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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 11:56 AM
Original message
Hillary Supporters

If only you could see beyond your narrow minded sight and post something tangible
and refreshing about your candidate, I don't think you will get the response you guys
are claiming to receive from Obama supporters. There are so many negative posts from
Hillary supporters that it will take hours just to load them all.

You give as much as you receive, Hillary supporters are always posting RW article
about how the Republicans will eat Obama alive come GE.

You guys are quick to start vile attacks on Obama, but the moment Obama
supporters response you start threatening to quit DU.

The point is, Hillary supporters don't have anything positive to say about their
candidate excerpt to indulge in dirty politics of the past, as so often their
leader. When they attack with vile, Obama supporters hit them back with FACTS...
now what do you do, we all know FACTS is what Hillary don't have in abundance of....

This post will probably get flame, but these are FACTS.
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 12:00 PM
Response to Original message
1. Thank you for your narrow minded opinion.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 12:05 PM
Response to Reply #1
3. Your signature line proves the OP's point
That stinks. :eyes:
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 12:36 PM
Response to Reply #3
36. and the OPs signature line proves his lol
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 01:26 PM
Response to Reply #36
67. I think obamaunderground.god is more obnoxious
than what the OP has in their siggie line. YMMV. LOL.

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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 01:33 PM
Response to Reply #67
73. lol well if you look at my signature line you may understand that
I actually like 'Spokane's' signature line.


I think it is better to win people over than beat them down.

(and by a strange coincidence I was born and raised in Spokane, lol)
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 01:36 PM
Response to Reply #73
78. Well, Thank you,
Edited on Fri Feb-29-08 01:39 PM by spokane
you have permission to use it, and you wouldn't be plagiarizing.

You can xerox this one. B-)
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 01:40 PM
Response to Reply #73
83. then your post came off as confusing and sarcastic
half the time I don't know where you are coming from. :shrug: you are about one post away from ignore.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 02:18 PM
Response to Reply #83
94. lol wasn't meant to be sarcastic although it may be sardonic
his positive signature line was entirely consistent with his positive post just as you observed on the snarky siggy and snarky post.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 03:17 PM
Response to Reply #94
103. okay, whatever.
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 01:36 PM
Response to Reply #67
77. Thanks for emphasizing my point,
you've got to love the Clinton supporters.

:9
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 12:07 PM
Response to Reply #1
8. First post
and all you could come with is abuse, (calling me a skunk) well thank...thank you
for emphasizing my point.

If I was in doubt, well I'm no longer...we have clarity....:woohoo:

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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 12:18 PM
Response to Reply #8
19. No one called "you" anything so get that straight.
Your imagination runs rampant.:scared:

What you said in your post of calling, refering to Democrats as narrow minded, well, yea, that smells. Petunia wanted to share her thoughts.

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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 12:04 PM
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2. Hillary Supporters
are the biggest bunch of name callers-way too quick in accusing anybody who doesn't support "their girl" with names like woman hater, sexist and liar. They are ruining this board, plain and simple. I hope Clinton loses all 4 races Tuesday and has to "suspend" her campaign. I just heard the sore sports are suing the Texas democratic party for also holding caucuses-if they can't win they try and change the rules-what a disgrace that camp is. They sound and act more and more like republicans every day
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 12:36 PM
Response to Reply #2
35. You sound just like some Christians
complaining that atheists are ruining this country.
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 01:12 PM
Response to Reply #35
54. what does that mean
what I am is a person that doesn't like what the Clintons are trying to do to the democratic party-this new lawsuit they are considering is just the latest example of how they are doing everything they can to try and usurp the will of the people
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 01:14 PM
Response to Reply #54
57. I mean that some Obama supporters
here act so put-upon, despite winning. It's like Christians who bitch and moan because they don't have 100% adherence.

