"Shame on you" : Verdict from the polls

[grantcart]

It has now been 6 days since HRC took the stage and abruptly changed the tone of her campaign with a strident "shame on you Barack" harangue that was put by many media in close juxtaposition to the "I am proud to be here with you" sentiment of the debate in Texas just days before.

Here we can see the general reaction in the polls to the campaign and whether or not it was a helpful gambit:

[Political Heretic]

1. No one should have needed polls to tell them how massively stupid her stunt was.

I've never run a national campaign, but from my limited campaign experience I was still staring at the screen when she came out to do this with my jaw on the floor, thanking god I wasn't in charge of trying to "spin" that nightmare into something positive for her team.

[grantcart]

2. I think it will go down almost as a 'maccaca' moment

It would strike many males as the kind of tone your mother used with you when she found out what you did on Halloween.

I think the campaign ended at that point

[geiger]

16. I think the worst moment was when she made reference to the SNL skit

using parody to speak to some perceived reality in her head. THAT was painful!

[tekisui]

23. The list of embarassing blunders is so long for this campaign.

How do you chose THE worst?

Me-I think is was hiring Mark Penn and Howard Wolfson.

[geiger]

28. and paying them what she has; Chelsea would have done a better job!

[Major Hogwash]

24. Just think how she would have run a general campaign against McCain this fall.

It would have been a freaking nightmare.

[grantcart]

3. Rasmussen now has Ohio - Clintno 47 Obama 45

In Ohio, Hillary Clinton has maintained a constant level of support over the past week, but Barack Obama is rapidly gaining ground in her rear view mirror.

The latest Rasmussen Reports poll, conducted Thursday night, shows Clinton earning 47% of the Ohio Democratic Presidential Primary vote. That’s little changed from the 48% level of support the former First Lady received last Monday night and in the previous poll conducted last week.

[AGirl]

5. Hillary is 8 point ahead in Ohio in one of the latest polls.

[grantcart]

7. You are right there is some differences in the polls but they are all getting tighter

Is that the fox poll? (They have been very good so far this year)

The significance of the Rasmussen Poll is that they have been doing a daily poll so that even if they are not accurate it shows the movement (as its the same pollster using the same methodology)

quote
However, while Clinton’s support has remained stable, Barack Obama has been steadily inching up in the poll. Obama now earns support from 45% of Ohio’s Likely Primary Voters. That’s up from 43% last Sunday, 40% last week and 38% the week before.
unquote

Other polls are here. Zogby is also showing 2 points
http://www.pollster.com/08-OH-Dem-Pres-Primary.php

In any case even if Hillary wins by 8 points it will still mean that the delegate count will not be seriously effected because delegates are divided proportionally not by state but by Congressional Districts and you need atleast 65% to get really favorable delegate break (i.e. 4-2 in a 6 delegate district).

I know it can be very difficult when your delegate isn't winning.

[Qutzupalotl]

8. Also factor in the enthusiasm level on both sides.

That's what gets people to the polls no matter what the weather.

[bigbrother05]

4. Mark Penn

Doin a Heck of a Job:rofl:

[grantcart]

9. I just wish we could have gotten a tape of him an Ickes arguing about

it before hand - also a tape of them practicing it - "No Hillary you have to say it louder louder we need more cow bell"


Can't wait until everybody writes their book about the campaign and then we get to see them take each other apart in detail

[bigbrother05]

12. We need more cow bell

that is priceless
I would buy that book
It's going to be a bloodbath:rofl:

[grantcart]

21. i wish i had the graphic for it lol

[bigbrother05]

22. Just shared the cowbell story with my husband

now both of us can't stop laughing

Edit to add:

This is what we see -

URL="http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=33200w0&s=3"]View My Video

[bigbrother05]

25. Added ours to #22

[bigbrother05]

13. Now I've got that image in my head

Shame on you

[TexasObserver]

6. It's all over but the shouting and the crying. She'll do both until it's over.

[superkia]

10. In my opinion, she will continue her typical style of politices...

just to hurt Obamas chances in the GE or to make it a closer GE so if McCain and the thugs steal it, the American public wont catch on...like bush did before. I think Clinton was the elites first choice because she has a D in front of her name and they think thats enough to calm the American people as they continue their ways...yay we have a D, everything will be ok.

My guess is that McCain is their second choice and they will do whatever is necessary to...take care of Obama. Ive already seen mention of an Obama president needing more security because racists would make an attempt on his life and that just makes me think of JFK. Its bad enough during the campaign they had that incident where the secret service had the Dallas police stop using metal detectors and searching bags for weapons because they wanted to speed up the line and felt the line looked like peaceful people????What the fuck!

If somehow Obama were to win it all, they will either take him out, scare him or his family ( anthrax ) or make sure that they do everything possible to make our lives worse during his 4 years so that Clinton could then become their number one again. I can see the system allowing/arranging another false flag incident like they did before so they can blame Obama for it all. Now, I know that the American people have been speaking with their votes but I still fear that the corruption will give it to Clinton or worse...McCain.

Again, just my opinion.

[TexasObserver]

11. Hillary needs to change her name to ...

ME! ME! ME!

We have never had a presidential candidate the past 40 years who was so thoroughly only in it for herself. It's all about Hillary. She's gone from sad to pathetic.

[L0oniX]

15. More like "I" as in the beginning of the song "Crazy Train" by Ozzy Osborne.

[TexasObserver]

19. Or, Patsy Cline's tune ... CRAZY ....

[superkia]

26. And then take out his laugh and place hers there instead.NT

[IndianaGreen]

14. Even if Obama wins Texas, Hillary will carry the fight to Denver

She will challenge in court the Texas delegates rules, and she will ask to have FL and Mi seated. If you thought Bush v. Gore was bad, wait until you see Clinton v. Dean.

[TexasObserver]

18. Oh, I agree. She's in it to ruin it. She's well on her way to becoming ...

... the most despised turncoat Democrat since John Connally.

[grantcart]

27. John Connally??

you have Lieberman and then you have



atleast John was willing to take a bullet for the team first

[backscatter712]

17. The voters have spoken.

They've concluded that Hillary Clinton is a

[GeorgeGist]

20. The ol' shame on you stunt ...

needs updating.

Fool me once, shame on you.
Fool me twice, phuck you and your wife, Billy boy.

[kerry0404]

29. People always assume that any poll jump is due to some statement by a candidate

That trend is a long-term trend, and as you can see, Obama has continued to go up. Are you saying that the trend continued just because Hillary made the "shame on you" statements? Voters don't care. Cause and effect is not as simple as you think.