Dallas Morning News gets hold of Clinton caucus "training materials,"

[Pirate Smile]

Texas caucus hardball

The Dallas Morning News gets hold of Clinton caucus "training materials," in which supporters are instructed to fight for procedural control of caucuses.

The materials say in part, "DO NOT allow the supporter of another candidate to serve in leadership roles."

It goes on to say, "If our supporters are outnumbered, ask the Temporary Chair if one of our supporters can serve as the Secretary, in the interest of fairness.

"The control of the sign-in sheets and the announcement of the delegates allotted to each candidate are the critical functions of the Chair and Secretary. This is why it is so important that Hillary supporters hold these positions."

Some of the moments on the ground in Nevada showed how crucial technical control can be, particularly when -- there, as expected in Texas -- nobody has any idea what the rules are. Really makes you love the caucus process.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0308/Texas_caucus_hardball.html

Edit to add comment from that thread:

As someone who has done voter protection as a volunteer for the Obama campaign, I have to say how proud I am to support a candidate whose main instruction to us was to make sure that all people, regardless of party membership or choice of candidate, got the opportunity to vote if legal to do so. As someone who has done voter protection for caucuses in the past, I will also point out that the only reason why it would be important to control the sign-in sheets is if you wanted to prevent people from signing in.

Posted By: Vote Protector | March 01, 2008 at 09:08 PM

edit to add a link to the Dallas Morning News Trailblazers blog

http://trailblazers.beloblog.com/archives/2008/03/caucus-strategy.html#comments

[NightWatcher]

1. I think that the Obama-Machine is ready for it

they have a great group of people on the ground

[Horse with no Name]

50. The Obama machine reminds me of the republican machine

I wonder why that is....

[yourguide]

55. The HRC machine is a lot more like the rethug machine...

broken, hateful, and glad to steal votes.

[Horse with no Name]

59. Nope.

Didn't I read about some of obama's congressional disciples threatening OTHER black members of congress to vote for obama OR ELSE?
Democrats are known for many things but they have NEVER been noted for their organization. Only the republicans lockstep.
As I said....the obama campaign reeks like a republican machine.

[yourguide]

70. ROFL

riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. ok then, head on over to delegatehub and facthub and keep getting your "news"

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[Horse with no Name]

84. Learn to READ

It's hard for you obamatrons to let hard truths sink in...but just try...
but for now...off you go to the pile. You add nothing to the discussion.

[yourguide]

89. blah blah blah...

I heard Hillaryis44.org is really enlightening too.

By the way, I supported Edwards before he dropped out - now seeing what an asshole supporter he has in you I am glad I went with Obama.

[anamandujano]

132. Now you tell me, I just wasted almost an hour on this nut.

[cali]

148. I suggest you hillybots learn how to read for comprehension

as a prime examply of a hillybot, you should slowly read the info in the OP- and then read it again. It is your dear hilly's campaign that is acting in very repuke manner. now scuttle off and prepare for the final implosion of hilly's campaign.

[Zhade]

76. Any proof, or are you making shit up like your candidate?

I can't wait until she loses, so her asshole supporters will shut the everloving fuck UP already.

[Horse with no Name]

82. Oh I CANNOT WAIT for the truths to catch up to the hype that is obama

I just hope for the sake of the party it happens BEFORE they crown him. If it happens afterward...we are ALL fucked because of all of the idiots that followed the Pied Piper without asking the hard questions.
The media has punked you all....and most are too dumb to realize it.
The story about the Congressional Black Caucus was on here Thursday. I can't help it if you only CHOOSE to read the good things about your candidate. The truth is out there and it shall set you free if you would only open up your fucking eyes and ears.

[yourguide]

87. And I just hope for the sake of not only

the united states but the planet that the voters see right through yet more of her shady tactics and kick her to the curb where the rest of the garbage lies...

[anamandujano]

106. Right, she forced him to deal with Rezko. She's all powerful.

[yourguide]

114. oh stop

she voted for the war, has taken over a million in PAC contributions, almost a million in lobbyist contributions, oh and has her own little Norman Hsu to be concerned about.

as I said, her campaign tactics belong on the curb with the rest of the trash.

[anamandujano]

117. Let's talk Monday night, shall we?

The trial starts and we should have some news.

Over and out for now.

[yourguide]

120. ROFL

considering Patrick Fitzgerald has already cleared him, and he hasn't had enough contact with him to even be called as a witness I doubt there will be much to talk about.

but maybe you can find some more information on it in the urban dictionary too.