You guys are in the overwhelming majority here. Your guy will likely get the nomination. Why do you feel so victimized?
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 01:21 PM
Response to Reply #57
62. because
so many no, TOO many Clintonites here are way too quick to cast aspersions upon those that don't happen to support "THEIR girl" by using hateful words like sexism and accusations of women hating-things the we, as progressives with values stand completely opposite that kind of slime.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 01:23 PM
Response to Reply #62
64. awww
butch up. If you think it's only in one direction, you're just blind.

Yes, like Christians who control 90% of everything, you feel put upon because that minority percentage just refuses to go along with you.

Sorry, I have little pity for the poor, abused majority.
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 01:32 PM
Response to Reply #64
72. yea butch this
stick to the subject at hand and don't try and put me in some theological bag with your perception of what MY beliefs are all about-stop playing the victim card it is very wimpy and whiny-then again you support a candidate that fakes crying to try and garner sympathy votes-it worked once in NH and then we all saw through the ruse
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 01:37 PM
Response to Reply #72
79. You're playing the victim!
Some Obama supporters are constantly whining because people DARE support a different candidate. It's funny, actually.
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 01:42 PM
Response to Reply #79
84. don't try your projecting
bullshit on me...you whine as much as anybody here-poor wittle Hillary the whole world hates her so I have to defend her even if it means my defense hurts the democrats' chance in November
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 01:46 PM
Response to Reply #84
90. LOL
You KNOW that if the tables were turned, you'd still be defending your candidate. These incessant accusations that if we don't capitulate RIGHT FUCKING NOW we're destroying the party is silly.

It's my deeply felt belief that Clinton would be the better candidate. I have every right to espouse that belief here. You'd do the same.
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 02:29 PM
Response to Reply #90
97. I don't know MF
John Edwards was my choice until I read a piece in the Huff post that said "Edwards Campaign doesn't Expect To Win Any Primaries"-this was a week before our primary down here. At that point I looked at my guy and decided he wasn't a viable choice so i switched to who I thought was the next best thing-Barack Obama. I'll tell you this if Clinton had won 11 contests in a row I'd be saying the same thing-that he should drop out for the sake of the party.
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 05:34 PM
Response to Reply #97
111. An article on Huffington Post made you switch candidates? Damn, you are one deep thinker.
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 05:36 PM
Response to Reply #111
112. oh for God's sake
how stupid are you anyway? It was a link to a fucking article asshole
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 05:45 PM
Response to Reply #112
113. Touched a nerve, did I? Sorry.
By the way, there is no link in the post to which I responded.
Glad to hear you were an Edwards supporter. I was a classmate of John's at the University of North Carolina, and also knew Elizabeth's father (Captain Vincent Anania, USN) fairly well. In any case, I remain a supporter. (I must have missed the Huff Post article.)
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 05:56 PM
Response to Reply #113
114. here it is 11 Bravo...this one made me re-think my support
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 01:46 PM
Response to Reply #2
88. YOU ARE JOKING RIGHT ?--NAH --POT MEET KETTLE!!
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 12:05 PM
Response to Original message
4. I think they have some facts behind their opinions.
But the most vocal Hillary posters are the ad hominem, RW-style attackers.
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galadrium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 12:06 PM
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5. Every time I engage a Hillary supporter and mention her support for the war the conversation stops
Hill's supporters know she was on the wrong side of the war. If she is such a great candidate how come they can't defend her support of Bush's war?
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MyNameGoesHere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 12:18 PM
Response to Reply #5
18. It's easy to debate that
but you first have to believe the truth, that once Obama became Senator the votes are identical in the illegal war. No the clear point is that Hillary did not go to floor on bended knee and say "Father forgive me i have sinned" Too bad Obama has NEVER been put into that situation, because aside from being a fad i would really like to know what i am getting in the end. My guess is that if he becomes president we will have a admin worse than Caters ended up. All the ins are there.
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galadrium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 12:23 PM
Response to Reply #18
25. Then why didn't Hill read the entire NIE?
Its too bad Obama wasn't in the senate to counter all the DINOs who voted with the GOP.

