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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 11:21 AM
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Obama has to explain..."I don't regret setting bombs. I feel we didn't do enough." steph miller is
talking about this issue...a caller said..Obama is friends with these people..the woman is from Chicago and said they have a very interesting history..media picking up now...


never heard of these people or Weather Underground u until now..? Obama needs to come clean (answer question) of his many ties to questionable groups.I said this yesterday...He leaves too much for the public AND MSM to distort...IF not true.


http://www.nysun.com/article/71421?access=300609
WASHINGTON — Senator Obama's ties to a former leader of the violent left-wing activist group the Weather Underground are drawing new scrutiny as he battles Senator Clinton for the Democratic presidential nomination.

As an Illinois state senator in 2001, Mr. Obama accepted a $200 contribution from William Ayers, a founding member of the group that bombed the U.S. Capitol and the Pentagon during the 1970s.

Mr. Ayers wrote a memoir, "Fugitive Days," published in 2001, and on the day of the September 11 terrorist attacks, he was quoted by the New York Times as saying: "I don't regret setting bombs. I feel we didn't do enough."

He and Mr. Obama served together on the nine-member board of the Woods Fund, a Chicago nonprofit, for three years beginning in 1999, and they have also appeared jointly on two academic panels, one in 1997 and another in 2001. Mr. Ayers, who was never convicted in the Weather Underground bombings, is now a professor of education at the University of Illinois at Chicago.

The Ayers link, reported on Friday by Bloomberg News, has surfaced in recent days as Mr. Obama tries to add to his lead in the Democratic primary fight. He faces Mrs. Clinton today in a primary in Wisconsin and caucuses in Hawaii, after which they will prepare for critical elections in delegate-rich Ohio and Texas on March 4.

Reached at his office in Chicago yesterday, Mr. Ayers declined to comment on his relationship with Mr. Obama.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 11:22 AM
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1. Thanks, Hannity...
:eyes:

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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 11:25 AM
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5. heard this on STEPH Miller!! This morning...
How will this look to the masses..?
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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 11:28 AM
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7. from a Hannity-fan CALLER....what JUNK. nt
nt
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 11:29 AM
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10. FROM A CALLER READING AN UNNAMED WEBSITE
AND THEY KEPT ASKING FOR THE SOURCE.

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 11:29 AM
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11. Were you concerned that Clinton primary campaign was UNDERWRITTEN by Jackson Stephens
Edited on Fri Feb-29-08 11:45 AM by blm
who was a longtime ally of Poppy Bush and was the man who BROUGHT the criminal terrorist bank BCCI to this country?

When Clinton deep-sixed all the outstanding matters in BCCI throughout the 90s were you concerned about those operatives of Poppy Bush and Stephens and Dubai and Saudi royals who funded GLOBAL TERROR NETWORKS getting let off the hook and continuing their worldwide activities of drugrunning, armsdealing and nuclear proliferation operations?
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 11:34 AM
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21. More right-wing crap. Take it someplace else.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 11:38 AM
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26. Name a RW talker who EVER noted that Clinton protected Poppy Bush and Jackson Stephens
Edited on Fri Feb-29-08 11:49 AM by blm
on BCCI.

And since when did you decide to confuse the BCCI report with the Drudge Report?

And since when did you decide that protecting secrecy and privilege of BushInc throughout the 90s was a good decision by Clinton?


The investigative reporter who broke many stories on IranContra certainly doesn't get quoted by the RW message machine does he?

http://consortiumnews.com/2006/111106.html
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 12:27 PM
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40. Jackson Stephens' involvement is a fact, but thanks for showing your ignorance.
Maybe your right-wing crap is what needs to go.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 11:23 AM
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You Mean This Weather Underground?
Edited on Fri Feb-29-08 11:25 AM by Demeter
http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=48105



Talk about straining at gnats! I'd be more concerned about a little vodka-fest with John McCain, myself!
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 11:23 AM
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2. Green with envy.
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 11:28 AM
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8. try... Green Solutions for
America! She has it right!
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AnarchoFreeThinker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 11:24 AM
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3. another cross-post from FR
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Champion Jack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 11:24 AM
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4. Wow, the desperation is really pathetic
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 11:25 AM
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6. Ridiculous. Is the assertion that one CAN'T change their direction or priorities the way Ayers did
Then close the doors on all those Churches.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 11:28 AM
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9. I guess you missed the part on Stephanie Miller where they said
Edited on Fri Feb-29-08 11:31 AM by LSK
WHAT IS THE SOURCE OF THE INFORMATION????