[anamandujano]

125. You're easily entertained.

There are always surprises in trials.

[yourguide]

126. And you're easily led...

apparently everything on the internet is true, including the entries in the urban dictionary.

[flyarm]

143. please provide a link or article where Fitz has cleared Obama..i have asked this over and over from

you obamites..and not one of you have been forthcoming on Fitz already cleared Obama..
first of all to me when you say that it proves you know very little about Fitzgerald..and you know very little about these types of prosecutions.

and are more than a little naiveand or are trying to decieve ...so please provide backups for your statement Fitzgerald has already cleared Obama..

fly

[Hepburn]

140. Hint.....

....witness lists were exchanged long, long ago. Obama is NOT on any witness list. So exactly what fucking news were you expecting to come out about Obama?

GMAB...you know have no clue how trials are run and you think that something is gonna come out in a trial about Obama and he has not been subpoenaed to testify??? And is not on anyone's witness list???

LMBO......:rofl: You just made a MAJOR fool of yourself, IMO.

[anamandujano]

91. It will hit before the convention, god willing.

[stillcool]

94. I think it's that "organizing" thing...

Vote of Confidence
Chicago Magazine / January 1993 / Vote of Confidence
A huge black turnout in November 1992 altered Chicago's electoral landscape—and raised a new political star: a 31-year-old lawyer named Barack Obama.
By Gretchen Reynolds

A huge black turnout in November 1992 altered Chicago's electoral landscape-and raised a new political star: a 31-year-old lawyer named Barack Obama.

In the final, climactic buildup to November's general election, with George Bush gaining ground on Bill Clinton in Illinois and the once-unstoppable campaign of senatorial candidate Carol Moseley Braun embroiled in allegations about her mother's Medicare liability, one of the most important local stories managed to go virtually unreported: The number of new voter registrations before the election hit an all-time high. And the majority of those new voters were black. More than 150,000 new African-American voters were added to the city's rolls. In fact, for the first time in Chicago's history-including the heyday of Harold Washington-voter registrations in the 19 predominantly black wards outnumbered those in the city's 19 predominantly white ethnic wards, 676,000 to 526,000.
---------------------------------------------
None of this, of course, was accidental. The most effective minority voter registration drive in memory was the result of careful handiwork by Project Vote!, the local chapter of a not-for-profit national organization. "It was the most efficient campaign I have seen in my 20 years in politics," says Sam Burrell, alderman of the West Side's 29th Ward and a veteran of many registration drives.

At the head of this effort was a little-known 31-year-old African-American lawyer, community organizer, and writer: Barack Obama. The son of a black Kenyan political activist and a white American anthropologist, Obama was born in Hawaii, received a degree in political science and English literature from Columbia University, and, in 1990, became the first black editor of the Harvard Law Review. In 1984, after Columbia but before Harvard, Obama moved to Chicago. "I came because of Harold Washington," he says. "I wanted to do community organizing, and I couldn't think of a better city than one as energized and hopeful as Chicago was then." He went to work for a South Side church-affiliated development group and "was heartened by the enthusiasm." But barely three years later, Washington died, and Obama, convinced he needed additional skills, enrolled at Harvard Law School. The African-American community he left, rent by political divisions and without a clear leader, went into a steep decline. By 1991, when Obama, law degree in hand, returned to Chicago to work on a book about race relations-having turned his back on the Supreme Court clerkship that is almost a given for the law review's top editor-black voter registration and turnout in the city were at their lowest points since record keeping began.

Six months after he took the helm of Chicago's Project Vote!, those conditions had been reversed.
http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/January-1993/Vote-of-Confidence/

http://www.prospect.org/cs/articles?article=the_year_of_the_organizer
A History of Organizing

As a community organizer for three years in Chicago in the late 1980s, Obama learned the skills of motivating and mobilizing people who had little faith in their ability to make politicians, corporations, and other powerful institutions accountable. Working with churches and neighborhood groups, Obama taught low-income people how to analyze power relations, gain confidence in their own leadership abilities, and work together to improve their housing, schools, and other basic services.

"What if a politician were to see his job as that of an organizer," he asked a local newspaper at the time, "as part teacher and part advocate, one who does not sell voters short but who educates them about the real choices before them?"