Hillary was spouting off GOP talking points better than some republicans.
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MyNameGoesHere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 12:31 PM
Response to Reply #25
31. Too bad indded.
There you go again saying what he "might have done" So far not one vote has supported that fabrication.
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galadrium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 12:36 PM
Response to Reply #31
34. I'd much rather take my chances with what Obama might do as opposed to what Hill has already done
Theres a few thousand dead soldiers that are evidence of Hillary's crapload of experience and judgement.
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MyNameGoesHere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 12:44 PM
Response to Reply #34
42. You blurted out that HRC supporters would stop debating as soon as you asked them that
question. But all i am hearing from you are maybes and might haves. The facts are HRC did vote for the authority, she cannot take it back and it would be politically dumb if she did.

The other facts are this. They voted 99% the same on the war since then
Obama will strike AQ in countries without notifying the host country
he will pull out troops after 16 months. and then not all of them. same as her. So tell me what again are your facts of the major difference?
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galadrium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 12:56 PM
Response to Reply #42
45. Hill has been running for pres since 2001...
She needed to build up her pro-national defense credibility and as a result was saber rattling and spouting off the right wing talking points on Iraq just as fast as Bush. Public opinion was for the war, so Hill jumped on the bandwagon and took her chances with Bush, she didn't even read the whole NIE report.

She put her presidential ambitions ahead of sound decision making. She chose to trust Bush and the GOP on something as significant as war.

Once the Bush misinformation campaign wrapped up and they got their war, public opinion shifted and she's been against it ever since. That's not leadership.
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MyNameGoesHere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 01:00 PM
Response to Reply #45
48. And after i list facts you still write supposition.
WHY is your candidate any different than mine "BASED SOLELY on the facts"
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 01:09 PM
Response to Reply #48
52. Simple
FACTS leaves track records...and her track really does seems fuzzy.

If you can't see that then you're misguided, either intentionally

or deliberately. Take your pick.
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MyNameGoesHere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 01:16 PM
Response to Reply #52
59. Still you have not
countered with one reason why when he ACTUALLY WAS ALLOWED to vote as a senator that he voted identically to HRC?

So maybe you can start again with the "They stop dead at that point" and try to state something other than calling me misguided which i have not came close to doing with you.
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 01:22 PM
Response to Reply #59
63. What did he voted identical with Hillary
on?

:shrug:

Hope you're not point to funding our troops.
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MyNameGoesHere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 01:24 PM
Response to Reply #63
65. EXACTLY.
Edited on Fri Feb-29-08 01:24 PM by LibFromWV
If He is so against the war pull the frigging funding. Put your anti war credentials out there on the line. But no he took the safe road as MOST of them have done.
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 01:30 PM
Response to Reply #65
71. So, you're in favor
of leaving the troops stranded, thats what you're saying, right!

He should have turned his back on the troops so they can say he

voted for taking away funding....what a lame argument.
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MyNameGoesHere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 01:36 PM
Response to Reply #71
76. Oh that red herring huh?
IF YOU ARE THE ANTI war candidate, where are your credentials when you actually get to vote? No one is going to leave them stranded, that is a repuke talking point, they used that against Kerry remember? So once again i need to ask

WHERE ARE HIS SUPPOSED ANTI WAR CONVICTIONS?
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galadrium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 01:38 PM
Response to Reply #76
81. The Kerry argument doesn't hold water
Of course Kerry was complicit in the war too, but he was running against Bush, the man who made it all happen.
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MyNameGoesHere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 01:48 PM
Response to Reply #81
92. Well i see we are getting no where.
he refused to de-fund the war and she voted for it. Of course he couldn't vote for it because he never had a chance. If that is the basis for your argument on this issue then i call it a wash. They are both wrong.
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galadrium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 01:28 PM
Response to Reply #48
70. I remeber one of Bill Clinton's lines in 1992
"Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me."

Hillary voted with Bush and the Republicans on the war when it mattered most. Thats a fact.
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 01:02 PM
Response to Reply #42
50. Her judgment on IWR is flawed
as per primaries right now, she keeps making wrong judgment after another, take a look
at her campaign, see how its run and that should give you an idea of what type of President'
she would make.

