How Many Obama Supporters Have Stopped Posting and are Just Waiting...?

[Bonobo]

I have given up posting here in GDP because there havn't been any open minds here in a long time. It's pretty clear that Obama will win and that Hillary is not wanted and should drop out.

Here on DU, there is a lot of pointless mud-flinging, whining and carping about the man who will be our nominee. It seems that there are fewer and fewer vocal attacks on Hillary and even fewer defenses of Obama. I am wondering if this is because many, like me, have just become tired of the attacks and given up posting here?

I can't wait until Hillary has officially withdrawn and all those here, who are so bitter against the best candidate we have had in years, will have to accept the situation, find another website or shut the hell up.

[Arugula Latte]

1. Tuesday can't come soon enough.

The delusion is thick around here, isn't it?

[CoffeeCat]

2. We are in a holding pattern...

...and it is very uncomfortable. It's like the time between someone's death...and their funeral.

You just want to get over this limbo time, and proceed through the formalities--so you can move on.

[pdxmom]

3. I've given up on responding in most cases. It appears that most everyone

here has made up their minds and there is no point in responding to any of the arguments at this point. It's 5 days and for a change, the spring weather here in Portland is gorgeous, so I'm just going to enjoy that while I can.

[mmonk]

4. I have posted replies to some of the attacks.

But not much posting and not many OPs. It's not worth staying in GD: P very long.

[Alter Ego]

5. I can't wait till posts like this disappear.

Seriously, you're not helping the situation by feeding the Hillary people's victim complex.

[jefferson_dem]

6. Me.

I've been much less interested in engaging my GDP friends in dialog about the election. The rhetoric has became too incendiary and harshly "tribal" for my tastes. I look forward to joining together again...in order to promote Obama to an historic General Election victory.

[NJSecularist]

12. Agreed. It has been very hateful around here lately

especially from some of the more militant Hillary supporters.

They would rather beat dead horses (i.e. McClurkin) and they have no interesting in uniting behind Obama if he is nominated.

[Bonobo]

15. Yes, hate. It's the lack of real content and just reflexive emotion.

[ClassWarrior]

22. "Tribal" is a good way to put it.

NGU.

[xultar]

7. ROFPNMPLMAO

[casus belli]

52. That's alot of letters. Please use caution. n/t

[Eurobabe]

54. i get the LMAO

but what's the rest of it mean? :shrug:

are you drinking those margaritas again xultar?

[JTFrog]

58. I take it to mean there was a puddle created from all that laughing. =D

[Eurobabe]

60. rolling on the floor peein in my pants laughing my ass off?

[xultar]

62. The biggest puddle.

[xultar]

61. ROF peeing N my pants lmao, no drinkin lately but next Thursday is my Margarita day.

[KAZ]

8. What's the point?

There are a handful of people here who post the same nonsense over and over. They'll start a thread with a false premise (aka lie), and when their mistake is pointed out to them with facts and articles, they'll flame a bit, and then disappear. Only to repost the same crap 5 days later.

Plus, I'm afraid to post anything for fear of being called one type of "-ist" or another.

I still read this forum for the really thoughtful, and information filled threads, created by some wonderful, non-spamming DUers.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

9. I've got probably 2/3 of the worst Obama-bashers on ignore and GD-P is still full of hatred

If Clinton's campaign were half as good as her spammers here the race would have been over on Super Tuesday.

[K Gardner]

10. I'm still around, but I've given up on GD:P until the Rules return w/Obama as the nominee. There is

nothing here but flamebait and dying gasps of a few. I see no point in arguing, there is no point in responding to the endless flamebait. When the time comes, I'll defend Obama against McCain and the RW, but it is simply pointless to argue with the same tripe that continues to be allowed to be posted here day after day by a handful of bitter people in denial. I imagine most of Obama supporters are just hanging back and waiting for the smoke to clear. :hi:

[Mezzo]

11. "Hillary is not wanted" would be the crux of what's wrong with you. nt

and how a bunch of those asinine reasons could further alienate your own candidate's base.

Keep it up though. It's classy.

[Bonobo]

14. Typically, you seem to mistake me for a rep from the Obama campaign, and DU for the world.

[jenmito]

24. "nt" means you have no text in the "message" section of your post...

and I doubt people who support Obama will STOP supporting him because of things people post here.

[Binka]

27. Well Since The Message Was All Fury Signifying Nothing I Think The n/t Was Apt

Jesus the newbs coming out of the wood to scold the rest of us is so fucking exhausting. It is like having a newborn who will not stop crying.

