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Ugnmoose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 06:33 PM
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CTV Stands By NAFTA Story
http://www.taylormarsh.com/archives_view.php?id=27111

"I called CTV to verify the story, especially given the Obama campaign's cries that it's "inaccurate." After asking Greg McIsaac of CTV if they were sticking by their story, he quickly called me back with verification. The facts of our story are accurate".

So much for the denial. Hey I understand why the Obama Campaign would want to deflect this hot potato. The fact remains it is out there - and it does not look good.

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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 06:38 PM
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1. Who should I believe? Taylor Marsh or the Canadian Embassy?
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Ugnmoose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 06:41 PM
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3. A non believer?
Are you suggesting that she made this up - that she never called CTV and they never confirmed the facts of the story are correct?
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 06:39 PM
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2. Taylor Marsh, Clinton's possibly paid sycophant? Oye. I'll trust a
senior Canadian Embassy official in Washington, D.C over her or anything she has to offer. She's a proven liar.

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Ugnmoose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 06:43 PM
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4. I'm curious
Could you please back up the statement "she's a proven liar". Inquiring minds would like to know.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 06:48 PM
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7. Go look at her site; she's totally biased and it's patently obvious.
She'll say anything anti-Obama whether it's true or not.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 06:50 PM
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8. Well, there's this whole Canadian embassy thing.
That proves she's a liar.
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 06:46 PM
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5. They can stand by their bullshit story all they want

It does not change that fact that it is BS.

The Canadian Embassy says "It didn't happen"

"It didn't happen," said Roy Norton, who heads up the congressional, public and intergovernmental affairs portfolio for the Canadian embassy. "


"CTV reported last night that two unnamed Canadian sources said"

If CTV wants to stand by their unnamed Canadian sources that's their

choice but it is shit Journalism IMO...

two unnamed Canadian sources LOL what a fucking Crock....

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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 06:46 PM
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6. NY times stuck by their story too
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ContinentalOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 07:08 PM
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9. What are the "facts" of the story anyway?
Here is the relevant meat of the original article:

"Within the last month, a top staff member for Obama's campaign telephoned Michael Wilson, Canada's ambassador to the United States, and warned him that Obama would speak out against NAFTA, according to Canadian sources.

The staff member reassured Wilson that the criticisms would only be campaign rhetoric, and should not be taken at face value."

There are no actual quotes given. So a top Obama staffer called the Canadian ambassador. That might have happened. He warned that Obama would speak out against NAFTA, which he did.

The only controversial claim is the alleged reassurance that criticisms of NAFTA "would only be campaign rhetoric, and should not be taken at face value." But that's not presented as a direct quote. I mean, IF this phone call happened, the Obama staffer could have said something as innocuous as "the Senator understands the importance of our trade relationship with Canada and looks forward to strengthening these ties as President" or something vague and diplomatic. The phrasing "campaign rhetoric" not to "be taken at face value" is pure spin concocted by the reporter, or more likely someone within the Clinton campaign.
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 07:12 PM
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10. Unnamed sources at the embassy, unnamed Obama staffer.
Smear. Reverse "Somali garb" tactic. Tiresome. I would really like to tell both Senators to STOP IT!
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 07:18 PM
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11. "Obama campaign's 'cries' that it's inaccurate."
:rofl:

I just can't take Taylor Marsh seriously. :thumbsdown:
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 07:25 PM
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12. Until CTV Can Verify Their Story A Bit More, We Must Take It With A Grain Of Salt. Is CTV Generally
respectable though, as in if they stand behind a story, they've had past reason to be trusted? Or are they a shill network like fox news or somethin. Anyone know?

This story might be true and it might not be. But until CTV does a bit of a better job supporting it, we shouldn't really run with it.
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