Day after day, Hillary dominates the news cycle-on SNL tonight-as Obama crashes in the polls

[Tropics_Dude83]

Last Saturday, it was the "Shame on you" moment, on Sunday it was the celestial choir moment, on Friday, it was the Red phone nuclear ad, now she will be on Saturday Night Live tonight to critical acclaim I'm sure (so she's already won tommorrow's news cycle), Monday Rezco trial starts and the Mondays before big primaries are always bad days for Obama.

WTF is going on? Obama is letting Hillary DOMINATE the news cycle. Can you all remember the last day that he won? Now, she is surging in TX, surging in OH (51-44 in ARG now was 50-45) and 47-47 now in TX, was 51-44 Obama?

Obama just sits back and let's Hillary keep hitting home run after home run day after day. It's time that he does SOMETHING.

He's got to at least try.

All indications are from Rasmussen to Belo to ARG to Zogby that HRC has the big momentum and is probably poised for 3/4 victories on 3/4.

And Obama supporters, you're kidding yourself if you think that Hillary winning 3/4 is going to be anything other than a monumental story. The media will say that she has comeback from the dead twice now. She will be adulated. Obama's campaign will be reeling on 3/5. I know the delegate math is bad but she could use OH, TX, RI wins to propel her to wins in PA, NC, and IN and then everything changes.

Wake up Obama. Your opponent is engaged in a massive surge. Do something!!

[MannyGoldstein]

1. Clinton Has It In The Bag!

If only those durned young "urban" voters would cooperate.

[leftofcool]

7. It's all about being electable

She is, he's not.

[MannyGoldstein]

14. Other Than The Results of Actual Primaries And Polls, I Think You're Right!

I never believed in that so-called "reality" anyway.

[Zhade]

19. Yeah, if she keeps trying to cheat, you're right!

NT!

[adoraz]

2. Yes, I can't wait to see tomorrow's headline in the paper

"Hillary on Saturday Night Live"

You know, because these late night shows rarely ever have famous people on them this is huge, huge news.

[Tropics_Dude83]

4. The media will love it

And say "Oh she's so funny and so warm" blah blah blah.

[bigbrother05]

27. But Huckabee was on there

[Straight Shooter]

42. And you'd be surprised how many Dems think Huckabee is just a dandy fella.

Huckster didn't want Wayne DuMond to suffer needlessly in prison for raping a young girl who was related to Bill Clinton. He let Clinton hatred overtake his common sense and arm-twisted the Parole Board, so Wayne DuMond was set free, to rape and kill.

Yeah, you want to like the guy, it's just impossible when you think of the filth that poisons his brain. He's petty, he's vindictive, and he's a creep.

[anonymous171]

3. He's gunna suprise her on monday.

[dkf]

5. I am very curious what the 2 min ad buy is.

[ingac70]

6. Hillary was supposedly closing in on him in Wisconsin in polls..

And suffered a humiliating blowout.

[DUyellow]

10. LOL

[lligrd]

8. Negative Campaigning Apparently Works As Does

screaming Terror. I thought Democrats were better than that but it looks like many are no better than Republicans and want more of the same. I no longer care.

[Omega3]

32. bye bye

see that's the prob. with you bho-bots, you're all too soft

[lligrd]

38. Didn't Say I Was Leaving JustThat I No Longer Care

if you choose to vote for more of the same. I will just be fine. Too bad so many won't be.

[RBInMaine]

9. Obama SURGING in Ohio and RI, WAY ahead in VT, and TIED

in TX. Yes, she has been getting the better end of the corporate media press lately. Well, that's the biased shitty corporate media for you.
But relax. The Obama team is very good, and remember she has had a HUGE machine, demographics, and 15-30 point advantages in TX, OH, and RI up until just a few weeks ago. Now it's ALL too close to call. No matter what, it's going to be very close. The Obama people are working hard in ALL 4 states. Just keep your pants on, and get out there and do some work for Obama. Do homebased phone banking using the Obama website. Make a donation.
Go knock on doors if you live in or close to one of these four states. There are MANY things you can do if you are so concerned. SO DO THEM.
PUT YOUR ENERGY INTO ACTION !!

[DUyellow]

11. total crash

[Tropics_Dude83]

12. Good idea

Kind of nervous to do phone banking but a donation is something I absolutely can do. Will do that right now.

[MannyGoldstein]

15. But Other Than His Winning Almost Everything, You Have To Admit That He's Losing

No?

[ingac70]

21. If he's ahead in delegates, he isn't losing. n/t.

[MannyGoldstein]

26. Oh Sure. But Other Than That, He's Losing. [nt]

[Arugula Latte]

49. Right. Because the script written last year has him losing.

So that's the way it is. :)

[Tropics_Dude83]

23. The media will adulate Hillary

If she wins even by 0.5% TX and OH on 3/4

[NJSecularist]

13. You are reading too much into random flunctuations by unreliable pollsters

At least wait until the latest Rasmussen or Survey USA polls comes out from Texas and Ohio before you freak out. They have been consistently reliable.

The reality is, Obama's polling numbers haven't collapsed. This supposed "collapse" (from unreliable pollsters I might add) is all within the margin of error.

Wait until Monday or Tuesday before jumping off a bridge, please...

[ingac70]

I hope...

It ends up like Wisconsin, where polls showed them close and he trounced her.

[Tropics_Dude83]

18. I am starting to panic:(

This SNL news really pushed me into panic mode but I will stay calm for now and hope Zogby brings good news tonight.