Since embarking on a political career, Obama hasn't forgotten the philosophical and practical lessons that he learned on the streets of Chicago and that are now central to his campaign for the White House.
---------------------------------------
A key tenet of community organizing is developing face to face contact with people so that they forge commitments to work together around shared values. Organizers are not social workers. Their orientation is not to "service" people as if they were clients, but to encourage people to develop their own abilities to mobilize others. They help people turn their "hot" anger into disciplined action. Community organizers also distinguish themselves from traditional political campaign operatives who approach voters as customers through direct mail, telemarketing, and canvassing urging them to support their candidate as if they were selling soap.

This approach is reflected in how Obama's campaign has integrated itself into local communities. In Iowa, for example, campaign organizers, both paid staff and volunteers, were required to help in community recycling projects, tree planting and garbage pick-up -- making themselves available for the day-to-day tasks required to enhance the neighborhoods they were in.

[Horse with no Name]

116. funded by "shady" characters

don't know about you...but ORGANIZED crime is ORGANIZED too.

[stillcool]

128. wow that 1992

Get out the vote thing? All those Protests? All the mob? Damn.

[Donna Zen]

108. The primarily right-wing site Politico

has updated their slanted story twice, thus, debunking your post. Now you may continue to spread this lie, or you may apply some simple logic. First, both Obama's Team and Clinton's Team are out looking for delegates. Second, when the district has voted a certain way, it is reasonable that the voters would want their super to reflect their will. There is no law that says that must be the case, it is just that there will certainly be pressure. And finally, the Clintons have a long established machine while Obama is the new kid on the block. He is establishing loyal supporters, and I suspect that some Democrats in office dislike the weight the Clintons have accrued. Nevertheless, the comparison is David and Goliath.

I'm in contact with a Super Delegate because she contacted me and other committee members. Currently, she is trying to do the right thing for our state which voted overwhelming for Obama. No decision has been made.

No. Obama is not a republican. And I don't think that machine politics have a record of serving the nation well.

[catgirl]

118. I remember Hillary threatening her donors

They were to ONLY donate to her, or else....

[Diane R]

2. I am so tired of this woman. A Hillary supporter was Sec of our Wn. St. caucus, count made no sense

[blogslut]

3. Ben Smith sure likes to stir pots

n/t

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

54. Heres the Dallas Mng News Article: "Tough Caucus Strategy"

Tough Caucus Strategy

3:31 PM Sat, Mar 01, 2008

Hillary Clinton and her campaign is pushing for precinct captains for Texas' 8,000 Democratic polling places. They need to train folks to lead the caucus sessions that will determine more than 60 delegates after the primary voting is over.

In training materials being handed out by the Clinton campaign, it is clear that they want to control those caucus sessions.
The materials say in part,

"DO NOT allow the supporter of another candidate to serve in leadership roles."

It goes on to say, "If our supporters are outnumbered, ask the Temporary Chair if one of our supporters can serves as the Secretary,
in the interest of fairness.

"The control of the sign-in sheets and the announcement of the delegates allotted to each candidate are the critical functions of the Chair and Secretary. This is why it is so important that Hillary supporters hold these positions."

Here is the link to the original article

[blogslut]

109. Yes, I saw that

I'm just saying this Ben Smith seems to be assigned to, or just morbidly interested in, the Clinton/Obama race. One day it's some scurvy piece about skullduggery ala Clinton, next day it's nefarious news about Obama. I just think it's interesting that a blogger from NY Daily news gets a sweet job at the "hottest" new political website on the net and he's all hooked in.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

4. in other words try to steal the election

Nevada

[BeatleBoot]

5. Someone needs to deal with the Republicans that will be voting...

Or doesn't Obama want that?

Since he's a Democrat and such.

http://republicansforobama.org/?q=node/359


E-mail to send to Texas Republicans


Attention All Texas Republicans and Independents!!

On March 4th, Texas Republicans and Independents will have an opportunity to end Hillary Clinton's (and Bill's) presidential ambitions once and for all!

Since Texas has on open primary, Republicans and Independents should sign in at their polling place and request a Democratic ballot. They should then vote for Barack Obama. Even James Carville admits that if Hillary loses Texas, "she's done!" Republicans can help make this a reality!!! Just think, no more Clintons in the White House!

Voting Democratic this one time will have NO effect on your ability to vote in the next Republican primary or obviously on your vote in November. Since John McCain has the Republican nomination locked up, voting for McCain or Huckabee at this point will have no effect on the outcome on the Republican side.