"Stoll has characterized the Sun's political orientation as "right-of-center,"<4> and an associate of Conrad Black predicted in 2002 that the paper would be "certainly neoconservative in its views."<3> Editor-in-chief Lipsky describes the agenda of the paper's prominent op-ed page as "limited government, individual liberty, constitutional fundamentals, equality under the law, economic growth ... standards in literature and culture, education."<5> The Sun's roster of columnists includes many prominent conservative writers, including William F. Buckley, Jr., Michael Barone, Daniel Pipes, and Mark Steyn.

The Sun is "known for its pugnacious coverage of Jewish-related issues";<6> in particular, it is "a strong proponent of Israel's right to defend itself."<4> It has published articles by pro-Israel reporter Aaron Klein.

The paper courted controversy in 2003 with an unsigned February 6 editorial arguing that protestors against the Iraq war should be prosecuted for treason.<7><8>

According to Scott Sherman, writing in the left-wing magazine The Nation (4/30/07), the Sun is "a broadsheet that injects conservative ideology into the country's most influential philanthropic, intellectual and media hub; a paper whose day-to-day coverage of New York City emphasizes lower taxes, school vouchers and free-market solutions to urban problems; a paper whose elegant culture pages hold their own against the Times in quality and sophistication; a paper that breaks news and crusades on a single issue; a paper that functions as a journalistic SWAT team against individuals and institutions seen as hostile to Israel and Jews; and a paper that unapologetically displays the scalps of its victims."<9>

In the same article, Mark Malloch Brown, Kofi Annan's chief of staff at the United Nations, describes the Sun as "a pimple on the backside of American journalism." According to Sherman, Brown "accepts that the paper's obsession with the UN translates into influence... he admits the Sun "does punch way above its circulation number, on occasion." He goes on to say, "Clearly amongst its minuscule circulation were a significant number of diplomats. And so it did at times act as some kind of rebel house paper inside the UN. It fed the gossip mills and what was said in the cafeterias."<9> Brown's insult was in the context of the Sun's reporting of the UN's central role in the Saddam Hussein Oil-for-Food scandal.

Adweek columnist Tom Messner calls the Sun "the best paper in New York" (5/14/07), noting that "The New York Sun is a conservative paper, but it gets the respect of the left. The Nation's April 30 issue contains an article on the Sun's rise by Scott Sherman that is as balanced an article as I have ever read in the magazine (not a gibe; you don't read The Nation for balance)."<10>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Sun

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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 11:30 AM
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12. it's really hard to understand much..
staph always interrupts..
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 11:31 AM
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14. well I was driving to work in SNOW
Edited on Fri Feb-29-08 11:32 AM by LSK
I seemed to figure it out.

ps: See my edit.
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Melinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 11:31 AM
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13. Obama was 6 YEARS OLD when Ayers did his thing.... the RW thanks you for your lies and hate
Edited on Fri Feb-29-08 11:38 AM by Melinda
*edited to correct age.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 11:32 AM
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15. Although this is another smear by a Hillaroid, I would be more attracted to
Obama if it were true.
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 11:32 AM
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16. Looks To Me That This Was Reported On The Day Of The Wisc & HI primaries.....
it didn't gain any traction then and I doubt that it will now.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 11:32 AM
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17. Hillary has to explain her links to the Black Panthers
From when she worked for a Communist law firm who defended Black Panthers - I DEMAND an explanation! :crazy:
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 11:41 AM
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30. did she really?
:shrug:
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 11:49 AM
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34. She met with them in the middle of the night in an Oakland garage on a hot summer night
:shrug:

I don't need no fucking proof - nobody here does anymore.
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 11:54 AM
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36. lol..
... i know..
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 11:54 AM
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38. That was the one where Kim Jong Il showed up with the cocaine wasn't it?
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 11:32 AM
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18. When you're digging that deep...
Edited on Fri Feb-29-08 11:33 AM by rucky
I think it's safe to say that Obama has been thoroughly vetted.