This is the reason why I called it blind judgment on her supports.

The IWR vote is not the only vote she has misjudged, there are so many and if you have
been here longer you would have seen some of them.
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MyNameGoesHere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 02:57 PM
Response to Reply #50
102. So because i have not been here "long"
as you say i did not exist or have a brain before then? Is that all you got?
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Asia Expat Donating Member (116 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 12:26 PM
Response to Reply #18
28. He is right, the conversation stops..
Edited on Fri Feb-29-08 12:27 PM by Asia Expat
As soon as you refute their bullshit.

edit: spelling
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Obamaniac Donating Member (297 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 12:06 PM
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6. Spokane, you are totally right...
Have you ever seen a bigger bunch of cry-babies than these Clinton supporters on DU. Fortunately the election will almost be over and the unity policy will come into effect here at DU, the one where you are not allowed to attack the Democratic nominee. Only four more days.

I think these Clinton people have really shown their character through all of this. It doesn't make them look good.
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 12:07 PM
Response to Original message
7. I see it on both sides
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 12:08 PM
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9. You cannot be series!!
Have you missed the attacks on Hillary?? This is inane.
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 12:09 PM
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10. To be fair, the 24/7 OBAMA! OBAMA!! OBAMA!!! Show is tiresome as well.
Obama supporters refuse to question anything their candidate says or does. And frankly, some of the things he's saying and doing just don't add up.

Obama will get hit much harder by the GOP machine if he's the Dem nominee, so perhaps now is the time to drop the Pollyanna attitude, take off those rose colored glasses, and see what's really going on.

As a Democrat, I'm frustrated that I cannot find a candidate that I believe is worth my support. And there are A LOT of Dems who feel the way I do. This is also something that needs to be addressed.

I do not currently support either Hillary or Barack, and I find it disgusting that big money and the media are - once again - electing our President for us.
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 12:14 PM
Response to Reply #10
16. Heres another of those RW scare mongering
attacks....you guys just don't get it...

Obama will get hit much harder by the GOP machine if he's the Dem nominee


My guess is we will cross that bridge once we get there, but, the constant reminding of the
RW attacks makes you wonder....are these actually coming from Hillary supporters or trolls,
you have to admit, the constant post about RW attack can and should be seen as spamming, and
anyone who consistently spam is considered a TROLL.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 12:22 PM
Response to Reply #16
23. I've seen an Obama supporter say the same thing about Hillary. Don't give me that shit.
Edited on Fri Feb-29-08 12:23 PM by xultar
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 02:19 PM
Response to Reply #16
95. You can try to minimize my valid comments if you like,
but it does not change the fact that the Obama camp ain't seen nothin' yet from the RW.

And a check of my posts will prove I am not a troll.

It's the Obama supporters who just aren't getting it.
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bigbrother05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 12:19 PM
Response to Reply #10
21. This is the logic the op is talking about
Edited on Fri Feb-29-08 12:52 PM by bigbrother05
Obama will get hit much harder if he's the Dem nom. Are you clairvoyant
The media is not deciding for me
What is he saying and doing that don't add up?
And I'm sorry you don't have a candidate, but don't judge the ones that have, either side
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 02:21 PM
Response to Reply #21
96. This doesn't add up.
Barack Obama:
"I think you reserve impeachment for grave, grave breaches, and intentional breaches of the president's authority..."


