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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 09:47 PM
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What is the most reliable Poll?
Help me understand what Poll has been right on the money for all the states that have voted?

I am tired of reading Polls and not knowing which is best.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 09:47 PM
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1. Survey USA is the best polling company this cycle.
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maseman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 10:02 PM
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11. Looking at one poll is not the way
Go to www.realclearpolitics.com and you must look at various polls and aggregate together for an average for the best result. It increases the sanmple sizes and reduces statistical bounce from poll to poll.

They are all done pretty well as long as they are legitimate.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 10:06 PM
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14. I go to RCP all the time. Speaking purely though of which single poll is most reliable, its SUSA
Problem with RCP, is they dont include some good polling companies like PPP, but do include shittier ones like Insider Advantage, Mason-Dixon and ARG.
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maseman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 10:09 PM
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16. I'm not trying to pick a fight or anything
but why do you think SUSA is the best?
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 10:22 PM
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20. They were rated Number 1 Most Accurate Pollster on a Polling Report Card
Was on the money in California, absolutely nailing it. They were right on in Maryaland and Virginia.
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maseman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 10:27 PM
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21. I'll have to check that out.
I do surveys and research for a living. Not political but in essence all polling is done about the same way. Most companies don't do anything dramatically different vis a vis phone research, internet, etc.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 10:10 PM
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17. I like real clear ~ thanks a lot
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 10:18 PM
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19. I go to RCP every day. It's also important to look at who is being
polled by the different pollsters. Some poll all adults that will answer their questions, others only poll registered or likely voters.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 10:07 PM
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15. I agree. I think SUSA has been most accurate.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 09:47 PM
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2. The one that shows my candidate is winning.
:)
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 10:00 PM
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10. LOL ~ I really want to know

I went to the Survey USA website but I don't see a comparison.

I want to know it like this ---

California prediction --- final result

Texas Prediction ----- final result etc.
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1awake Donating Member (852 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 09:48 PM
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3. from what I can tell looking around here
recently.. the most reliable poll, seems to be the one that best supports you candidate of choice.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 09:50 PM
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4. One with a "Keith Number" attached!
He takes the % of "undecided" and adds it to the "+" or "-" figure that you see after the poll numbers..

That number will tell you how much you can count on the actual accuracy of the poll. It's a good number, and I'm glad he's adding it to his poll numbers
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 09:53 PM
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6. Do you mean Keith Olberman?

I don't have a clue because I see some saying Clinton is up 10 in Texas and the next saying Obama up 11 in Texas.

Who has the best track record for the Primaries?
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 09:51 PM
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5. Elections.
No snark here, I'm tired of polls, as well. I'll be fine with an election.
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 09:59 PM
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9. It's the only one that counts, too
beat me to it
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 09:58 PM
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7. The one that shows my candidate ahead
At least, that seems to be a popular standard on DU.
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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 09:58 PM
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8. SurveyUSA has been by far the most reliable.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 10:03 PM
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12. What are they saying about Texas and Ohio today? nt
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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 10:05 PM
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13. Obama is up by 4 in Texas and down 5 in Ohio
Rasmussen, another reliable pollster, is saying the same thing.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 10:13 PM
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18. Thanks ~ that is much better than the Blowout
that HC needs ~ right?
PS/ Not trying to pick a fight by any means.
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maseman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 10:29 PM
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22. If Obama wins by exactly these margins
I don't see how HC could come back. He would end up with the majority of Texas and a little less than the majority of Ohio's. But it would be a huge blow to Hillary.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 10:34 PM
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23. Who knows
Polls don't predict anything, they capture a snapshot in time. Most polls are still showing 10% undecideds, so nobody knows who is going to win until we see the exit poll results.
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NEDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 10:35 PM
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24. Election Day.
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demosincebirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 11:54 PM
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25. I go to Pollingreport.com, and get 'um all
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 12:05 AM
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26. This one is the easiest to look at all of them
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 04:01 PM
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27. Thanks ~ this is my favorite so far
It gives a clear picture of where the truth may be someplace in the middle.

Thanks again
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Sir Jeffrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 04:13 PM
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28. Survey USA is the best for state matchups...
Gallup Tracking is the best for looking at the national race.

Rasmussen is pretty good too. He was off a bit because of the turnout figures, but he seems to have corrected that problem.

American Research Group and Zobgy seem to be off significantly at times, so I would take them with a grain of salt.

Usually what I do is check the trends across polls for a specific contest. If three polls(for example, Gallup, SUSA and Research 2000) have Clinton ahead in OH by between 6-8 points, and Zogby has Obama up by 2, then it is pretty safe to assume Zogby is wrong.

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