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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 08:23 AM
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NEW RULE! NEW F***ING RULE!!
Edited on Fri Feb-29-08 08:24 AM by Bicoastal
If you absolutely MUST post some vicious ultra-RW trash about one of our candidates on GDP, please put a disclaimer at the top before you do so, saying, in effect, "These are NOT my views. I'm posting them here to warn you about how conservatives may try to smear our prospective nominee, and I would like to brainstorm ways we can combat said attacks."

And if you're posting them to say, in effect--"Stuff like this is the reason why I don't think (Candidate X) should get the nomination," then you should try taking your head out of your ass before you post the article in the first place. Whether Clinton or Obama, in a few weeks the vicious ultra-RW smears will be flying fast and furious over the Internetz. It's not worth arguing who's going to get it worst. Neither of them are "safe," like old white men such as John McCain. They're both Democrats. They would both get roughly the same enthusiastic welcome from our opposition...

BUT, if you're posting to say, in effect--"Although I don't usually agree with this ugly ultra-Conservative newspaper, internet periodical, or commentator, they make some good points here about (Candidate Y) that really should get looked into..." you may want to start asking yourself if you really are, at long last, posting at the right website.

In closing, I never want to click on to a post comparing Michelle Obama to David Duke ever again. And no, I don't care if this wasn't the OP's opinion--they posted nearly the entire article with only a brief disclaimer at the bottom, saying: (I'm paraphrasing) "How do you think the RW media is going to use this?" Disgraceful. The DU'er was responsible for the content of the thread, and they should know better.

:rant:
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 08:25 AM
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1. Did you protest when the Clinton Campaign was compared to Lynching black men and boys?
Well? Did you?
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 08:28 AM
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5. I never saw such a post, Methy. If I had, I certainly would have Alerted it.
I will even believe that it (briefly) existed here on DU.

But let me ask YOU something--if you dislike such inflammatory statements so much, why would you condone it from your side? Tit for tat? Two wrongs make a right? All's fair in love and war, especially when there are fellow Democrats involved?

Sickening, just sickening. Take the high road once in awhile, please.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 08:34 AM
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7. Condone it? Look at the thread this one is talking about.
Edited on Fri Feb-29-08 08:36 AM by MethuenProgressive
MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Fri Feb-29-08 08:00 AM
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2. Michelle is no David Duke, and the Clinton Campaign isn't akin to Lynching.
But this thread will be taken down, while the other stays up.
I hate what the Obama supporters have done to DU.



http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4818179&mesg_id=4818195

And here's the 29-recs never-locked moderator-approved thread comparing Clinton's campaing to the lynching of black men and boys:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=4761164
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 08:41 AM
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12. Are you talking about H2O man's thread?
If so, WHERE does it talk about lynching?:shrug:
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 08:45 AM
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16. The lyrics?
What do think low lying fruit means?
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 10:30 AM
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32. ??????

Please explain?

:shrug:
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 08:45 AM
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17. Cooley, 'strange fruit' is a metaphor for lynched bodies hanging from trees.
Edited on Fri Feb-29-08 08:55 AM by MethuenProgressive
It's Billie Holiday's most famous recording.
Here's her singing it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4ZyuULy9zs
'Black bodies swinging from Southern trees..."
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 09:21 AM
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27. It's a fucking song about Lynching!
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 09:25 AM
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30. Please tell me you're kidding!
"Blood on the leaves and blood at the root", "Fruit for the crows to pluck", what the Hell do you think the poet is referring to, Bartlett pears, Bing fucking cherries? Sometimes I wonder, what's worse, willful ignorance or downright abject stupidity.
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 08:44 AM
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14. Well both OP's should be deleted. What do you want ME to do? I'm not a Mod.
These rules should apply to the supporters of both candidates. If you feel there's an inherent bias in the system, maybe DU isn't the best place for you to be right now.
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 09:21 AM
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28. Yes Both Ops should be deleted.
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 08:38 AM
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11. Sadly 'twas on the FRONT page.

A composition by H20man. Ugly.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 08:46 AM
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18. Not locking that thread was '08's low point for DU.
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 08:51 AM
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19. I hope you're right. The year is young. (nt)
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 09:25 AM
Response to Reply #11
29. 29 fucking recommends-
I am done with DU if that garbage is allowed to stay up.

WTF?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 09:06 AM
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23. You know I did.
But I've NEVER seen so much as ONE post of yours where you object to racist or right wing filth thrown at the Obamas. You must agree with it.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 10:57 AM
Response to Reply #23
33. Yes, I know for a fact cali objected to it.
And jfyi cali, I've alerted on every racist thread I've seen.
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 09:09 AM
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24. the obamaites are sooooo
shamefully full of themselves. These are facts that WILL FILL the media air waves...WHEN they decide to POUND YOU with them...get use to it IF your guy is the nom.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 12:23 PM
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35. misread your post
Edited on Fri Feb-29-08 12:25 PM by grantcart
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 08:25 AM
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2. Maybe a new forum: General Discussion--Things to Come
or Things to Be Aware Of?????
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 08:26 AM
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3. More simply, do not post RW TRASH. Follow the rules.
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 08:28 AM
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4. I prefer to know my enemy
Keeps down the nasty surprise element.

Left of Cool
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 08:30 AM
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6. I'm getting sick of us Democrats treating our friends like we do our enemies.
If we keep at it, at the end of the day we're going to have a great many enemies and very few friends.
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 08:36 AM
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9. Then one can research the "enemy" elsewhere. If you're supportive of posting RW crap here,
I can't say I'm much surprised, based on your previous posts.
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 09:12 AM
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25. how many times have the Obama fans posted shit about..
Hillary...The Clintons.etc..from DRUDGE??? Daily!
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 08:36 AM
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10. Fine. Read it all you want. But don't bring it here like something stuck
on the bottom of your shoe for us to look at.
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 08:57 AM
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20. By your logic
No postings for anything said by anyone in the MSN because they are all Right Wingers. If you don't believe me, wait until Obama is the nominee and watch how quickly they will all fawn over McCain.

Left of Cool
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 09:03 AM
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22. If you can't tell the difference between right wing trash and a DU
acceptable source, that's a problem with you. Not all mainstream media sources are RW.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 12:16 PM
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34. That's indeed keeping it simple. I like it!
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 08:34 AM
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8. I like the rules we have now, kthxbye. nt
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Saturday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 08:43 AM
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13. Please give us a list of acceptable topics so we don't
get out of line in our posting King Bicoastal.
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 08:44 AM
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15. It's good to be the King.
:)
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bigbrother05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 09:00 AM
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21. Good try, but I see this ever day, someone pleading for
some sanity, they all jump on board for a feel good moment. What I don't understand about these post, that your referring to
are posted, but the Op has no real argument or justification for posting it, if you disagree, your called an idiot, or your spelling is not correct, you know the spiel. Trying to reason, or discuss, read the op. So in my mind it's a tag team of disruptor's with no real purpose
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 09:20 AM
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26. How about ones accusing Clinton of "Lynching" Obama?
Poems about lynching, by long time respected Duers.

DU has sunk to a new and disgusting low.

The Mods need to get off their asses and put a stop to this shit on both sides.
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 09:31 AM
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31. You got your wish- the post is locked as it should be
The one claiming Clinton is Lynching Obama is still up though.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 12:25 PM
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36. good idea
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elixir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 12:28 PM
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37. Garsh, mister Bicoastal, (or is it Bipolar?) don't the mods set the rules? Hmm?
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