Yet he's voted to continue funding the war, and he's condemned Bush and Cheney for many of the things they've done in office. But that's as far as it goes...when it comes to actually DOING something to protect the Constitution, Barack is...not PRESENT.
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bigbrother05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 02:41 PM
Response to Reply #96
100. He funded the military, so they could get paid
Bush had threatened to shut down the government, if he didn't get what he wanted on the bill, and we all know Bush doesn't care about any Federal employee. AndyA, you have got to realize that politics is slow, and if you don't have the support of the congress, you are spinning your wheels.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 12:37 PM
Response to Reply #10
38. GDP is certainly not 24/7 Obama! Obama! Obama!
Sometimes I try to sneak an anti-Hillary thread in there too. :evilgrin:

The thesis that Obama will get hit harder than Clinton does not ring true, but I just realized that you probably meant that Obama will get hit harder by the GOP than he is getting hit by Clinton or Clinton supporters at DU, and that's clearly true.

The media has certainly been harsher with Hillary and helped to sink Edwards, but they are not all-powerful, and they've done their share of Hillary boosting too. I certainly thought that puff piece on Hillary by NBC right before the Nevada caucus was helpful to her in tone and in timing.

Big money is not really fueling Obama's campaign either. Yes he has a lot of money, but if 10,000,000 people each give $10 that adds up to $100 million. I think Obama has many more small donors than Hillary.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 12:10 PM
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11. Thanks for that extremely broad brush you're using.
Really makes me feel so swell. Since I've done nothing of the kind.
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 12:10 PM
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12. You do realize, don't you, that calling Hillary's supporters out and
then ridiculing them is not going to go very far to heal this divide. There have been more than enough attacks on both candidates and it doesn't help our cause at all.
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KAZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 12:11 PM
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13. It's not ALL Clinton supporters. I've read some very positive posts..
.. by some great Clinton DUers. As an example, I'm an Obama supporter, and I recommended this one. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4818750
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 12:12 PM
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14. No, they're not facts
they're your opinions, viewed through the lens of a bullying asshole.
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 12:18 PM
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17. Your candidate as the bullying asshole
now that I can adhere to.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 12:27 PM
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29. Exactly
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 12:13 PM
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15. Wow! The uplifting and unifying rhetoric just continues to flow. I've never felt so fucking hopeful!
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 12:23 PM
Response to Reply #15
24. You never where

this is you;

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=4767245

Locked


another one;

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=4702431


and another one;

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=4767245

I'm sure you get the picture, nothing positive coming from you as an individual enticing me to support your candidate, now it could be just your attitude that needs looking into, but for the
benefit of the doubt minded folks like myself.....heres to hoping you change.
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 12:32 PM
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32. Where (or should I say "were") to start?
To begin with, you linked to one thread twice. Next, if you don't read both threads as non-partisan jabs at the negativity which has pervaded DU, then your reading comprehension skills are as weak as your grammar. You have no fucking idea which candidate I support.
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 01:07 PM
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51. Now.... now.... now.....
no need for such vulgar language, I might have mispost one of your thread twice
but, my point is much more clearer I'm sure.

You get it....


Ad hominem = ignorance

you're excused.
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 01:19 PM
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60. "I might have mispost"? "My point is much more clearer"? Followed up with an "ignorance" jab?
Is there anything on this planet funnier than unintentional irony?
By the way, I've been an educator for the past 33 years, Ace, and have a pretty fair idea of when someone needs to be excused. It's "time out" for you, little fella.
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 01:27 PM
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68. As an Educator
you have not learned anything then, I presumed you have instead instill your
way or the high on whom ever have been unfortunate to seat in front of
you.

If you can't acknowledge your false pretense posting then you have
couple of cells missing.

I can go on all day and post all your negative threads on Obama, now
caution yourself....before you next post.

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 01:48 PM
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91. "caution yourself....before you next post."--BeFORE YOUR NEXT HYPOCITICAL POST
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 02:09 PM
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93. I usually get paid for remediation, but in your case I'll make an exception.
"You have instead instill (sic) your ..." (instilled, maybe?)
"your way or the high (sic) on ..." (highway, perhaps?)
"unfortunate to seat (sic) in front of you" (sit?)
"you have couple of cells missing" (The article "a" is your friend, use it.)
Next time you accuse anyone of "not having learned anything", try to sound like you are at the very least posting in your native tongue.

No charge.