[jenmito]

29. Good point.

:hi:

[11 Bravo]

65. In this case nt obviously stands for "newbie twit".

[NightWatcher]

13. yep, just reading, laughing, and shaking my head at some of the posts

I've tried to extend an olive branch on three occasions now, but from now on , I'll watch till Super Duper Rootin Tootin Tuesday

[Cha]

16. I'm loving GD-P...

'Course my Ignore column is fat and all I see are DUers who are working in a positive direction but I've enough of the nasty business.

[tridim]

21. GD-P makes me feel sick..

I've never used the ignore function, maybe that's why I can't even look any more.

I sincerely hope the Clinton supporters are able to "get over it" after Tuesday, because I'd really like to discuss politics on DU again.

[Cha]

25. If you want to be on DU when the

General is going on ..whomever has to get over it.

[Eurobabe]

50. Betcha my IGNORE list is BIGGER than yours....

Heh-heh

:headbang:

How many YOU got zidzi?

[whatchamacallit]

17. I went on a bit of a jag this AM, but yeah it's probably best to stay clear of the death rattle

There's going be a good deal of thrashing at the end as Hill supporters come to grips with reality.

[TwilightGardener]

18. I'm terrified of Tuesday. I'm terrified he won't win any state except VT, and then

the Clinton machine will get some sort of big comeback, and then we've got more debates, more ads, more attacks, more BS until PA and beyond. Ugh. Please, God, let this be almost over--I will forever resent the people of TX and OH if they give Hillary a win at this point.

[K Gardner]

19. Take a breath.. ! Its all over but the shoutin :-)

[Windy]

23. agreed. I am worried too and just want it over! n/t

[long_green]

34. TX and OH can give Hillary a win if they want

They should vote for BO because you're tired of the campaign? Come on.
I voted for Obama in LA because I prefer him to HRC. But that's just my vote. If the campaign is to continue, fine.

[Eurobabe]

51. Go get a brown bag wiener, you're hyperventilating man!

Take a deep breath, then have some Koolaid. Be'alright.

[butterfly77]

70. I'm just enjoying it now, the back and forth...

this is the most exciting election season I've seen in years but, its too long. At this point I just hope it will be over soon,so that we can began working on the RepubliCONS...

[CitizenRob]

20. Honestly, the Hillary supporters are obnoxious.

I'm not talking about Hillary supporters that genuinely believe in her ability to run this country and make proper policy decisions. I'm talking about the Hillary supporters who are only voting for her because she is female, and take every counter argument as though us Obama supporters were woman hating Neanderthals. So sorry.

About me. I'm a gay 31 year old white male professional in Northern California.

I'm young enough that I have never known a world where women were not leaders in every aspect of our society. I love women, and almost every woman I have known professionally has done their job at the top tier of performance in my departments.

And let me tell you, nothing peeves me off more than somebody telling me I have a bias I do not have. And I've been told that over and over and over again in DU.

If you want to vote for Hillary solely because she has a vagina, and you have a vagina, good for you. But that is not a logical argument that is going to turn me to vote for her. Sorry, not when I have all the evidence of her track record to indicate she is NOT the candidate for me.

In addition, I doubly don't appreciate the "Cult of Obama" posts in this forum. You're doing right wing smear work when you post that crap. Make no mistake, Obama is going to be our candidate in November. At this point the race is pretty much done. In consideration of that I find it even more repulsive that Hillary is "pulling out the kitchen sink" in negative campaigning to destroy our chance to grab the presidency.

Here in California I watched THIS EXACT SAME THING happen in our last Governor's race. The Dem candidate had to spend all of his funds in the primaries in order to counter the slime campaigning of his competitor. The end result is that he didn't have enough money to do ad buys and keep his name in the heads of voters. Initially polled with a huge lead on Arnold the public forgot who the candidate was (hell, I can't even remember his name now, just a year later.)

If Hillary wants to fight dirty, send out a final scorched earth barrage, that's her priority. But the end result is that we may have a withering candidate without the funds to fight a national battle against a well funded Republican candidate.

[Auntie Bush]

41. That was NOT a very tasteful comment and was totally uncalled for!

"If you want to vote for Hillary solely because she has a vagina, and you have a vagina, good for you."
That comment was totally unnecessary and smacks of misogyny. I just wish all those who have a penis would go home... we have no use for you. I also notice those with a penis prefer Obama. (i.e. white males)
There!!!!!!! How do you like that kind of talk??????? Two bits you didn't appreciate it any more than I did. You think you're being smart but you're really just a fool with a penis. Sometimes a taste of ones own medicine make people see the light.

