Obama Campaign: Clinton Will "Fail Miserably"

[cali]

by dansac
Fri Feb 29, 2008 at 07:41:24 AM PST
SNAP! Oh no you di-n't!

Oh yes they did. On a call that just occured, David Plouffe, Barack Obama's campaign manager said the following:

"They said that they would have huge gains on March 4," Plouffe said. "They’re going to fail and fail miserably."
dansac's diary :: ::
That's right. It's not enough to say that they'll eek by in the popular vote, or even win by a few votes. The Clinton campaign specifically said they would make huge gains on March 4th, and David Plouffe correctly predicts by that measure they will fail.

And the Obama campaign responded specifically to the odious ad that Clinton started running.

Plouffe said the following:

"We don't think the ad is going to be effective at all. Senator Clinton already had her red phone moment -- to decide whether to allow George Bush to invade Iraq. She answered affirmatively. She did not read the National Intelligence Estimate. She still, curiously, tries to suggest that it wasn't a vote for war, but it most assuredly was...

"This is about what you say when you answer that phone. What judgment you show...She, John McCain and George Bush gave the wrong answer."
She had her red phone moment. That's exactly right. That's why every argument about her readiness to be commander-in-chief rings hollow.

Not much left to say except...oh snap!

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/2/29/103620/937/550/466255

That's confidence speaking. They know they're going to do well. And the disinformation yesterday about how they're down in their internal polling is most likely just that- disinformation. This is a campaign that expects to do very well on Tuesday. In fact, I think they expect to wrap it up.

[NightWatcher]

1. haha Burn

[Barack_America]

2. I'm actually not a fan of that statement.

The prediction of"failure" bit, that is.

We've already seen in NH how the sympathy card can help Clinton. :scared:

[TwilightGardener]

8. She has to win by a large margin to start gaining in the delegate game--

unless something really crazy happens, she's not going to succeed. I think that's what he's talking about.

[Barack_America]

12. A statement like that though, could get her a few percentage points...

...which might actually be enough to win in Ohio. And if she wins in Ohio and Rhode Island, I'll bet she soldiers on. Suddenly the story will be "We split March 4, each winning a big state and a little state. The momentum is turning in our favor." They'll conveniently forget about the delegate math. I guarantee it.

[TwilightGardener]

18. I don't think she'll soldier on if she loses either TX or OH--she has

to win both decisively, plus RI, for momentum, and even then, she is NOT going to catch up on delegates, unless she starts blowing out Obama by big margins--and even if she wins a state, that doesn't mean Obama won't win any more states--the party bigwigs will talk to her, I'm sure. She will be pressured out. Romney and Edwards knew when to take the hint.

[Barack_America]

25. But Huckabee didn't.

Releasing ads like this new "terra" one really has me believing that she'll go scorched-earth before she bows out. I would hope that the party bigwigs could convince her to do what's best for the party, but I'm not certain of this.

But I should admit that a part of me is hoping that she soldiers on so that I get the 'Iowa-treatment' here in PA. I'm so selfish. ;)

[TwilightGardener]

26. Huckabee just wants the celebrity and attention. He doesn't have

a day job, and no one takes him seriously--Hillary is a serious politician, she and Bill have an image and legacy to uphold, and I don't think she'll risk her standing in the party if enough party leaders let her know that the time has come to put the party ahead of personal ambition. She'll go out on a high note, and be well-regarded and respected, if she bows out gracefully.

[Eurobabe]

3. better yet, triple Z snap

I love how his campaign jumps right back with the right answer. Time to donate $20.08 :hi:

[papau]

4. Obama must be scared - trying to move the goal posts so he doesn't "lose"

[cali]

7. The difference is he never said he'd win

He didn't rely on a series of firewalls and he didn't discount a single state. It's called effective strategy. Clinton raised expectations. It's awfully hard to lower them once you've done that.

[LSK]

13. color is the water in that alternative universe you live in?

:shrug:

[onehandle]

5. Way to take the high road. Winners shouldn't be bitter.

I bet Obama isn't.

Why are his supporters so bitter?

[cali]

6. Who says they are?

Methinks you're projecting. The Clinton camp has been lashing out at Obama in every conceivable way. Surely you didn't think they wouldn't respond. Senator Clinton has compared Obama to bush and rove, said he shameful, attacked him with the fear card, etc. They're not likely to just let it go unanswered. She wants to play this way, she has to expect to get it served back.

[mohc]

15. Exactly

Accuse the Obama campaign of being overconfident or cocky maybe, but bitterness far better defines a campaign lashing out its rival harder and harder as it becomes more and more evident they will lose.

