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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 12:26 PM
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David Gergen Confirms Hillary did NOT support NAFTA
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 12:28 PM
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1. I knew it. I've been trying to find proof. I actually saw her say she disagreed with Bill on it
but I couldn't find it.

The Obama supporters will never believe it and will still say she did so what the fuck does it matter?
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jasmine621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 12:40 PM
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11. Here is one link. Will have more.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 12:32 PM
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2. But chose to not HAVE that battle. Chose to NOT OPPOSE Bush's decision to use force in Iraq.
Chose to NOT OPPOSE Bush on ToraBora. Chose to NOT OPPOSE Bush keeping Rumsfeld after Abu Ghraib. Chose to NOT LEAD a filibuster on Alito.

Chose to OPPOSE Kerry on Iraq withdrawal plan, speaking against it on the senate floor in June 2006.
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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 12:34 PM
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3. I can confirm otherwise
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 12:35 PM
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4. Wow. A Clintonite defending a Clinton. I guess that settles it.
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elixir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 12:38 PM
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8. Thank you for the words of support. We enjoy supporting each other. Have a nice day.
Is that all you had?!
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 02:15 PM
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16. Learn to think.
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juajen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 12:37 PM
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5. Thank you so much for posting this. I missed it last night,
I loved the ad, and I'm grateful for the info on NAFTA. Of course, Hill has to take the bad with the good when it concerns Bill's administration, and this is one of the whoppers. I almost supported Ross Perot because of NAFTA. I'm wondering how it can be changed to reflect the needs of our country instead of the ones its benefiting now. Luckily, a woman with real smarts has a plan to do this, if she's given a chance. Here's hoping.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 12:37 PM
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6. So what about her claiming it what an achievement and good for America on balance?
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 12:40 PM
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13. This entire argument is stupid. Nobody really thinks
that Obama or Clinton believe that NAFTA is all good or all bad, or that HRC was completely against it when she was in the WH, or that either of them would treat NAFTA significantly differently when in office. It's all just pandering to Ohio blue-collar workers.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 12:38 PM
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7. So that settles it... Hillary lied in her book
....
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 12:39 PM
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9. He's a LIAR! And, how dare you post anything that contradicts Obama's talking points on here.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 12:40 PM
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10. Breaking: Hillary caught in lie about NAFTA during debate and on video:
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 12:40 PM
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12. so in the quotes they pulled during the debate where she supported it,
was she lying?
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 12:40 PM
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14. Maybe this is a good reason why we should have access to her papers...
It was reported yesterday that she wanted NAFTA passed after her medical plan It was discussed on MSNBC. She just wanted her med proposal to be passed by Congress first.

I saw Gergen yesterday talking about her reservations about NAFTA. But then later I saw the other discussion.

We need her papers to clarify all this.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 12:42 PM
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15. If she releases her papers, she won't be able to play the game she currently does:
For all things that happened under Clinton:

1. If they were good, she was for it and helped make it happen.
2. If they were bad, she was secretly and silently against it.

For all things that did not happen under Clinton:

1. If we didn't want them to happen, she was a driving force blocking it from happening.
2. If we wanted it to happen, she was secretly and silently lobbying for it to no avail.
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