papau
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Thu Mar-25-04 11:57 AM
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Kerry didn't propose a $.50 tax increase on gas(supported deficit red bill |
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Edited on Thu Mar-25-04 11:59 AM by papau
http://www.statesman.com/news/content/shared-gen/ap/Presidential_Elections/Gas_Prices_Politics.htmlToday The AP's Calvin Woodward pointed out that Kerry did not propose a 50 cent tax increase on gas, but did support the deficit-reduction proposal that included it proposed by another senator. I wonder if the GOP ads will now change - Or if others in the media will point out the GOP lie.
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Thu Mar-25-04 12:01 PM
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1. its still a $0.50 per gallon increase |
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I make no difference to me if he proposed it or supported it; it is a regressive tax that hits the poor much harder. But then again they don't vote......
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papau
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Thu Mar-25-04 12:17 PM
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5. But as a total deficit reduction compromise in a GOP Senate. |
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The point was to save the finances of the nation - and an increase in the gas tax - with its positives of a decrease gas usuage/better environment/less reliance on mid-east - was a better way to go than stealing Social Security payroll taxes.
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Thu Mar-25-04 01:09 PM
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8. In that case... make a specific Surtax |
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Like we did to pay off the Revolutionary War... The tax disappears when the debt is paid. This tax would have gone on for ever and hit the poor far worse.
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papau
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Thu Mar-25-04 01:45 PM
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9. True - but global warming meant push down oil consumption |
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there were even special payments to the poor to cover the cost of gas in one proposal!
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Thu Mar-25-04 04:00 PM
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12. i believe, this is what the party in power does... |
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they include something they can 'getcha' on if you vote 'yes', in something they can 'getcha' on if you don't vote 'yes'! :crazy:
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Thu Mar-25-04 05:21 PM
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that's why any of these votes has to be taken with a pound of salt. In order to judge the vote, you have to actually understand what is being voted on, which is difficult enough at the time for a Senator with a staff to help him, forget about it years later based on a political ad soundbite.
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Thu Mar-25-04 12:04 PM
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2. Are you kidding Rove will keep shoveling out the lies knowing |
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Edited on Thu Mar-25-04 12:07 PM by Zinfandel
just like with Clinton...you keep throwing lies from all directions and some will stick and even if they don't...people will grow weary and assume SOMETHING must be there...
And Bush keeps bringing in the money, to keep the barrage of lies from never ending.
And their ace in the hole, which they will use, republican owned software of electronic voting machines (BBV). to steal another election.
Not to mention the capture of Osama later in the year, to prade aroud for votes.
These fascist won't go down easy, we haven't seen nothing yet.
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Thu Mar-25-04 12:07 PM
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Longtime lurker who has now had it up to here with the media not reporting Kerry's real stance on issues, including this one now. I can't take this anymore so I'm going to email the network news stations and see what kind of response I get!
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Thu Mar-25-04 12:09 PM
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:hi: One more voice out there fighting the media! Welcome to DU!
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Thu Mar-25-04 12:22 PM
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7. Thanks for the welcome |
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I am tired of sitting back! I'm currently unenmployed so I guess I should start doing something constructive with myself besides revising my resume!
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Feanorcurufinwe
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Thu Mar-25-04 12:18 PM
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No, I'm not a masochist, I don't actually personally want to pay more for gas, and I certainly don't feel like I can afford to, but I think gas is too cheap in the US. It is a polluting, non-renewable resource, I fully support the idea of higher gas taxes, but rather than go towards deficit reduction, that revenue should go towards developing alternative energy sources.
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Thu Mar-25-04 01:53 PM
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10. Anyone else think that gas prices are so high |
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because Shrub is the only President in who knows how many terms NOT to call upon the reserves to lower the gas prices on Americans? He hasn't done it once. Clinton did it, Bush I did it... when gas prices get nuts that what are reserves are supposed to help us with unless there happens to be a major shortage.
Honestly since nobody made Cheney divest of Halliburton, I am thinking Bush still has all of his stock in these oil companies and the increases in prices only means increases in profit so of course Bush won't help lower the rates. We still consume at our normal rates, but the prices are significantly higher. The only one profiting from this is the oil companies and their stockholders... aka the current President and VP.
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Thu Mar-25-04 01:56 PM
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11. I don't think the Strategic Reserve should be tapped just to lower prices. |
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Rather it should be held in reserve, and only used for strategic reasons. Like, if there were another OPEC boycott or a war that interupted supplies from overseas.
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