[onehandle]

19. Obama's folks should be coasting to victory graciously.

I'd rather they not ramp up the trash talk at this point.

I think we have our nominee and he'll need Hillary and her supporter's help very shortly.


I am so ready to see DU get back somewhat to normal. The Clintons are Not the fucking enemy.

[TwilightGardener]

21. Plouffe is specifically addressing the Clinton camp's claims that

they will make "big gains" on March 4th--Plouffe is raising expectations for them, and predicting they'll fall short. He's not saying Obama will win, he's saying Hillary won't win big.

[City Lights]

9. Hillary's firewall is crumbling and there's nothing she can do about it.

A squeaker won't do it for her. No more goalpost moving, Hillary. You win big on Tuesday you earn the right to continue. If not, it's time to, as you've said, get real.

[BenDavid]

10. Obama's argument is too silly by half....McCain touched on it

yesterday and I am hoping that HRC will blast obama hard for being so naive on this matter.

obama needs to understand if (G-d please help us )he gets the presidency that old I was against the war and that shows how smart I am but oh I forget I have voted time and time again to keep the funding for this war that I was against....

Obama needs to understand you have to play the hand he is dealt and the president on jan 20 (L-rd let it be HRC) will decide what to do then. She will take all the info from teh generals on the ground and the joint chiefs and her advisors and will make the decision to begin withdrawal, but she will make the right decision all based upon what her dealt hand is....

Obama comes across like to hell with what the generals on teh ground have to say. What the joint chiefs have to say. I am going to leave Iraq etc etc irregardless of what they say...If obama wants a revolt in the ranks then let his inexperienced ass over rule the generals the joint chiefs....this is what is so damn scary about obama...and as I said McCain touched on it yesterday, and if obama keeps on trying to one up McCain, McCain will not be worried whether obama will play the race card on him or not, McCain will make obama look so damn stupid it will be hurtful.....

[TwilightGardener]

14. Obama's withdrawal plan is indistinguishable from Hillary's--both are

gradual, careful, flexible, and will leave residual forces in place. You are making shit up now.

[cali]

20. Yawn. Your arguments are feeble and stale: In short, they're

garbage and intelletually deficient. Almost all of the most anti-war Senators voted to fund Iraq. Does that mean that Pat Leahy wasn't really against the war? Can you spell bullshit? And like Leahy and Kennedy, Obama has voted for virtually every piece of legislation mandating troop withdrawal and an end to the war. Argue with that, dear.

Obama has already said that the first thing he'll do is meet with the Joint Chiefs to decide the best way to bring the war to an end.

You're pulling crap out of a dark orifice and trying to pass it off as fact. No fucking way am I letting you pull that shit. He has NEVER said that he won't listen to the command on the ground or the Joint Chiefs. Far from it. He's said the opposite.

Lies are disgusting.

And there will be NO President HIllary Clinton. She's done. Over. Finished. Obama will win MORE delegates than Clinton on Tuesday. If she wants to drag it out after that, that's her decision. She'll then become a joke. I doubt she'll do it. So get ready for Hillary's concession speech. And as YOU have said repeatedly you won't vote for Obama, you'll either have to keep quiet or leave.

[snappyturtle]

23. I think all who were against the war were and are between a rock

and a hard place when it comes to funding the war. If he voted against funding he would be labeled as denying the troops the equipment and necessities. When he votes for the funding he is criticized for funding a war he was against from the start.

I also think the war is changing with the entrance of the Turks into the Kurdish lands of northern Iraq. For any candidate to "guess" what they'll do when they get into office is just that...a guess. I find Obama's temperment better suited for making level headed decisions. imho

[classof56]

11. Well, I know a lot of republicans who'll be ecstatic to see Hillary fail.

They hate the woman--she's so unchristian and oh, I dunno, a Dem and of course a woman, not to mention she's married to Bill.

Like another poster said--winners really don't need to be so bitter. I'm pretty sure Obama's gonna make the cut and of course I'll vote for him, but on the other hand, as someone who just embarked upon her 8th decade of life, I'm pretty encouraged that a woman has made it this far on the road to the White House. I honestly thought I'd never live to see the day. I now think I won't ever see a woman prez, but that's okay. We came close!

Tired Old Cynic

[ericgtr]

16. Personally I don't think this is such a good idea

It appears too smug too soon, I like their high road approach much better. Hillary's campaign is doing it to themselves.

[BeyondGeography]

17. "Senator Clinton already had her red phone moment."

Great line.

[K Gardner]

24. I love it !

[Scurrilous]

22. Thanks for posting this!

K & R :thumbsup: