whatchamacallit
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Thu Feb-28-08 11:26 AM
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Seriously, do you actually think you can guilt people into supporting Hillary? |
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You've tried shaming us with the "cultist" and "ignorant children" labels, lately it's been "you're not really democrats" or "you're helping to deny health care to 15 million people"... How long before Hill supporters threaten to commit suicide if we don't switch?
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Thu Feb-28-08 11:29 AM
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I support Hillary, and I don't argue these things at all.
--p!
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Thu Feb-28-08 11:29 AM
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2. Don't forget the "traitor to your gender" charge if you are female. |
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Apparently, you should vote for HRC because there will never be another qualified woman running for POTUS in our lifetimes. :crazy:
Doesn't say much for their opinion of the female gender in general, does it?
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Thu Feb-28-08 11:33 AM
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4. or the "sexist" label if you are male. |
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more than a few of her supporters here claim that our fact-based criticisms of her constitute nothing less than sexism.
My ass, speaking as a democrat, is my response.
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Thu Feb-28-08 05:47 PM
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29. Can you point out who here on DU has said this? |
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Thu Feb-28-08 11:30 AM
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3. Well, Do You Honestly Think There Is NO Validity To These Claims? |
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I agree that if there are things we do not like about a candidate, we should discuss them in an adult manner. Some people (sometimes the case with me) forget this occasionally.
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Thu Feb-28-08 11:36 AM
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5. Uh yeah.... I think there is NO validity to these claims. |
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"cultist" - nope
"ignorant children" - nope
"you're not really democrats" - nope
"you're helping to deny health care to 15 million people" - nope
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Thu Feb-28-08 11:51 AM
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17. I Agree With You To An Extent |
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My main "thing" now, as it relates to Obama , is more with some of his supporters than it is with him. As I mentioned in an earlier post, I support Hillary because she has more experience in a wide range of areas. Also, even though it doesn't relate to the issues, I admit one part of the many reasons I support her is because I don't feel she is being treated fairly by the media. Yes, Obama gets some scrutiny, but not like Hillary. I am a proud, die-hard Hillary supporter, period.
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Thu Feb-28-08 11:37 AM
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6. How about you, do you feel there's validity in those claims? |
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Thu Feb-28-08 12:07 PM
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"cultist" - No,not really cultist (no on validity in my opinion) "ignorant children" - no, not ignorant "you're not really democrats" - no on validity "you're helping to deny health care to 15 million people" - I'm not as informed as I could be on this, but I don't think Obama is "trying to deny" health care.
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Thu Feb-28-08 11:38 AM
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7. Did you actually think that using right-wing smears e.g., Hillary is "polarizing" |
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would drive anyone to the fraud Obama?
Come now, you are in a short-term relationship - an infatuation - a fad.
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Thu Feb-28-08 11:41 AM
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9. I honestly don't care who you vote for. I believe everyone should choose their own path. |
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Thu Feb-28-08 11:42 AM
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11. Nevertheless, you support these methods.....nt |
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Thu Feb-28-08 11:47 AM
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14. Why do you say that? As I stated, I'm not interested in making change your mind. |
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Edited on Thu Feb-28-08 11:51 AM by ResetButton
I don't spend much time bashing Hillary. Most of my posts are reactions to outlandish claims made by her supporters.
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Thu Feb-28-08 11:50 AM
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Thu Feb-28-08 11:42 AM
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10. she is polarizing, even among dems... isn't it obvious? |
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it's not a RW smear, it's the reality you're too stubborn to accept.
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Thu Feb-28-08 11:46 AM
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The right-wing smears ARE the SOURCE of these perceptions among Republicans certainly -- and this has been a central theme from St. Obama.
Now YOU separate a fact from its origin. That would make my head hurt.
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Thu Feb-28-08 11:49 AM
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15. using the *dem* primaries as an example, she is very polarizing. |
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sorry you've got blinders on. DU is another example, although you seem to think anyone who doesn't support her here isn't a real democrat.
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Thu Feb-28-08 11:52 AM
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18. Your condescension is not very becoming on you. |
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"you are in a short-term relationship - an infatuation - a fad"
Get off your high horse. We're able to make up our own minds.
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Thu Feb-28-08 11:38 AM
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8. IF YOU DON'T VOTE FOR HILLARY, I WILL CLUB THIS BABY SEAL!!! |
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Thu Feb-28-08 11:46 AM
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12. No, in the same way you cannot bully someone into supporting Obama n/t |
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Thu Feb-28-08 11:58 AM
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20. I admit my reluctance to proselytize may have something to do with the fact that we're winning, but |
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I'm sure I wouldn't be interested in shaming you into changing your mind even if we weren't.
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Thu Feb-28-08 01:16 PM
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23. Wrong person...I am still in the non committed camp..my primary is next Tuesday |
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my first choice was Edward's and I have not yet made my mind up between the two left standing.
I was simply pointing out the other side of the coin. My whole point is you cannot bully or shame anyone into voting for a candidate...not in a free will society.
Thanks for your help.
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Thu Feb-28-08 11:55 AM
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19. No just as WHITE GUILT to get support for Obama only goes |
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so far and people recoil---guilt does not work for either candidate.
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Thu Feb-28-08 12:32 PM
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22. Obama doesn't make WHITE GUILT -based appeals. People actually ~like~ him. |
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Thu Feb-28-08 02:21 PM
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Thu Feb-28-08 05:46 PM
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28. OK. 'Lots of people' like him, not including emilyg. |
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Thu Feb-28-08 05:45 PM
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27. Am I reading stromfront.org? |
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Maybe it's because I was born in Europe (specifically a country that never had any colonies), but 'white guilt' has never entered my mind re. Obama.
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Thu Feb-28-08 02:44 PM
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25. Seriously, do you actually think you can bully people into supporting Obama? |
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Thu Feb-28-08 05:24 PM
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This is where we have an advantage, we don't have to. He's doing fine without Hillary supporters.
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Thu Feb-28-08 05:49 PM
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30. 'He's doing fine without Hillary supporters.' - will that work in the GE? |
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Thu Feb-28-08 05:52 PM
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Edited on Thu Feb-28-08 05:53 PM by Marrah_G
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Thu Feb-28-08 05:57 PM
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32. This post was in response to one about how we used to democrats before Obama |
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Talk about flamebait! If anyone should be ashamed, it's people who call you names for not supporting their candidate.
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Thu Feb-28-08 06:14 PM
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33. I must have that poster on ignore... I haven't seen that thread |
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