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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 12:12 PM
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ARG: Obama up in Texas by 7; Clinton up in Ohio by five
For what it's worth.

Texas: 51-44 (Obama over Clinton)
Ohio: 50-45 (Clinton over Obama)

www.americanresearchgroup.com
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 12:31 PM
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1. Note the trends
Favorable to Obama in both states.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 12:32 PM
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2. All Obama has to do is split the delegates evenly....
...

The vote percentages don't matter so much.... it's all about the delegates.
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 12:32 PM
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3. Texas and Ohio don't count anymore
It's Rhode Island and Vermont now.
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 12:33 PM
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4. ARG = Anyone's Random Guess
They aren't worth much, particularly this year.

I'll believe it when I see the results on Tuesday.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 12:35 PM
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6. snap! check out this graph from pollster.com
Edited on Fri Feb-29-08 12:37 PM by 48percenter
Who got's da mo??

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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 01:03 PM
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16. except that there polls are pretty consistent for TX and OH with most everybody else this time.
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 10:39 PM
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24. ARG was the closest (by a far margin) over others for Wisconsin
I agree with yuor about ARG (Any Random Guess) but less we forget ARG was the closest pollster when it came to WI when all others were saying it was in the single digit leads...Obama won by a landslide, as ARG predicted it would.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 12:33 PM
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5. In both polls rethugs and indies are breaking heavily for Obama
He loses Democrats in both states. Of course, it is ARG but we have 36 states worth of data that shows that Obama is losing the Democratic vote and being put over the top by rethugs and "independents".
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LordJFT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 12:36 PM
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7. You really don't want to win in november do you?
Since you seem to only care about who democrats vote for.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 12:49 PM
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11. Joe L is that you?
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 12:52 PM
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13. I am going to be so happy when Obama win's this nomination...
You will be singing a completely differnt tune. It will be great.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 01:05 PM
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17. probably not. Some of the most spiteful will just take their marbles home
or vote for McCain.
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 01:58 PM
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19. your assuming that some still have their marbles. N/T
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 01:38 PM
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18. For sure
And I hope you do the same if Hillary pulls off an upset. :)
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LordJFT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 10:26 PM
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23. Actually Lieberman's apparently more like you, he doesn't want the dems to win in november
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 12:38 PM
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9. Hey I Offered To Give You A Star If You Support The Dem Nominee
And you never replied to my generous gift. Why is that? You know not supporting the Dem candidate in the GE is a solid reason for the mods to ban you. Have a blessed day! :hi:
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 03:44 PM
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22. Crickets
Hm. Quite odd I know you are still replying in this thread. Hm.
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NoBorders Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 01:01 PM
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15. So who are these 'Dems' who would rather vote for McCain than Obama?
Interesting...

http://pewresearch.org/pubs/750/obama-lead-problems

"Overall, 20% of white Democratic voters say they would vote for McCain if Obama is the Democratic nominee. That is twice the percentage of white Democrats who say they would support McCain in a Clinton-McCain matchup."

Why should we fault Obama for picking up Rep/Ind voters, but not fault Clinton for picking up DINO's?

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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 12:36 PM
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8. I actually think this is right.
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kennetha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 12:48 PM
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10. This Poll has Hispanics and AA's almost even % of electorate
It has AA's at 22% of electorate and Hi at 26% or electorate, with O winning AA's overwhelmingly 86 - 8 and C winning Hi's underwhelmingly 55-41. I think if these % hold for election day, Obama may well win. But I''ll be surprised if Hispanic turn out barely beats AA turn out and astounded if C's margin isn't more like 20% - 25% than 10% - 15%. If Hispanics make up 30% of electorate and Hillary takes 60% plus, I think she can survive Barack's surge.
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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 01:59 PM
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20. The turnout looks about right
22% and 26% is right around what everybody else is projecting.
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LordJFT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 02:37 PM
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21. Obama's been gaining with hispanics
I wouldn't be surprised if he does even better among them then this poll predicts.
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 12:51 PM
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12. it's already over
she has to beat him by 20 to have a small shot.

Winning by five isn't going to cut it.
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 12:54 PM
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14. It isn't over until the Fat Lady sings. Obama supporters, Obama is down by 30 in TX! Get out there
and WORK!
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 11:55 PM
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25. Glad.
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