Do the republicans want us to nominate Hillary, or Obama??

[cliffordu]

I see posts claiming one or the other. Which is it??

Does anyone have any hard evidence one way or another??

Is it an organized effort, or just a bunch of right wing radio dingdongs pushing for it??

thanks

[yourout]

1. This one is easy........Hillary by a mile.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

34. why are they voting for Obama - they admit that they don't want to see her as nominee.

and most are saying that they plan on voting for McCain in the General Election also.

[MethuenProgressive]

2. They vote for Obama in our Primaries and caucuses.

That's a fact.

[jefferson_dem]

5. Some folks know a winner when they see him...and relish any opportunity to vote against...

her.

[MethuenProgressive]

11. Republicans see a candidate they can beat, and vote for him in our Primaries

Obama v McCain/Rove = ObamaToast

[Tellurian]

22. Thanks, MP..

Thats about it in a nutshell..

Too complex for JeffDem to spin..:hi:

[jefferson_dem]

24. Ouch.

Tee hee.

Have fun with that. :hi:

[Tellurian]

31. OK..

Here's something to sooth that boo-boo..

[kerry-is-my-prez]

35. right... keep on telling yourself that.

if you repeat it often enough you will believe it.

[Cirque du So-What]

15. This article disputes that fact

Ohio Republicans pulling for Clinton to win

If she's Dems' nominee, GOP faithful think she'll unite GOP

BY HOWARD WILKINSON | [e-mail]

One of the worst-kept secrets of the Ohio presidential primary is that Republican Party leaders have a candidate they are rooting for on the Democratic side.

Her name is Hillary Rodham Clinton; and they believe that if she wins the Ohio primary and goes on to become the Democratic nominee, she will be the one who unites their dispirited and divided party and gives them their best chance of keeping the White House this fall.

It is a belief that the Clinton campaign says is wrong; and they will campaign across the state for the next three weeks making the argument that their battle-tested, experienced candidate is the only one who can go toe-to-toe with John McCain, the presumptive GOP nominee.

<snip>

'HIGH NEGATIVES'

To hear Republicans tell it, they're rooting for Clinton.

"There is no doubt about it," said John Becker, a Clermont County Republican who represents much of southern Ohio on the Ohio Republican Party Central Committee. "There is nobody who can consolidate and energize the Republican Party like Hillary Clinton. It will get the people out and the money will flow."

more...

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080214/NEWS01/802140346/1056/COL02

On edit: aesthetic improvements

[Riley133]

28. For Ohio, that is true. nt

[billybob537]

3. No Republicans want us to

Nominate a LEPER but Hillary's the closest we have!

[cliffordu]

4. lol!

[Name removed]

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[TexasObserver]

6. Hillary!! They know only Hillary can unite them and alienate all indies.

[meow mix]

7. they are in a complete shambles i dont think they care. but who does Mccain want?

he wants to run against hillary i think thats pretty obvious

[Nine]

8. I don't know whom they want us to nominate, but I know what they want us to do.

They want us to make the Dem primaries as ugly as possible and to go at each other's throats so that the bitterness and hurt feelings will linger long after one candidate is selected. Judging from DU, it looks like their wish will come true.

[AndyTiedye]

10. They're Not Losing any Sleep Over Either of Them

[Buck Laser]

12. Who gives a rat's ass who the GOP wants?

We will be nominating the next president. That much is clear.

[Swamp Rat]

17. Leave us rats out of it!

[MojoMojoMojo]

43. Texas Republicans will nominate the next Dem Candidate

[roseBudd]

13. When Hillary surprisingly (based on polls) won NH a GOPer was quoted as

"Sweet, baby jesus!"

But the G.O.P. was practically buoyant compared with the gloom that reigned when Obama roared out of Iowa. Having spent years planning for an epic rematch against the Clintons, their favorite archvillains, Republicans suddenly saw a new and looming foe rumbling the ground as he approached. Obama's lack of political baggage and abundance of star power made the all-too-human qualities of the Republican field more apparent.

Never have so many Republicans been so pleased by Hillary Clinton's success. "Sweet baby Jesus, they saved our bacon," a veteran of the Reagan Administration exulted. "We're back in the game." But that relief may well be short-lived. This is going to last for a while, and in 48 states, voters are getting ready to play.

— reported by Ana Marie Cox, Michael Scherer, Jay Newton-Small, Amy Sullivan and Karen Tumulty/Iowa and James Carney, Gilbert Cruz, Michael Duffy and Mark Halperin/New Hampshire

[AZBlue]

14. Why aren't we worrying about who WE want?

Seems far more appropriate.

[cliffordu]

23. I've already voted and will vote Dem across the board

in the general election.....I will torture the other Dem candidate trolls and screamers, but 'at the end of the day' we are all Democrats....except for the FREEP trolls, of course...

