kucinich person here...just watched the debate.... HRC came across whiny and unprofessional

[ORDagnabbit]

that comment on being picked first and refrencering SNL....

then her being slapped down with her own words multiple times...

Being in Oregon I dont think I'll be able to help in the selection processes as our primary election is so far out but after last night if we were voting tomorrow I would go for Barack after her performance.

wow.

[grantcart]

1. "I am ready to be your leader" . . . "Don't ask me the first Question"

hmmmmmmmmm

[BringBigDogBack]

11. I think you could use a pillow...

[Arugula Latte]

30. "Oh, but I don't MIND being asked the first question"

Suuuuuuuuure, Hillary. You were just bringing it up for the hell of it.

[FrenchieCat]

36. Leader from day One.....just don't want to go first!

Come on, Hillary!

[Maat]

2. I am a former DK Team Leader, and I agree (n/t).

[liberalnurse]

6. Funny thing, Kucinich is not going to win his Primary either.

Kucinich will be job hunting after Tuesday.

Maybe the two of them can hold onto each other and cry after March 4th.

[Emit]

8. That's funny to you? n/t

[cyclezealot]

16. For sure. If it were not for the few

Kucinich types, i am sure I'd not be a Democrat. Better not get rid of the few who do not turn coat on us; or we'd follow suit and leave too.

[Algorem]

10. You heard that on the Bill (not so)Cunning ham show did ya?

[ORDagnabbit]

13. yeah his polling 55% in his district is bad isnt it? n/t

[Whisp]

14. for a nurse, you have a special kind of nasty about you.

don't talk about Kucinich in a denegrating way, please.

Hammer on Obama all you want, but get your keyboard off Dennis.

grrrrr.
====
edited for rough language.
I know some people bait for this purposely and I got caught up in it.
never know what's going on here sometimes.

[liberalnurse]

15. Hey Whisp

Look at what a birds-eye view I have for ya.

[Whisp]

23. that makes no sense.

but you've been on a roll with that for a while now.

bub bye

[bvar22]

33. You know, I used to pride myself on never putting anyone on Ignore,

but last week, I put four people on Ignore.
I can tell by your response that I was right to put one of them on ignore.
Thanks.

[Maat]

32. That would be a shame ... it'll hurt all of us when he doesn't win.

Dennis K. has always stood up for what was right.

It will show me just how powerful and vindictive the Corporatocracy really is.

[shadowknows69]

34. Do you support any Democrat other than Hillary?

Is this just a game to you?

[sniffa]

35. It's the Crying Game

or the Tasing Game, whichever.

[charlie]

39. Cimperman has a big honking deficit to make up

in just a few days. As of the 27th, it's

Kucinich 55%
Cimperman 29%

Hope you don't mind, but Kooch is whaling the tar out of his opponents.

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Ohio_Release_022708.pdf

[democrattotheend]

3. Nice to hear an undecided perspective

Although if I were you, I'd make the last part of your title part of the post instead. Just call the post "Kucinich person's impressions of the debate"...doesn't come off as a flame war that way.

I'm glad to hear that the debate pushed you toward Barack. As as supporter I was really proud of him last night. And I'm sorry things didn't work out for Kucinich. I was never a supporter but I did like his health care plan, and I was wishing he was there last night to point out how phony the debate between Clinton and Obama on the issue is.

[Cha]

4. Thanks for your review...

I just saw that clip of her complaining about being first and saying it was "allright" when clearly it wasn't and referencing SNL to make her point.

I remember cnn was helping hilaryland in the beginning at some debate and there weren't any objections from camp hilary.

[The Anti-Bush]

5. How do you ask for the debate, and then complain

about being asked the first question? I didn't hear her complain about getting to speak last.

[cyclezealot]

7. Kucinich supporters here, too.

Ever since Kucinich dropped out, we just watched a couple debates. The left overs seem like amateurs. if we were to watch, we might become even more apathetic. So what ever happens , happens. We vote for what ever left overs are still standing after Denver. I say, the protests of Michigan and Florida have merit. The way the primaries are handeled. We need change the process.

[ORDagnabbit]

9. the process completely blows! n/t

[hogwyld]

12. Another Oregonian here

We'll see what happens, but as a Obama supporter, I kind of hope it's all settled by then for the good of the party.

[marions ghost]

17. agree

it was her worst debate yet.

Clinton started out with that beef about the Obama campaign's emails to Ohioans which seemed calculated to set an adversarial tone but she did sound whiny. On the other hand maybe others saw it as appropriately "tough."

I felt like I was watching one of those trumped up challenges on Survivor. One of these guys isn't gonna remain on the island. (Yawn)

Instead of another debate, let's have them run an obstacle course. This thing has reached the ridiculous stage.

[Bluebear]

18. You have been posting anti-Hillary for weeks, so posing as an undecided is a little weak, no?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=4366638

[ORDagnabbit]

31. you do realize I didnt write the post and I was copying it from dailykos right?

[casus belli]

19. there had been two questions posed when she pulled that out. n/t

[Ravy]

21. She was referring to being asked to respond first on every question...

in the portion of the debate where they both got to respond to the same question. Obama could simply say he agreed with Hillary and then add in his own point or two, or object to some difference and use his entire time to expound on that particular point.

They should have been more evenly divided as to who got each question first.

[casus belli]

22. Again, there had been exactly TWO questions asked when she said that.

And if you watched the debate in its entirety, the argument fell flat. They most certainly didn't favor asking the first question of any particular candidate. They did a nice job of rotation.

The comment just came off as petty and combative.

[Ravy]

24. She said it on the third question. Three in a row,

amd in 5 of the last 6 debates.

One of those was decided by coin toss, and Obama chose to go second, so that is his preference for whatever reason. The media is accomodating him.

[casus belli]

26. self delete - dupe

[casus belli]

27. Self delete...dupe.

[casus belli]

28. Nope...two.

1. First question asked about her comment regarding her statement to the press about Obama campaign flyers in Ohio.

The first 15 minutes of the debate was a discussion on healthcare in response to this question.

At the 15:25 mark, she complains about getting the first question all the time.

So...two.

[Ravy]

29. You missed the question about 3 minutes in where BW talked

about the "Obama dressed" picture and asked her if she would say that it did not come from her.

[casus belli]

37. Ah...you are right. I stand corrected. n/t

[From The Left]

20. You Must Hate Women

That's the usual DU meme.

[2008]

41. No, that is not "the usual DU meme"

It's a bullshit charge that's continually fired at Obama supporters by a very small but disproportionately vocal handful of pro-Hillary trolls who will find something better to do as soon as she drops out of the race.

I understand your overall point, but this transparent, disingenuous tactic is not the usual DU meme.

[Deep13]

25. Bullshit. She looked great.

And she can't help it if her voice did not change at puberty like males do.

[anonymous171]

38. She says she's a fighter

But her behavior says otherwise.

[pokerfan]

40. It wasn't so much that she sounded whiny

And I don't think she did. She even went out of her way to sound anything but. She just saw it as an opportunity to launch another one of her scripted zingers, this time 'pillow' instead of 'xerox.'

But the biggest problem is that it made her look weak. Can you imagine Bill taking that route? I sure as hell can't.

I just want this over. I will be 'fine' with either candidate at this point.