After you vote during early voting or on March 4th, you ARE NOT done! Report back to your regular polling place at 7PM on March 4th to sign the Barack Obama list for caucus delegates. In a little known Texas voting quirk, 67 delegates to the Democratic convention will be seated because of these caucuses. This is a full one-third of the total number of Texas delegates. For Hillary to lose, she has to lose the primary votes AND the caucus votes.

I urge you to vote against Hillary Clinton by voting for Barack Obama. Please forward this e-mail to all your Texas Republican and Independent friends so that we can help ensure the Clinton's defeat on March 4th!!!

[yourguide]

26. do you ever post anything other than that?

[UALRBSofL]

66. We have to keep up with the Obama folks

Who try to steal the caucus especially with all the republicans voting for Obama. :)

[yourguide]

100. Riiiiiiiiiiiiight

So how do you explain all of the primaries he's won? I think he's 11 and 0 now.

[DJ13]

6. "Nevada showed how crucial technical control can be..."

Why did the stories of Clinton's supporters trying to close the doors to caucus rooms early in Vegas suddenly flash through my head?

[silverweb]

134. My first thought, exactly.

Nevada caucus replay attempt.

This time there's no deniability for the Clinton camp and this time Team Obama's ready.

GObama!

[yourguide]

7. If I dont win, no one can!

Pathetic.

[apocalypsehow]

8. There literally is no swinishness they won't resort to at this last desperate hour, is there?

n/t.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

9. An Obama voter protection volunteer weighs in

In the comments section over at the politico blog:

As someone who has done voter protection as a volunteer for the Obama campaign, I have to say how proud I am to support a candidate whose main instruction to us was to make sure that all people, regardless of party membership or choice of candidate, got the opportunity to vote if legal to do so. As someone who has done voter protection for caucuses in the past, I will also point out that the only reason why it would be important to control the sign-in sheets is if you wanted to prevent people from signing in

.

[sandnsea]

28. Interesting Obama instructions

Make sure everybody gets to vote. What a bastard.

[Pirate Smile]

41. I added that to the OP

[joshcryer]

113. Yes, it is being implied here that Hillary wants to disenfranchise voters. That's not the case.

Hillary's campaign wants to have a leadership role at the caucuses so it will have more influance. Caucuses are campaigning events. If Obama's team has most of the leadership roles, then guess what happens? Influance goes his way. They're merely taking a playbook from Obama's people, but it is being twisted and manipulated into "voter disenfranchisement."

[silverweb]

135. Sorry.

They've shown their "leadership" before -- in Nevada -- by attempting to disenfranchise people by closing the doors early.

Nice try.

[anamandujano]

138. Has BO won any caucuses where his voters didn't take leadership?

[Diane R]

144. And that's why Obama is my candidate. Class act all the way.

[sueragingroz]

10. they are finally learning how to combat BO caucus tactics

and this is a bad thing... why?

[Renew Deal]

12. Since when is disenfranchising voters good?

:shrug:

[anamandujano]

47. Ask your fearless leader about Florida and Michigan.

[yourguide]

57. Oh stop, take it up with Dean and the DNC

and the Dem party in both FL and MI.

[anamandujano]

60. BO supporters cheer it on.

Just pointing out about which team relishes disenfranchising voters.

[yourguide]

65. In case you werent paying attention

ALL of the votes in FL and MI werent counted, there were countless that didnt vote because they were told their votes wouldnt count.

And obama wasnt even ON the ballot in michigan and you want to just seat those delegates for her. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

There are only 4 states where republican voter turnout outnumbered democratic turn out:

Arizona (John McMain's home state)
Utah (Romney's home state)
MICHIGAN
FLORIDA


If that's not an indication that ALL voices werent heard then I dont know what is.

[anamandujano]

74. You're rambling. Sorry, no capish!

[yourguide]

80. you dont understand because you're an idiot

and choose to ignore those facts.

oh and to further illustrate your great brain trust, capiche is spelled as shown, capiche?

[anamandujano]

88. Name calling plus, capish can also be spelled capish.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Capish

[yourguide]

93. You are relying on Urban Dictionary

to spell capiche?!?!?!?!?! :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

for the record, the only recognized alternative spelling of the word is: capisce

I think I'll stick with Webster's thank you.

[anamandujano]

99. From the campaign that brought us "NEW."

Can't even fathom that a word could be spelled various ways.