[NJSecularist]

22. I'm not sure how much impact SNL will have

And what are you referring to regarding Zogby tonight? Does he have new results coming out? When?

And don't go into panic mode until the more reliable pollsters like SurveyUSA show that Hillary is leading the race.

[Tropics_Dude83]

24. 1 a,m. ET/10 my time

That's when his new polls come out each night.

[musicblind]

37. hmm

after his track record, I wouldn't believe ANYTHING Zogby has to say... one way or the other.

[FogerRox]

16. Yeah it'll be a blowout for sure

Donkey

[kristopher]

17. She dominating the news because the "news" loves having a horserace.

If Obama shuts her down, the party's over for them and they are relegated to covering the Obama - McCain matchup; which promises to be just south of watching paint dry on the entertainment scale.

I don't think they are going to get it done though. People are amped up and ready to rock. I don't think the media is quite the force they've been over the past few years. I still have hope that Obama will win out.

[book_worm]

20. Most polls don't show her "surging" in Ohio

including Zogby and Mason-Dixon and Rasmussen which show Obama gaining in Ohio. Besides she had double digit leads in both states just two weeks ago.

[Nitrogenica]

25. Blowout for Obama, I'm pretty sure about that.

[Rock_Garden]

28. Go, Fight, Win Hillary Woman!!!

[AZBlue]

29. Her phone call ad backfired on her and she's also in the news for accepting

donations from a firm that routinely sexually abuses its employees. I wouldn't say all her press is glowing lately, it's about even.

[JimGinPA]

30. "Crashes in the Polls"

Ahead in Texas, tied in Ohio. He's really crashing.



:rofl:

[Tropics_Dude83]

31. Going from a 51-44 TX lead to being at tied at 47% is not good

This is per ARG; but, I've calmed down a bit. Even if Hillary does win OH, TX, and RI, Obama will win Wyoming and MS days later and PA will be Iowa II.

It'd be nice for this to end though so the focus can be on defeating Mccain.

It's a bit disturbing that consistently OB has not been able to close the deal. Couldn't in NH, can't now.

[NJSecularist]

34. The poll's change is still within the margin of error

And it is still subject to erratic day to day samples that may not be consistent with what is happening on the ground. As I said, what a few days to see if this is a pattern instead of a random flunctation which is what it looks like right now.

[high density]

36. Consistently he hasn't been able to close the deal? Except in the last 11 contests of course

And not to mention he's never been behind in pledged delegates. He's closing "the deal" just fine.

[Political Heretic]

50. I think I need to "host" a multi thread class on understanding polls and statistics.

If a change is within the margin of error, its not super reliable information.

Honestly a really, really, simple "street" way to think about polls is KO's way:

For any poll between Obama and Hillary:

1. take the % undecideds
2. ADD the margin of error
3. SUBTRACT any "Other" candidates

And then apply that number -- if Clinton and Obama are tied at 47 but the "Keith" number is 11% basically no one knows shit. It could be Obama 58% or Clinton 58% or anything in between.

Also remember that as much as we want to watch polls (and I do too) polls are only really helpful with the distance between the two candidates is larger than any margin of error + undecideds.

Finally - the best possible "poll" you can possibly find is AVERAGED TREND DATA!!!

That would be an average of the scores of multiple polls tracked every day, or at least as often as possible.

Something like this:

[MadBadger]

33. I dont understand where you see Obama sitting back and letting it happen

He ALWAYS responds.

[high density]

35. Crashes in the polls?

What a joke thread this is. Get back to the real world man.

[scheming daemons]

39. Relax, dude.... check out the election markets (links)...

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/latest_results_from_rasmussen_markets

http://www.intrade.com



These things are a better predictor than polls. Basically.... Obama has an 86% chance of getting the nomination, and Hillary has a 14% chance.


Ohio is a "dead heat", with Hillary having a 53% chance of winning to Obama's 47%. In Texas, Obama has a 75% chance of winning.



Nothing that happened today moved the numbers at all.....


Relax.

[The Ghost]

40. but, but, but...

i thought it was media bias in Obama's favor.

[JorgeTheGood]

41. Looks like REZKO fumes are seeping in ... n/t

[Beregond2]

43. Hillary

The only reason she is in the news so much is because her campaign has become such a pathetic joke. Obama isn't doing anything desperate, as she is, because he doesn't need to. Get a clue.

[Jane Austin]

44. How many phone calls for Obama did you make today?

Just asking.

[rodeodance]

45. Panic atack in full swing by many Obamafolk today!!

[Tarheel_Dem]

54. not Obama "folk"....just one nervous Nellie as far as I can see.....

and to start a breathless "sky is falling" thread like this makes me wonder about the o.p., could be a hillary supporter in disguise...no?

[candice]

46. Hillary Clinton: For the Record (video)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHW0RzXe4DQ

[LadyVT]

47. Whoo hoo! Go HIllary! Hillary Hits Home!

Watching her on CSpan right now. She looks great--so much energy after so many months!!

[rodeodance]

53. Glad to hear that ---I saw that nice photo of here with crowd on MSNBC front page. It was grand

[jgraz]

48. Three. More. Days.

:banghead:

[KLee]

51. ditto

[Political Heretic]

52. Example of crashes in the polls:

OMG HUGH CRASHEZ!!!11!!11ONE!!!!1





OMG LOOK AT TAHT CARSHEZ LINEZ!!!1!!1!1!1!!!! SERIES I AM FRIGHTEN!