Now, to the crux of your post. You can "go on all day and post all your negative posts on Obama". Fine, do it. Find a post that could be even remotely construed as being anti-Obama that was not offered in response to an anti-Clinton thread. (And, by the way, Clinton is not my candidate. I supported DK, and then John Edwards.) But please, post the myriad anti-Obama threads which you claim that I have initiated. Shit or get off the pot, chump.
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 04:19 PM
Response to Reply #93
105. Ad hominem = a pus
you responded by attacking my grammer, shame on you, for your info I think faster than I type not that I expect you to understand......besides, this is a message board, but please indulged yourself, don't let me stop you.
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 04:54 PM
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109. Ad hominem = a pus - Hmmm, don't know what to make of that.
But "shame on you"? Stolen from Senator Clinton! Plagiarist! And just for your edification, it's "grammar", not "grammer". Also, "please indulged yourself" makes no sense at all. Not that I expect you to understand.

Now, please, tell me again how I'm ignorant.
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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 12:18 PM
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20. Eh, both sides have their share of jerks posting
Both sides have flamebait posters and both sides have posters who react with outrage at innocuous posts.

There are more Obama supporters on DU than Clinton supporters, so the jerks on our side are probably louder.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 12:21 PM
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22. We post numerous positive threads about Hillary.
Then the threads get shat and pissed on by vicious Obamatrons. Not too much fun putting up with that. But his worshipers seem to have been created in their messiah's image.

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 01:44 PM
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87. and many get infested with vile comments from the Obama camp!
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 12:25 PM
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26. you deserve some of the flames
First, there certainly have been many non-factual attacks on Hillary.

Second, there have been many positive threads about Hillary. Some were kinda empty IMO ("I'm proud to be a Hillary supporter" being the entire message.) or naive ("Hillary has always been a tireless fighter for progressive issues")

Third, there have been many Hillary supporters who have facts to make some of a case for the above. I would say that Hillary is like a glass that is 60% full. I tend to concentrate on the 40% that is empty, but there definitely still is a 60%. She's not quite as bad as either Lieberman or McCain. I might also say that Obama is a glass who is 70% full and Clinton supporters tend to concentrate on the 30%. Now I could see an argument that said it was really 68% for Clinton and only 61% for Obama. What probably gets tiresome from either side are those supporters who think that Obama is 140% full, just as I get tired of the Clinton supporters who seem to think that Clinton is 110% full. Some people on either side want to engage in denial or personal attack or counter-attack ("Obama is just as bad!") if somebody on the other side talks about their candidates real or perceived flaws. That's not a very good defense if the person really thinks there are serious flaws.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 12:26 PM
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27. Oh, Oh, Now THAT's RICH!!!!!!!! ROFLMAO!!!!!!
Oh the stench of hypocrisy is jaw dropping!!!!!!!!!

:rofl:

Never in my LIFE have I witnessed more dirty smears than I've seen thrown at Hillary here. But you're preaching to the Hillary side????? :wow:

My my, that is just too funny!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 12:29 PM
Response to Reply #27
30. YOU of all should not indulge into this,
you're one of the ring leaders when it comes to attacks.

we agree on that right!

:smoke:
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 12:38 PM
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39. Wrong. I Have Every Right To. And I've Never Attacked Obama Once. So Check Yourself Pal.
Ring leaders? You might want to try being a bit more accurate in the future before posting such ignorance. I've never attacked either candidate. To sit here and claim I have, is really quite silly.
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 12:55 PM
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44. Ok! maybe not an attack monger
but can we agree that some of your post have been wee bit negative....Pal!
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 01:11 PM
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53. So You Went From Calling Me The Ring Leader Of Attacks On Obama, To Someone Who
hasn't attacked him at all, but instead at times may have been a wee bit negative.