And you have the nerve to call yourselves hip and cool.:shrug:

[yourguide]

111. Yes we can fathom

that a word can be spelled various ways.

However, the word capiche exists in two forms as recognized by the real dictionary, not the Urban Dictionary that recognizes 100+ definitions for 420 and crunk.

I have the nerve to know how to spell. God forbid.

[anamandujano]

121. Do you know how ridiculous you sound? Fortunately, no one but we two

are reading this sub-thread, and I won't remind you later.

[yourguide]

123. I can assure you

I sound far less ridiculous than your outlandish accusations at the Obama campaign.

[anamandujano]

127. No mas!

That was withering! LOL.

[yourguide]

131. Here's the story by the way...

the sun times beat the dallas news to it, out of HRCs own mouth:

http://www.suntimes.com/news/elections/821114,clinton030208.article

[Zachstar]

90. There is no bottoming out to yall's lows is there anamandujano?!

The rouge state situation is NOT in HIS HANDS AT ALL! It is up to THEM to call for a RE-VOTE! Yet some of the Clinton supporters can't stand the thought of a fair revote so they want to tout that bullshit everywhere.

Take your bullshit elseware.

[anamandujano]

96. If you're allowed to keep your bullshit here, I see no need to take mine elsewhere.

The point you have willingly overlooked is that you BO followers cheer on disenfranchisement, all the while screaming disenfranchisement as you work yourselves into a tizzy over some imagined cheating that mean Hillary is going to do.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

15. right, she tries to take away people's civil rights, good thing he's experience in defending rights

It makes me want to puke to see how Hillary will lie and cheat and suppress the vote if possible.

[sniffa]

19. BO caucus tactics

Strong organization, dedicated supporters and volunteers, and the ability to convince non-Obama voters on the first ballot to cross over to Obama on the second ballot.

Filthy, dirty tactics. :puke:

[anamandujano]

51. Problem is, how do you convince them, some Jesse Jackson Jr. arm twisting?

[anonymous171]

79. What do you mean by that?

[anamandujano]

103. I guess you haven't been reading here much lately. The black super

delegates are being harassed and threatened if they don't go to Obama. It doesn't take a genius to guess that the man behind the BO campaign race tactics is leading the charge.

[City Lights]

30. So much for being ready on day one!

:rofl:

[joshcryer]

105. By using his own tactics!

[sniffa]

11. Proof that caucuses are undemocratic

:rofl:

K&R

[MethuenProgressive]

13. So she plagiarized Obama's "training materials," what's the big deal?

Does anyone think BO's training materials say "sit quietly and let the other candidate's people take all the important roles and cool jobs"?

[yourguide]

17. obama's caucus tactics

In the comments section over at the politico blog:

As someone who has done voter protection as a volunteer for the Obama campaign, I have to say how proud I am to support a candidate whose main instruction to us was to make sure that all people, regardless of party membership or choice of candidate, got the opportunity to vote if legal to do so. As someone who has done voter protection for caucuses in the past, I will also point out that the only reason why it would be important to control the sign-in sheets is if you wanted to prevent people from signing in

[joshcryer]

107. There is nothing in this text suggesting voter disenfranchisement.

It's about controlling the caucus, something that unquestionably Obama's people have been doing from the start.

[cali]

149. But Obama's literature looks quite different from hers

re caucuses. And this kind of take no prisoners line is not something that Obama has advocated. I don't like it because I think it could lead to all kinds of ugly- even physical ugly, on Tuesday.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

20. sick of the Clinton politics of cynacism -time for her and the Clinton Bush Dynasty to go

28 years is too much.

[bigbrother05]

97. Thanks Hillary Texas voter here

I am going to print this out and take it to the Caucus, I am up for a battle
Obama supporter

[apocalypsehow]

21. And you have proof of this allegation, right? I'll wait right here while you post it.

n/t.

[DUyellow]

23. They never do...

[MethuenProgressive]

27. Did you read the post, or just the subject line?

ObamaTrons...

[apocalypsehow]

139. So, your answer basically is: "no - I don't have any such proof." Pretty much what I figured.

n/t.

[MethuenProgressive]

153. subject line responders are funny

Shallow folks are Obama's base.

[apocalypsehow]

154. Still waiting on the slightest shred of verifiable proof for your post.

n/t.

[MethuenProgressive]

155. It's called a rhetorical question, apo. Still waiting for an answer to the real question I posted:

Does anyone think BO's training materials say "sit quietly and let the other candidate's people take all the important roles and cool jobs"?
--------------------------------------------------

(we'll wait while you google "rhetorical question"...)