"Don't need a Weatherman to know which way the wind blows."
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 11:33 AM
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19. Um...this is supposed to be DU. Hannity was railing about this issue last night.
Edited on Fri Feb-29-08 11:34 AM by jefferson_dem
On whose side are you?
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 11:37 AM
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24. do not watch hannity..am moving have no cable!!!
heard this on steph miller this morning and looked it up..am curious how this will play in the press...is picking up media steam...that's all...I HATE SLANT HEAD...btw.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 11:40 AM
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28. Why not join us in telling the press to lay the fuck off the phony guilt-by-association smears...
and focus on real issues?
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 11:33 AM
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20. Sorry, this is bullshit. I'm a Hillary supporter, and I call b.s. on this right-wing crap.
Obama received a $200 contribution in 2001 and now somehow Obama is responsible for the behavior of the Weather Underground?

Bullshit. Please take this right-wing crap someplace else. I'm not buying.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 11:55 AM
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39. ....
:toast:

That was fair, and nice to see from either side.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 02:22 PM
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47. You're welcome! You can return the favor by speaking out against post #11.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 02:26 PM
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48. I'll be honest.
I know so little about most of that stuff that I don't feel right commenting either way. But I have tried to defend Clinton here against a lot of silliness if I know it's silliness, and I'll keep trying.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 02:36 PM
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49. I'm disappointed. I'm not an expert on the Weather Underground
but I know an unfair accusation when I see one. Unfair accusations have been made against both candidates in this thread, but only one of the accusations is being disputed.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 02:57 PM
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50. Sorry to disappoint.
I don't know enough about it to know if it's unfair or not. What do you want me to say? "I don't have a fucking clue what I'm talking about but shame on you"? :shrug:
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 11:36 AM
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22. Isn't this your 3rd inflammatory, flamebait, RW post of the day?
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 11:38 AM
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27. just 2 darlin
...;)
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 11:40 AM
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29. OH JOY ! Keep trollin those RW Hate sites.. can't wait for the next gem! GO HILLARY !
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 12:47 PM
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42. let's see:
racist filth that got locked, and now this lying slime. You are on a roll, but don't forget little hillbot, your gal is done. Can't wait to watch the hillbot heads explode.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 11:36 AM
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23. Stephanie is repeating it right now and making fun of it
Calling it right wing crap.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 11:42 AM
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32. We should all call them out on the right-wing crap. But the OP buys into the bs and smears it here.
...

And I quote: "never heard of these people or Weather Underground u until now..? Obama needs to come clean (answer question) of his many ties to questionable groups..."
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 11:38 AM
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25. Weather Underground
Been around since the 60's Love em!

Left of Cool
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 11:42 AM
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31. Of course they are in cahoots...
they're both black men from chicago...
:sarcasm:
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SheWhoMustBeObeyed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 11:43 AM
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33. NY Sun is a reprehensible RW rag that publishes outright lies
As another poster noted, the Weathermen bombings took place when Sen. Obama was a child.

Here is one of the smear sites promoting the story.

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/funderprofile.asp?fndid=5340&category=79

Note that the current President of the Woods Fund once worked for IL Gov. Jim Edgar, a Republican. This isn't a terrorist organization.

A big smear, but that's what the senator can expect in the months ahead.

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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 11:52 AM
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35. This desperate stretch and spin based on pathetic miscalculation brought to you by...



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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 11:54 AM
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37. another caller just said that there is a video on the internet
Proving George Bush is a lizard person!

:rofl:
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 12:45 PM
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41. take your right wing lying filth elsewhere.
Obama is not friends with Ayers or his wife. He owes no explanations. And your candidate is done. Finished. Over. Kaput. Now take your bag of slime and run along.
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 01:19 PM
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43. Larry Johnson has been following this for WEEKS at NoQuarter...
during all the mindless adoration for Obama....Wait til you see the mugshots of Ayers... there's a lot more, too.... Auchi connection, etc.
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AnarchoFreeThinker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 01:20 PM
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44. Let's just skip the weekend and cut to March 4.
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insanity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 01:22 PM
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45. Bleh, look into WUs history
They never hurt anybody but themselves.

There is a fascinating eponymous documentary about them.
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cottonseed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 01:22 PM
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46. Sadder and Sadder
This kitchen sink thing just isn't going to work for the Hillary campaign. I saw Hannity stretching for this the other night and it was just as pathetic then.
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