[casus belli]

53. Doesn't bother me a bit, actually. But I don't offend easily either. n/t

[Auntie Bush]

69. Well maybe it should!

I could say a lot of other things but I'll control myself and say no more. But I hope you got the message and use some common sensitive sense sometime.

[Yael]

73. I think you just made his point for him.

;)

[maddiejoan]

79. As a woman

who doesn't have a vagina, and STILL supports Hillary, I resent this post.

That is all.

[Cant trust em]

26. If people have been around DU for the last few weeks

they know that most people's minds are made up. I feel like I've read, heard, and seen everything that is for or against either candidate. Most of my posts are regarding strategy on beating McCain in the fall.

[book_worm]

28. I'm waiting. Cautiously optimistic but fear if HRC wins OH and TX even by a small margin

that the pundits will build it up out of proportion just to keep this thing going.

[CitizenRob]

30. But is that bad for us?

Nothing is worse for the Republicans than an anonymous presidential candidate. If Hillary and Obama are the main show their names are recognizable, and they become the Zeitgeist candidates that brainless middle grounders well vote for just because they have heard the name. Meanwhile McCain is an anonymous nobody.

[K Gardner]

37. The worst scenario is that Hillary will try to trudge on until APRIL 22. Can you even

imagine seven weeks filled with nothing but endless Clinton desperation tactics and infighting? It simply cannot go on. Right now, Obama is trying to fight McCain AND half of his own party AND the Clinton Attack Machine. He has no united front behind him. For example, he is now trying to disprove the fallacy that he is unknowledgeable about Iraq because of a HYPOTHETICAL question that was asked in a debate. So, he is being attacked by McCain, McCains generals, BUSH, the MSM and of course, Hillary and her minions.

Over the misinterpretation of an answer to a hypothetical question. Because of a stupid debate. Because of a debate that Hillary pitched a hissy fit to have otherwise he'd be a "coward". Over a question MEANT to trap him into an answer he'd be hit over the head with. Over a question that Hillary refused to answer. That's why it can't continue :-)

[Major Hogwash]

63. 5 days left.

That's about the limit of my stomach lining at this point.

The ice cream isn't working anymore.

[wildflowergardener]

31. posting

I never have really posted all that much, but I have many people ignored - and have never cared for arguing about politics, so I know I'm only posting in positive Obama messages - not in the big argumentative ones (if I even see them since I've got so many people on ignore I'm probably missing alot of them)

I will be glad when this is all over though.

Meg

[caligirl]

32. ditto.

[killbotfactory]

33. There is too much crap to sort through.

I just hope this type of crap doesn't continue on until the convention.

[RoadRage]

35. Yup.. me!

I was posting 20 - 30 times a day.. and realize I was just talking to A) A Choir who already agreed with me or B) A Brick Wall who no matter what I said or how much sense it made wouldn't accept it, and would disagree no matter what.

Well, what fun is that? The point is - no one is going to change my mind.. and i'm not concieted enough to think i'm going to change anyone elses.

So, I read a few posts.. laugh.. then go check out a few news sites and turn off the computer. I'll come back around March 6th to see how things are shakin'.

[sandnsea]

36. Man the phones

Time is better spent making phone calls at this point.

[Psst_Im_Not_Here]

38. Still reading, but,

I've only posted a few times in the last 2 weeks. But, my ignore list is getting extremely long. Funny thing, I had never had to use it before, not even in 2004. Sad, really.

[apocalypsehow]

39. I wouldn't blame them. The small coterie of vicious HRC supporters swarm nearly every thread with

the most ridiculous accusations, smears, and innuendo's imaginable against Obama supporters, post OP's that contain nothing more than reams and reams of regurgitated, dittohead rubbish taken straight from Rush or other reactionary gasbags, and routinely harass Obama supporters from thread to thread in an attempt to shout down debate.

They are also quite good at manufactured outrage, strawman tactics, and brazen, provable falsehoods. On that latter point, showing said posters irrefutable evidence of the same in an attempt to elicit, if not an apology, at least a concession that their charges are false is labeled "stalking" or "harassment," a handy enough way to duck out of the matter which they repeatedly employ.

Still, it should all be over soon and we will have a presumptive nominee, probably next week after Texas and Ohio vote. In the meantime, don't let a tiny gang of internet thugs run you off. I know their tactics are outrageous, but hang in there, the vast majority of us are on your side. :thumbsup:

[HeraldSquare212]

42. That's my point - this place fell apart after Iowa

the Hillary swarms against Obama were repetitive and coordinated and were an attempt to simply choke this place and shut down conversation.