[apocalypsehow]

156. So, as I stated above, your answer basically is: "no - I don't have any such proof." Gotcha.

n/t.

[MethuenProgressive]

157. typical Obama supporter, fumbling around in the dark for the Present button

Check the Yellow Pages for a Night School near you.

[apocalypsehow]

158. Typical Hillary supporter - makes claims they can't substantiate, and when called on it resorts to

name-calling. Still waiting on that proof to your claim up thread, BTW

[MethuenProgressive]

159. You *are* just "playing dumb", right?

I mean honestly, you can't really be that obtuse. At least, let's Hope™ not.

[apocalypsehow]

160. You *are* going to provide proof to back up your claim, right? Or was that claim bogus, as many of

us suspected all along? If it's the latter that's okay, you can admit: it won't be the first time, by far, that a Hillary supporter has been caught making bogus claims that they don't have the slightest substantiation for.

[Name removed]

129. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[RBInMaine]

14. Typical tactics from a FRUSTRATED and DESPERATE horde.

[Exilednight]

16. I went to the dallas morning news website looking to see if they published....

this 'training material'. Has anyone see a full copy of this?

[Pirate Smile]

24. I looked also but didn't see it yet.

[jn2375]

18. She did the same thing in Nevada

[Yael]

22. And they say that shes sneaky

Wherever do they get that from?

[jn2375]

25. recommended, Obama people to check into this

[yourguide]

29. I hope they check this out

and instruct their own volunteers how to combat this.

[anonymous171]

31. Creepy as hell.

[yourguide]

32. Another post from comments on that politico article

Another thing that worries me is that the Clinton people are telling their folks to show up at 6:30 while the Obama ads say the caucuses are at 7:15. I think the HIllary people are going to try to lock the doors early on the Obama folks like they did in Nevada. Obama's folks should tell their people to get their early and they should bring video cameras to document and you-tube the voter supression that we are going to see on Tuesday night.

[anamandujano]

40. We'll have cameras too, to document any BO thug antics.

[yourguide]

49. ROFL

So the obama thug antics are:

As someone who has done voter protection as a volunteer for the Obama campaign, I have to say how proud I am to support a candidate whose main instruction to us was to make sure that all people, regardless of party membership or choice of candidate, got the opportunity to vote if legal to do so. As someone who has done voter protection for caucuses in the past, I will also point out that the only reason why it would be important to control the sign-in sheets is if you wanted to prevent people from signing in.

And you find that to be thuggish how again?

[anamandujano]

58. Hard to believe anyone that is part of the type of deceptive campaign BO is running.

Nicely written though.

"I will also point out that the only reason why it would be important to control the sign-in sheets is if you wanted to prevent people from signing in."

Your Obama love has closed your mind. There could be many other reasons. For openers, there were stories of other caucuses where BO thugs ran the show. It might be a good way to make sure she isn't cheated again, a way to level the playing field, perhaps.

[yourguide]

61. ROFL

HAHAHAHAHA, ok so how do you explain Wisconsin and the other 10 states that were part of his 11-0 run.

You are delusional. Wake up, your candidate hired a bunch of idiots to run her campaingn, they had no plan and no money after super tuesday. They blew name recognition and a 30 point lead.

People like Obama more, they like his message more. Your candidate assumed the coronation, the american people changed her plans.

[anamandujano]

68. LIFE COMES AT YOU FAST!

How could such a bad campaign be virtually neck and neck with someone who the MSM fauns over and will not vet (well, his time is coming.)

LIFE COMES AT YOU FAST!

ROFL, indeed.

[yourguide]

77. It's the other way around...

A good campaign closed a 30 point gap. It's a lot like a football team having a 30 point lead then blowing it in the last 2 minutes because they took their eye off the ball.

And lest you forget up until Iowa it was HRC who had all of the media coverage and the money...a funny thing happened on the way to the coronation my friend.

And neck and neck? He's won the last 11 in a row, it's a BLOWOUT!

[anonymous171]

85. Thugs?

Racist, but inadvertently so, I hope.

[anamandujano]

112. Racist? You're pathetic.

[yourguide]

119. Oh let me guess

you found the word thugs in the urban dictionary while you were looking for capish?

[Forkboy]

53. You need help.

[anamandujano]

63. Nope, I'm a life long photographer and the camera I have now is so

easy to use, even you . . . , well, never mind.

[Forkboy]

71. My point still stands.

[anamandujano]

86. You're right, I do need help, trying to figure out what your point is.

[Forkboy]

92. Admitting it is the first step.

:applause:

[anamandujano]

110. You need some communication skillls.

[apocalypsehow]

142. You need some manners. But I have yet to encounter an HRC supporter who has any.

n/t.

[rainbow4321]

75. From what I understand

It won't matter what time they get there, TX law says that the caucus doesn't START til 7:15 pm...voting will still be going on at 6:30 so their asses will be outside in the parking lots til at least 7 pm.

Also..vaguely remember reading that by law, if the room where the caucus is held gets FULL, it can be decided by officials to move it to a bigger area to accomodate people who show up...so the HRC campers who think they are going to get there early to fill up the place and lock the rest out (i.e Obama supporters) are shit out of luck.

But, hey, we are talking about a group of people (HRC advisors) who didn't even bother to LOOK at the TX system til 3 weeks ago...maybe they haven't finished reading the manual yet---

[yourguide]

98. Well the question is

if she is encouraging her supporters to take control of the caucus, is her surrogate who got there early is one of the officers going to decide NOT to move out of the smaller rooms thus locking out some voters?

[cliffordu]

33. The stench of the intellectual sewage coming out of the Clinton camp

Is getting more NEOCON every day.

Jesus. :mad: :argh: :banghead:

[Eurobabe]

145. The Clintoon machine fucking disgusts me to the core.

Let Tuesday be the end of them and their dy-NASTY.

:nuke: :nuke:

[cliffordu]

146. Yep, I want the Bush/Clinton cabal out of the White House

:puke:

[thevoiceofreason]

34. Don't worry. We are honest, ad we are ready. And Fired Up And Ready To Go

There have been hundreds, if not thousands, of we Obama supporters trained here in Houston. I have no qualms about our ability to insure fairness in the caucus settings. The "control" by the convention chair is illusory. The state senate credentials committee will be certain only those allowed to caucus did so.

NOTE TO EVERYONE FROM TEXAS: IF YOU GO TO THE PRECINCT CONVENTION AND AVER (SWEAR) YOU VOTED IN THE DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY IN THAT PRECINCT FOR THIS PRIMARY, THEY MUST ALLOW YOU TO PARTICIPATE. NO EXCEPTIONS. DO NOT LET ANYONE TELL YOU OTHERWISE, BECAUSE THEY WOULD BE WRONG AND LYING.

For everyone else, don't think that this would allow highjinx. All caucus participants will be verified at the state senate level, and if they were not qualified, they will be tossed, and delegate shifts, if necessary, will be made.

Believe it or not, we Texans know what the hell we are doing.

[TexasObserver]

35. Lying, Cheating, and Vote stealing are three of Team Hillary's approaches.

Their conduct makes that clear, with or without written guidelines.

[anamandujano]

42. Of course you have proof, besides your daydreams. So, please share. TIA

[yourguide]

52. dallas news blog to start

http://trailblazers.beloblog.com/archives/2008/03/caucus-strategy.html#comments

[Horse with no Name]

62. You get your NEWS from a BLOG?

Oh wait...I guess when you have to cherry pick, you gotta take it where you can get it...but I see MANY blogs passed as truths when it applies to obama. I guess as long as it has an air of "truthiness"...it works for ya.
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
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[yourguide]

67. That would be the blog from the DALLAS NEWS, to be printed

tomorrow moron, Politico also reporting it.

You wont be laughing when it hits the texas newspapers tomorrow....

[Horse with no Name]

69. It's still a BLOG

Oh please tell me you DO know the difference?

On edit:
politico is a RW rag..."most" Democrats wouldn't wipe their ass with that partisan rag.

[yourguide]

73. I do know the difference

but perhaps you forgot that many publications, including ABC News will post news to a blog before actually reporting the story. what a maroon!

[Horse with no Name]

81. And blogs...such as ABC

have been known to tell untruths.
Typical republican response from you...when you can't win an argument...resort to slams.

[yourguide]

83. Hey freakshow:

I voted for kucinich in 2004, you're an idiot.

So what, either I'm with Hillary or I'm a republican? Sounds a lot like "you're either with us or you're with the terrorists"

Hmmmm, who is it that sounds like the republican again?

