Obama campaign won't deny Canada NAFTA contact

[carlotta]

Oh, boy. This is getting good. Watch it all the way through. They claim Hillary's campaign also contacted the Canadian government, but she FLATLY denies it and gives them clearance to release the name of anyone (because she knows it isn't true). Obama's spokesperson gives a really, really lazy non-denial.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAJYMgX4JuU
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[cali]

2. Not only has Obama deniied it, so has the Canadian gov't..

[ElsewheresDaughter]

9. link with that proof please?

[Occam Bandage]

12. Try paying attention.

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/02/canadian_embassy_report_on_oba.php

[SayitAintSo]

24. The public affairs person denied... the ambassdor never did best I can tell...

CTV stands by their story.... How many times have you seen a "public affairs" organization come in and clean up after a "spill"....

http://www.taylormarsh.com/archives_view.php?id=27111

[thepurpose]

3. Let's make up some stories.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

4. the true Obama revealed

[proud2BlibKansan]

5. Of course her campaign also contacted Canada to discuss NAFTA

That's a no-brainer. In fact if they DIDN'T contact Canada, I would question Hillary's diplomatic skills.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

6. link some proof please?

[Occam Bandage]

8. The same debunked story that suggested Obama did also mentioned Clinton doing so.

[proud2BlibKansan]

26. Common sense

As I said earlier, it's called diplomacy. I would imagine BOTH campaigns (and McCain's too) have contacted many leaders of foreign countries to discuss the relationship they can expect with their administration. And any conversation with the leadership of any North American country would obviously include NAFTA. It's a no brainer.

[Occam Bandage]

7. The Canadian government denied it. Let's try to find a new story.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

11. link?

[Occam Bandage]

13. LMAO. Pathetic. Here you go.

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/02/canadian_embassy_report_on_oba.php

[ElsewheresDaughter]

16. TBM says "in recent days"....CTV said "last month" so TBM is a smoke&mirror for Obama

Roy Norton, the minister of public affairs for the Canadian embassy, is flatly denying that any Obama campaign official spoke to the Canadian ambassador in recent days or told him that Obama's anti-NAFTA stump speech is merely "campaign rhetoric."

[Occam Bandage]

18. Here. Try ABC's link, which makes it very clear he was referring to the CTV story.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/02/canadian-embass.html

[nsd]

10. From TPM:

Canadian Embassy: Report On Obama And NAFTA Is False
By Greg Sargent - February 28, 2008, 12:47PM

Roy Norton, the minister of public affairs for the Canadian embassy, is flatly denying that any Obama campaign official spoke to the Canadian ambassador in recent days or told him that Obama's anti-NAFTA stump speech is merely "campaign rhetoric."

"No, none," Norton told me when I asked him if Michael Wilson, Canada's ambassador to the U.S., had spoken to any Obama advisers recently. He added: "Neither before the Ohio debate nor since has any presidential campaign called Ambassador Wilson about NAFTA."

link

[ElsewheresDaughter]

14. CTV says it was last month...TBM says "days"...try again

[Occam Bandage]

15. You're really, really reaching here.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

17. not at all

[Occam Bandage]

19. Don't you ever grow tired of being so consistently wrong?

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/02/canadian-embass.html

[ElsewheresDaughter]

27. maybe it was just that Obama adviser didn't make the call but CONTACT between them HAS been ......

on going for months.

so the reporter was wrong about who called who....but I believe the content of the call.

<snip>

The Canadian embassy is proactively reaching out to the campaigns "all the time," Norton said, to try to meet with aides who might form the foreign and economic policy teams of any future administration.

"We talk about the whole range of Canada-U.S. issues which we think it's critically important that the presidential candidates be aware of including the number of jobs that depend in the United States on Canada-U.S. trade."

The Canadian Embassy says there are more than seven million jobs in the U.S. that depend on trade with Canada.

"We discuss our view that NAFTA has been very good for all three participating countries and has made the continent more competitive in the face of China, India, Brazil," Norton said.

[Occam Bandage]

28. Link to proof? Because I've linked to denials from both ends here.

[Mass]

33. What would you not believe that was against Obama,

[ElsewheresDaughter]

38. that he eats babies ;)

[Mass]

39. I am sure you would believed it if Hillary told you to do so.

[libbygurl]

20. Thanks, carlotta!

Good video. Ah, those Canadians!

[Occam Bandage]

21. Those Canadians, which have flatly denied the story.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/02/canadian-embass.html

[cali]

23. LOL! This thread is a DUzy

You repeatedly posting the evidence that the Canadian gov't has repudiated the entire story and a couple of morons pretending over and over again that you haven't provided proof. Just precious. The Stupids Step Out.

[Window]

32. ..

[Window]

41. This takes "talk to the hand" to a new level.

LOL!:rofl:



Peace:thumbsup:

[Redstone]

22. Snore...

Redstone

[indimuse]

25. K&R

all the way baby!

