So by his own standards, Obama admits he doesn't represent "real change."

[journalist3072]

Today, Obama said "Real change isn’t about changing your position to fit the politics of the moment."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4834985&mesg_id=4834985

Ok...so let's take him at his word: "Real change isn't about changing your position to fit the politics of the moment."

And now, let's go to the transcript! Specifically, the transcript of Obama on Meet The Press, as he tried to explain away remarks he made about Iraq in 2004:

MR. RUSSERT: You were not in the Senate in October of 2002. You did give a speech opposing the war. But Senator Clinton’s campaign will say since you’ve been a senator there’s been no difference in your record. And other critics will say that you’ve not been a leader against the war, and they point to this: In July of `04, Barack Obama, “I’m not privy to Senate intelligence reports. What would I have done? I don’t know,” in terms of how you would have voted on the war. And then this: “There’s not much of a difference between my position on Iraq and George Bush’s position at this stage.” That was July of `04. And this: “I think” there’s “some room for disagreement in that initial decision to vote for authorization of the war.” It doesn’t seem that you are firmly wedded against the war, and that you left some wiggle room that, if you had been in the Senate, you may have voted for it.SEN. OBAMA: Now, Tim, that first quote was made with an interview with a guy named Tim Russert on MEET THE PRESS during the convention when we had a nominee for the presidency and a vice president, both of whom had voted for the war. And so it, it probably was the wrong time for me to be making a strong case against our party’s nominees’ decisions when it came to Iraq.


Again, let's again this specific quote from Obama:

Now, Tim, that first quote was made with an interview with a guy named Tim Russert on MEET THE PRESS during the convention when we had a nominee for the presidency and a vice president, both of whom had voted for the war. And so it, it probably was the wrong time for me to be making a strong case against our party’s nominees’ decisions when it came to Iraq.

Source: http://broadcatching.wordpress.com/2008/01/08/obama-no-difference-between-me-bush-on-iraq/


In other words, Obama admitted to Tim Russert that it was politics that caused him to tailor his remarks about Iraq in 2004: he did not want to hurt John Kerry and John Edwards in the general election.

So by Obama's own standard, he doesn't represent real change.

[Skittles]

1. mmmmmmmm

the conclusion I draw is that he plays politics which, er, is what a politician does....this is why I don't find Obama to be "special"

[The_Casual_Observer]

2. I guess it's hard to pin the guy down on what he really believes.

It all seems to be dependent on the circumstance.

[babylonsister]

3. Ha! I believe that's what he's accusing Clinton of, but nice try. nt

[thunder rising]

4. The Hillary snakes are out ... must be hard for them, the underside of rocks are sooo cold

[journalist3072]

5. Facts don't suit you well, do they? eom

[guidod]

6. I don't think it's all Hillary snakes...

...I think DU has a large amount of trolls. :)