Yeah... You don't look like a fool now, pal. :hi:


And no, all I've done for both candidates is be fair and objective, like I am with everything else, always.
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 01:20 PM
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61. Get a grip,
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 01:35 PM
Response to Reply #61
75. I've Got A Firm Grip, As Always.
No where in that post does it attack Obama. You may disagree with its premise, but it still is in no way an attack on him.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 01:28 PM
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 01:38 PM
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80. Awwwww, Did A 3rd Grader Tell You To Call Me That? And Guess What Pal:
No one's asking anyone to keep track of every position. But is it wrong to ask that if you're going to attack someone in regards to a position and smear them, that you actually get their position straight? Yeah, see, that's called being responsible and stuff. It doesn't make me self-important to defend against an unfair attack made on me. Pretty ignorant to try and assert such.
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 01:40 PM
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82. yea
and you're a model citizen of responsibility-we can only hope to someday be just like you
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 01:43 PM
Response to Reply #82
86. Not Sure You Have The God Given Tools.
But I won't rob you of your hope. :hi:
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 01:46 PM
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89. I got a tool for you
.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 12:37 PM
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 12:41 PM
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41. yeah, it's a dirty smear to say that Hillary DID vote for the IWR
but it's not a dirty smear to speculate that Obama WOULD HAVE voted for the IWR.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 12:45 PM
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43. Depending On Delivery, Neither Is A Smear.
The fact that you are trying to make my OP of the other day a smear against Obama somehow, is actually quite pathetic. Get a grip.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 02:40 PM
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99. it depends on your definition of smear
Unfortunately, my dictionary only gives synonyms, rather than a definition. One synonym is "discredit". Well, since "opposition to the war" is creditable, then claiming that Obama would not oppose the war if he had been in Hillary's position certainly does "discredit". Further, since the speculation cannot be proven one way or another, the claim cannot be said to be made on facts. Granted, caving on Schiavo is not to his credit, and he admitted that, but that hardly proves that he would have caved on the war the way that Hillary actually did.

It's pretty obvious that both Hillary and Obama supporters saw it for what it was - a manufactured negative about Obama.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 02:47 PM
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101. You're Reaching.
Try not to hurt yourself.

Not a thing about that OP was a smear. Get a grip please.
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 12:34 PM
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33. Thanks for your concern
You may go back to your regularly scheduled lynching posts now.

RL
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elixir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 12:39 PM
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40. You just wasted one post perpetuating the thing you want to stop. we have plenty to post that's
positive.

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StevieM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 12:57 PM
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46. Obama's whole campaign has been about repeating RW talking points trashing the Clintons
On health care, on the supposedly viscious Clinton attack machine. He's run a dishonest, hateful campaign and he won't get my vote in November.

Steve
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 01:34 PM
Response to Reply #46
74. then I guess come Tues, you have a week to adjust your attitude
or your ass is off DU.

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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 03:34 PM
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104. Nope
there's no requirement that members vote for Obama in November, no matter how much you'd like to kick out people who disagree with you.
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 12:58 PM
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47. I like how you don't generalize..
:eyes:
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 01:01 PM
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49. oooo you said FACTS, therefore it must be TRUE.
:eyes:
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BooScout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 01:14 PM
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55. And don't you feel just a tad hypocritical?
Let's see.........an attack post calling others on their alleged attacks. Hmmmmmmm:eyes:
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 01:16 PM
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58. Americans want a president who is more focused on terrorists than on lobbyists.(eom)
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 01:43 PM
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85. GO LECTURE you OWN group!
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 02:35 PM
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98. I'm a Hillary supporter.
Everytime someone tries to post facts - Obama supporters enter with insults and lame one-liners.
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Reality Check Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 04:21 PM
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106. ? This is Obama Undeground where Hillary is slandered on daily basis...
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 04:44 PM
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 04:49 PM
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108. wow, brand new hillbot
This is the Democratic Underground, not what you perceive it to be as per other opinion.
Hillary whines so many times it makes me churn just watching her, at the debate she cries for being asked a question, then blate out about Obama getting favors from the press, truth is, the media knows all about Hillary and her double dealings, she is part of the status quo.
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 04:55 PM
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110. THANK YOU MODS!
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