[jody]

29. Now you've done it, stirred the nest of BO cultists, you deserve the thrashing they will give you.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

31. LMAO

[Occam Bandage]

35. Yes, the crazy cultists who are doing bizarre things like linking to news stories debunking

this, denials from the Canadian government, and denials from Obama's campaign.

[Mass]

37. Not sure they know how to read. They can only post talking points.

[jody]

40. "denials from Obama's campaign"! That's as useful as a piece of used toilet paper. n/t

[cali]

43. no, dear. Denials from the Canadian Government

I know that some of the Hilly Heathers are rather dim, but really, this is absurd.

[jody]

50. I replied to #35 "denials from Obama's campaign". I see you have a problem reading. I'm so sorry.

:nopity:

[Occam Bandage]

47. I only mentioned it because the OP claims Obama's camp "refuses to deny" the story.

[jody]

49. I replied to #35 that said "denials from Obama's campaign". n/t

[Occam Bandage]

63. And if you had actually bothered reading what I just wrote, you'd have seen

that I only included that because OP made note of the claim that Obama's camp had supposedly not issued a denial, when in fact it had.

[anamandujano]

51. The denial from that spokesman was so tepid, easy to see he was parsing words.

[jody]

52. I replied to #35 that said "denials from Obama's campaign". Do you have trouble reading? n/t

[Forkboy]

56. No, but you might. The poster is ageeing with you.

[jody]

59. If you are correct, then I really am too tired. Mea culpa to anyone I offended. n/t

[Forkboy]

60. The poster is a big Clinton supporter.

And sorry for the snark.

[jody]

61. No sweat GI. Thanks for setting me straight. n/t

[anamandujano]

65. Cut down on your intake of politics. It works for me everytime.

:)

[ElsewheresDaughter]

55. ahhh we are the kool aid drinkers....now I have to get a new avatar

[Occam Bandage]

62. Again, you demonstrate a shocking lack of reading comprehension.

[Mass]

30. May be you need to stop watching you tube and start watching real news.

The Canadian government has said it was false.

[backscatter712]

34. Looks like the Hill-bots got their latest batch of talking points,

so now they're gonna spend the evening shrilling out the board.

Joy.

[cali]

44. The Hilly Heathers couldn't get any stupider or more dishonest

if they tried.

[Faygo Kid]

36. Associated Press: Candian Embassy confirms story is not true.

"The Canadian Embassy confirms that at no time has any member of a presidential campaign called the Canadian Ambassador or any official at the Embassy to discuss NAFTA. Last night, the Canadian television network CTV falsely reported that such calls had been made. That story is untrue. Neither before nor since the Ohio debate has any presidential campaign called Ambassador Wilson or the embassy to raise NAFTA."

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gUW0ApBGkGgu5CfdiXsM...

The straw grasping around here is astounding, at this late date.

It's almost over. Be of good cheer.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

42. I was just going to post that

Good job. :thumbsup:

Outright lies should not be allowed to be spread about either candidate.

[Faygo Kid]

45. Thanks. I'm replying in hopes of being post 35 million.

Check out the top of the page. A milestone tonight for DU.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

57. I didn't even realize that

I wonder who got it? Dang. I'd have posted more if I'd known. :(

[anonymous171]

53. Not True

"The Canadian Embassy confirms that at no time has any member of a presidential campaign called the Canadian Ambassador or any official at the Embassy to discuss NAFTA. Last night, the Canadian television network CTV falsely reported that such calls had been made. That story is untrue. Neither before nor since the Ohio debate has any presidential campaign called Ambassador Wilson or the embassy to raise NAFTA."

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gUW0ApBGkGgu5CfdiXsM ...

[Canuckistanian]

46. We'd LOVE for NAFTA to be re-negociated

There are a few things we'd like to change - like guaranteed American access to our energy supplies.

Of course, I wouldn't shed a tear if NAFTA just went away entirely.

It hasn't done us much good in trade disputes.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

48. good to hear you aren't to happy with it either

[Johnny__Motown]

54. THIS ENTIRE STORY IS FALSE, Multiple reports that it is false including MSNBC (Abrams show)

[AtomicKitten]

58. Has Hillary denied she puts kittens on spikes yet?

[LostinVA]

64. Uh oh -- if they won't deny it, it means they did it!

Right? RIGHT!

[Occam Bandage]

66. Actually, they did deny it. So did the Canadian government. Read the thread.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

69. More then likely there is some winking going on here......

To discuss NAFTA is where the word-play can come in. They may have called for something else, but discussed it. ;)


The embassy said this "At no time has any member of a presidential campaign called theCanadian ambassador or any official at the embassy to discuss NAFTA,".

But the chief source for the story came back, and "But just yesterday, one of the primary sources of the story, ahigh-ranking member of the Canadian embassy, gave CTV more details ofthe call. He even provided a timeline. He has since suggested it wasperhaps a miscommunication."

[avrdream]

67. Bumping the truth.

Is this the story that will finally have legs?

[casus belli]

68. No, it isn't. But no one blames you for trying. n/t

[MaineDem]

70. Already debunked.

:eyes: