tide |
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It is my dream that the young voters will say, "enough" to all the race baiting of the past.
If this election proves nothing else it sjould be " that dog don't hunt no more" Tweety and Rusty!!
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Wed Feb-27-08 03:00 PM
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Wed Feb-27-08 03:00 PM
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7. There are talk radio hosts in Texas |
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We can't run away from this crap. It will just follow.
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Wed Feb-27-08 03:02 PM
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9. But the local media there has probably not pushed this story in the same way |
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The McCain rally was in Ohio. A big local story.
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Wed Feb-27-08 03:02 PM
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8. If Obama loses Ohio it is because it is a closed Primary |
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The GOP cannot vote in Democratic Primary and Vice/Versa Independents do not vote in Closed Primaries.
The Democratic Base votes in Ohio Primaries.
Frankly I like this --whoever wins. At least the GOP and Indies have not chosen our candidate in Ohio. Whoever is the winner.
Get used to the RWers. The Media have kept the Democratic Party stifled. The GOP will not tolerate it, I believe.
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Wed Feb-27-08 03:05 PM
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10. There are many factors that will hold back Obama in Ohio. This becomes an ADDED FACTOR |
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Wed Feb-27-08 03:08 PM
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14. It's not a "closed" primary... |
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You can pick up any ballot you want. Unlike some states that have true "open" primaries where all the choices are on one ballot, Ohio has different ballots for each party. So a Democrat can, in fact, pick up a Republican ballot and vote, but they would not be able to vote in the Democratic Primary because you can only vote once.
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Wed Feb-27-08 04:52 PM
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29. Don't you have to be a registered voter like 30 days before election? |
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Wed Feb-27-08 03:14 PM
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22. Independents can vote in the OH primary |
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And so they should be able to. Self-identified Democrats make up 40% of Americans, according to the latest Gallup poll. That is the highest it has been in 7 years, but it's still not high enough to win the general without support from independents. So allowing them to vote in our primaries is a good way to test which candidates will appeal to independents in the fall.
I do agree that registered Republicans should not be able to vote in Democratic primaries though, or should at least have to actively switch their registration at the polls, the way they do in Iowa. That would discourage strategic voting, since most of the strategic voters are the ones who are active with their state party and wouldn't want it to be on their record that they were ever registered as Democrats.
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Wed Feb-27-08 04:04 PM
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26. If you cross over in a primary in Ohio |
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you are actively switching your registration. You have to sign a form saying you support the party (Democratic or Republican) whose primary you are choosing to vote in. You are choosing to be affiliated with that party. My sister did just that a couple of days ago, switched from Republican to Democratic to vote for Obama.
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Wed Feb-27-08 03:06 PM
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11. Southwest Ohio was racist long before "Willie" Cunningham |
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came a long. Obama is not going to win down there. I don't think it is reflective of the rest of the state. No one in Cleveland cares what a bigot in Cincinnati has to say, unless they were bigots themselves to begin with.
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Wed Feb-27-08 05:56 PM
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30. Only Southwest?? My Brother lives in OH and think most state is a little racist |
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Wed Feb-27-08 06:27 PM
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31. Well the whole country is a little racist |
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And I'm sure Ohio is no different. But Cincinnati in particular has a terrible history in race relations- shockingly bad.
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Wed Feb-27-08 08:52 PM
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McCain will lose big like McGovern in '72.
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Wed Feb-27-08 03:08 PM
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13. I understand that Ohio is an open primary, but I'm still not sure how much effect this will have |
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on the democratic primary race... we'll see I guess.
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Wed Feb-27-08 03:10 PM
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17. It's the registration laws... |
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I believe Ohio requires registration at least 30 days prior to the election. Which means that if you decided to vote on February 15th, you'd be out of luck. This primarily effect young voters who have never registered. Once registered in Ohio, you remain on the voting lists for years -- even if you have moved from the state or have died.
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Wed Feb-27-08 03:09 PM
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15. This is only a scent of what would |
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be in store for BHO in the GE. Get over it, and get some skin. Fuck, this is nothing compared to what we will get.
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Wed Feb-27-08 03:11 PM
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18. Billy Cunningham also said back in 2001 that is was the fault of the |
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Edited on Wed Feb-27-08 03:11 PM by mtnester
FIREFIGHTERS in New York that they got killed.