[yourguide]

130. Here you go...

the words out of your candidate's own mouth bright boy:

http://www.suntimes.com/news/elections/821114,clinton030208.article

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

48. Hlilary approach #4 crying and whining n/t

[rug]

36. If that was Obama material, it would be called a good ground game.

[yourguide]

37. hell no it wouldnt

it would be called shady.

[rug]

45. Read the last paragraph of the article. That paragraph is not from the training materials.

[cliffordu]

39. No, it wouldn't and THAT would cost him my vote.

[joshcryer]

104. Yeah? Well those are the sorts of tactics his caucusing campaign has been using.

Haven't you been paying attention to the reports? Take control of a caucus, and then the other side has less say.

[anamandujano]

44. Hahaha, too right!

[anonymous171]

38. HEADLINE: Clinton tries to manipulate caucus process.

[yourguide]

43. we can only pray for that headline.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

46. Dallas News: Clinton campaign doesn't want caucus results reported either

Release of Democratic caucus results is at issue

Dems debate whether nonbinding numbers should be announced
Saturday, March 1, 2008

...The Clinton campaign has raised questions about whether the party should release the results from the caucuses, because they would be nonbinding.

"They do not want the caucus results reported on Tuesday night," Obama campaign manager David Plouffe said Friday. "They don't want the people participating in those caucuses to have the results reported. That's a very self-serving position."

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/politics/state/stories/030108dntexconventions.3606f8b.html

[AZBlue]

56. Why do you need to control the voter sign in sheets?

I mean, what purpose would that have...unless you were planning to cheat?

[sniffa]

64. To hopefully prevent the opposition from participating.

If that doesn't work they can close the doors early.

[AZBlue]

95. It's the only reason I can come up with too. She's Rove Jr.

[joshcryer]

102. It's not cheating to smile at someone and persuade them to vote vote your candidate.

That's what Obama's campaign has done in all the caucusing states so far, anyway. Hillary's campaign is finally figuring this shit out.

[Zhade]

72. Wow, MORE attempts to cheat by Clinton.

Disgusting.

[workinclasszero]

78. The Hillbots want to seize control of the caucuses and

suppress the Obama vote obviously!

All Obama voters should bring a video camera or a cell that can do video to the caucus with them.

When the Hillbots attempt to disrupt the caucus or seize control start filming it.

This anti-democratic garbage cannot stand the light of day!

GOBAMA!!

[bigbrother05]

122. I am taking this to the caucus with me, if Clinton tries to

suppress my vote, I will not be quite, and I will be there at 6:30

[workinclasszero]

147. That great! Good luck

Its so sad a democrat candidate is acting like this, but this is the world we're living in I guess.

Get there early and ready for any dirty tricks, sounds good!:thumbsup::)

[joshcryer]

101. You control the sign in sheets so you can *influance* people when they sign in.

If you control the caucusing process you have *major influance* over how people feel about their vote. The whole process is a *campaign event.* If you were to have the same pressures at a GE poll, the whole system would break.

[anamandujano]

115. Do you really think that anyone who already voted and bothers to hit the caucus

too is going to be persuaded to change their vote?

OK, I take that back. If Viggo Mortensen was manning the sign-ins, I might consider changing my vote (depending on what I was offered in return, that is.) :9

[joshcryer]

133. Yes! It's a campaign event! Of course you can pressure people.

[anamandujano]

137. Well, I am going to bring my camera and I'll report any shady details.

[Haole Girl]

124. OMG. I am getting Caucus Phobia.

And I haven't even been in one before.

:scared:

[thevoiceofreason]

152. It's not that bad.

We've been doing it for 30 some odd years.

Go in, sign up, be with your group, if you are able to participate in the state senate convention on March 29, nominate yourself to be a delegate (if you want to be one). There's not going to be any suppression. Just participate.

Remember also, the caucuses are guided by Roberts Rules of Order. So, if you have a question, you can interrupt any proceedings asking a point of personal privilege.

[Beregond2]

136. TX

That's clearly veiled instructions to cheat. Jesus, these people are low.

[TexasObserver]

151. Nothing soils our process worse than instructing supporters to exclude opposing caucus attendees.

[anonymous171]

141. Everyone bring cameras.

Then upload any clips of suspicious activity to youtube. Let's create a shitstorm of cheating caught on tape for the MSM to lap up.

[workinclasszero]

150. Thats right

Get it on video and slap it on youtube!

Hillary's dirty tricks will submerge her campaign for good if her supporters try to steal the Texas caucuses!