[apocalypsehow]

49. I agree with your post, but the only thing one can do in the teeth of such bullies is fight back.

It can get tiresome, I concede. Hang in there, we've only got about a week of that kind of crap left to endure, I truly believe.

[stillcool]

40. I'm over it...

spending less time here, and spending more time at other sites, but for some reason it just isn't the same. It seems to me there are a lot less people here, but I don't know where they've gone.

[marlakay]

43. Hoping it will be over next week nt

[OnionPatch]

44. Me too.

I'm wondering why I even stop by here lately. It actually makes my stomach feel a little off. I never believed their would be such vile hatred between Dems on DU. I just want this primary to be over. I hope we have a presumptive winner next Tuesday.

[greguganus]

45. "just waiting"...sounds like Obama sleeper cells.

GOBAMA08 !!!!

[alcibiades_mystery]

46. I've basically stopped

The Clinton people are mostly on ignore, and I don't have the energy or the interest to even bother with the ones who should be on ignore.

They're behaving in the most despicable way imaginable, and I'm not interested in participating in their viciousness and stupidity.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

47. I'm not sure I would be that blunt about it, but . . .

your point is well taken. Five more days until the Clinton clock winds down and we can start to unify around Obama.

[Catherine Vincent]

48. Give me a f'ing break on this thread.

:rofl:

[ellisonz]

55. I've cut back and I'm making good use of the ignore function.

[donheld]

56. I took a bunch of people off ignore only to put them right back on

I took them off because I wanted to see if they were getting better. I learned my lesson.

[ellisonz]

57. "Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me." - GWB

http://www.brainthink.com/view_article.php?articleid=103

Words to live by.

[donheld]

59. You mean

"Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, you can't get fooled again." - GWB

[davsand]

67. How long did you last before you put them back?

I did that same thing, Don. I just hate using ignore--in fact I had never used it prior to this primary. I cleared my ignore list too. I think I made it about half an hour (maximum) before I had one of them back on ignore. The rest followed shortly after.

Every primary on here is (and has always been) ugly, but this year has been especially stupid.



Laura

[npincus]

64. Hillary is handing her opposition research to McCain

at this point... she needs to put the party before her own ambition,

[kevin881]

66. exactly.... cannot keep wasting time reading pro-hill posts and refuting them -nt

[Viking12]

68. I didn't post much to begin with, but nothing at all lately

Far too much venom. My ignore list has grown from 2 to almost 30 in the last month.

[Yael]

71. I think this is the only site left on the net

that has people who still think this is hers for the taking.

[K Gardner]

74. I obviously need to get out more !!!

[Forkboy]

72. You contradict yourself.

I have given up posting here in GDP

;)

[Bushwick Bill]

75. Kick.

I just pulled the ripcord on an honest thread asking about which candidate is less of a CFR/PNAC lite/banking/AIPAC/ military industrial consortium puppet. It was open, acknowledging that at first blush, Hillary is the puppet, but that I am open to hearing the same argument about Barack.

I didn't click the post button because I said, fuck it, enough with the intra-party takedowns. B to the O is on the verge of sealing this shit. But, I still have mad love for Hillary supporters. They appreciate more than anything Hillary's will to take shit to the mat. We NEED them.

[Johnny__Motown]

76. Looking past Hillary but still posting. The sooner they come around the better for all of us

[here_is_to_hope]

77. Me! Me! Me!

But then, I am the big, strong, silent type....:) :silly: :silly: :silly:

[Scriptor Ignotus]

78. me, until just now when i responded to your post

about who is not posting. it's useless to debate anyone anti-Obama. totally useless.

[ORDem]

80. That's pretty much the size of it. You can only put up facts and reason

for so long to the HRC supporters. They will always find a way to blame others and rationalize some bizarro scenario for HRC to get the nomination. Better just to lay back and wait (unless you're busy campaigning of course) and let the chips fall as they may.

Let 'em have their fun for they will be cryin' soon anyway.

:dem:

[yourguide]

81. I've been trying to lay low

unless a big story pops.

However, I suspect that she might be insane enough not to drop out after march 5. I think she squeaks by in Ohio by less than 5%, gets beaten by 5% - 10% in texas but gets crushed in delegates there which SHOULD be enough to make her drop out, but it wont be. Puerto Rico will be her firewall.

[bigbrother05]

82. Don't post much, unless Breaking news or something of

importance.
But this place is like a Greek tragedy
Can't wait until Tuesday