[stillrockin]

16. They SO want to run against Hillary.

She is polarizing and will mobilize thousands of repugs who might otherwise stay home.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

18. video proof here...............

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yt_jnhsyqg0

[Guava Jelly]

19. They wanted to nominate Romney..Oh wait you were talking about dems.

I have my own theory..

[JerseygirlCT]

20. I think they've been counting on Clinton for years now.

Salivating at the prospect.

Now, whether their glee at the idea of running against her is misplaced or not is another question. But I think they've long (before 2004) been planning on taking her on - and down.

[Tellurian]

25. No, they've been counting on thwarting Clinton's nomination for years now..

They found an erstwhile corruptible politician to put up against her..because they fear teh Clintons will win the White House! AGAIN!

[sendero]

21. The very fact that the MSM..

.... wouldn't give any other Dem candidate the time of day until Obama RAN AWAY with some races tells me the answer is pretty clear.

In politics, a known quantity is always better, and a known quantity with a 45% total-dissaproval polling is even better.

[roseBudd]

26. "I look at the Barack Obama campaign in some horror," he said...

The discrepancy was enough to lead Republican National Committee Treasurer Tim Morgan to sound off last weekend in San Francisco during a California Republican convention. Morgan said the RNC has budgeted $150 million for the year, $100 million less than it raised in 2004 when President Bush ran against Democrat John Kerry.

"I look at the Barack Obama campaign in some horror," he said, noting the Democrat's totals so far this year. "That should give all of us a pause."

[jwirr]

27. I think they would prefer Hillary because she could very well unite

them again behind their candidate (not that this single factor would win the election if she did) but they are pretty sure that Obama is right: he can get Hillary's followers because they are Democrats who vote and work for Democratic candidates every year. They are party faithfuls.

BUT they do not think she can get enough of the "first time" voters Obama is drawing to the ticket. This group includes people who in the past did not believe the system worked for them. They or their parents fought for the right to vote in the 60s & 70s and they did vote then and they have voted whenever there was a candidate they saw as an answer to their needs: Andrew Young in Atlanta, Washington in Chicago, and so forth. They are a mighty power that can move mountains if they see the promise but as Democratic candidates have learned to their regret they cannot easily be moved to vote for a candidate they see as just another politician. So the pugs think that Hillary will not get many Obama followers out to vote.

The pugs believe that if they can combine these two factors that they have a chance to win.

[Beregond2]

29. Hillary

Hillary, of course. They know she is the one person conservatives would turn out to defeat. That's why they didn't do a better job of coming-up with a decent candidate. They didn't think it mattered if Hillary was the Dem nominee, as the media kept assuring them. Obama is an unexpected nightmare for them. The last thing that ever entered their bigotted little hearts was the thought that a black man might get so far.

[question everything]

30. The question should be: should the Republicans dictate to us who should be our nominee?

[joshcryer]

33. Such a concept is completely foreign to the vast majority of people here.

They see nothing wrong with a party deciding their candidate on the votes of the other party.

[Honeycombe8]

32. They have wet dreams that it'll be the Clintons. Obviously.

Anyone who has been following this stuff closely for the last year knows this.

Not that it matters WHO they want.

[Political Heretic]

36. WHO GIVES A FUCK.

Since when do we let Republicans dictate....oh wait that's ALL we've been doing for like eight years....

Well its time to stop!

Vote for the person you think would make the best president. If we can't be republicans this year with ANY candidate when we might was well just give up.

[cliffordu]

37. I already voted...but

I just wanted to know if there was an organized effort.....so I could research the subgroup of idiots behind it...

[Political Heretic]

38. sorry... all I know is that both sides think republicans want the other sides' candidate

So Obama people think republicans want to run against hillary, hillary people think republicans want to run against Obama. I don't think you can really find a consensus out there.

[DemBones DemBones]

39. Obama. That's why the GOP-owned media is fawning over him.

Q.E.D.

[LadyVT]

40. Do a google search. It is obviously Obama. They are pumping him up...

only to take him down in November.

[KLee]

45. search Paul vs Clinton...

[KLee]

44. really??? I guess none of our votes count then

This is ludicrous

I guess the media went and cast my ballot.

[backscatter712]

41. As the prevailing wisdom goes...

The GOP hates Hillary, but fears Obama.

Kind of explains why the right-wing outlets like O'Reilly and Limbaugh have been pumping the Osama/Obama meme and singing Barack the Magic Negro, while Ann Coulter suddenly claims she'd rather vote for Hillary than McCain.

But at the same time, the ordinary folks from the GOP, not the sociopathic elites that have dominated the party, are flocking to Obama.

I'm sure that's freaking out the insiders like Rush and Hannity. They know they can beat Hillary, but Obama seems to be bulletproof to them.

[davidpdx]

42. I think the notion that Republicans want one or the other

is kind playing into their brand of politics. I also think the claims by some that Republicans are helping Obama win the nomination because he would be easier to defeat is ridiculous as well.