I was listening to that show (no left of the dial shows on back then) and it incensed me so badly, I made my contact right then with Ohio's IAFF president, who called the IAFF national president, who within the hour scathed his ass.
He did not care. He never retracted...the Ohio IAFF president said they all knew Billy Cunningham was a dick even before that horrid horrid statement.
Yeah, he can say worse. And it can GET worse.
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Wed Feb-27-08 03:11 PM
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19. This episode may "inoculate" the public from futher use "Hussein" but the repetition of the nasty |
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way it was used in Ohio is likely to have at least a short-term effect.
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Wed Feb-27-08 03:12 PM
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20. I agree with some of your points on the MSM aiding "swiftboating" but |
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Obama should campaign EVERYWHERE in spite of this nonsense.
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Wed Feb-27-08 03:14 PM
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21. Folks, the SWIFT-BOAT SMEARS against Kerry would have been impossible in the U.K or France for eg |
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Wed Feb-27-08 03:15 PM
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23. People like Billy Cunningham & Rush Limbaugh are the epitome of what is wrong with this country |
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and the mindless people who buy into their logic are the epitome of the epitome.
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Wed Feb-27-08 03:19 PM
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24. The issue is not "racism" but an attack of Obama's "true-blue PATRIOTISM" that befits a POTUS |
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Edited on Wed Feb-27-08 03:21 PM by Sensitivity
The bigots are betting that many Americans will not trust a Barack HUSSEIN to be a fervent, patriotic defender of mainstream American values and honor.
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Wed Feb-27-08 03:21 PM
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25. This is exactly why Obama is going to KICK ASS in Ohio |
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People are sick and tired of these cheap attacks. Watch and learn.
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Wed Feb-27-08 08:54 PM
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37. Yes zulchzulu, you are so right. |
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Just like folks are sick and tired of the concern trolling.
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Wed Feb-27-08 04:35 PM
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27. He should concede nothing |
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...especially in the face of this Cunningham motherfucker. Cunningham has given us a good preview of the type of attacks Obama should expect if he wins the nomination, and the only way to counter them is to challenge them with Inquisitorial intensity. Those types of attacks need to be shouted down at every opportunity.
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Wed Feb-27-08 04:39 PM
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28. Win TEXAS and the primary is OVER. Then you have time to deal with racists |
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Wed Feb-27-08 07:52 PM
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32. NEWS FLASH: Cincinnati is not Ohio. Repeat: Cincinnati is not Ohio. |
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You may be amazed to learn this, but people in Cleveland, Columbus, Toledo, Youngstown, etc., cannot even pick up Cincinnati radio stations unless it's over the Web.
And not even all of Cincinnati is gonna fall for that crap.
Ohio is a big state.
Saying Obama won't win here just because of one bigoted radio idiot down south is like saying Hillary won't win because the mayor of Cleveland has endorsed Obama.
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Wed Feb-27-08 09:05 PM
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43. As I said above, it isn't the radio host, but the MSM playing his speech over and |
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over. That's how the message gets out.
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Wed Feb-27-08 08:56 PM
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38. Thank you for your concern, now take a hike. This diary is to scare people |
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Wed Feb-27-08 08:56 PM
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39. Yep, you're right! He should just pack it in and stop trying. |
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:sarcasm:
Fuck no. You don't quit just because one ignorant fucking moron of a talk show host attempts to stir up shit.
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Wed Feb-27-08 09:04 PM
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42. Only 5 days left. Win Texas and it is over. Close loss in TX OH and it drags on |
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Wed Feb-27-08 08:59 PM
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40. If someone really changes their vote ... |
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over what Cunningham said then we don't want their vote, they can fuck off and die.
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Wed Feb-27-08 10:27 PM
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44. Personally, I think people here decided long ago who they were going to vote for and..... |
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nothing written, heard or seen on TV as a flash marketing ad will change their minds at this point. Republicans here, by the way, are planning to vote for HRC provided they want to do the 'strategic' vote and cross.
November could show changing of minds depending on what happens between now and then. Way too early to call.
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Thu Feb-28-08 08:07 AM
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45. Hillary is NOT giving up easily. Obama will be lucky to hold Texas. Better FIGHT FOR TEXAS |
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