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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 10:08 PM
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The Nevada Caucus Clinton shenanigans Round 2 in Texas!!!
After Nevada, the Obama campaign filed a complaint with the Nevada Democratic Party. The complaint stemmed from over a thousand complaints about...shall we say... shenanigans during the caucuses. Including a Caucus guide given to "some" Clinton supporters with one key line. "it isn't illegal unless they tell you so."

Here is an example of some of the complaints:

Pushing to close the doors at 11:30(caucuses started at 12),
Meanwhile telling Obama supporters they couldn't go in till 11:30,
Refusing to let Obama supporters use the sign in sheets,
Checking Obama supporters ID's and then telling them they couldn't vote,
Pre-marking voter preference cards for Clinton,
Collecting voter preference cards from Obama supporters and then pocketing them,
Stealing voter registration forms and precinct papers from Obama precinct captains,

I guess they meant it when they said, "it isn't illegal unless they tell you so."

http://www.time-blog.com/swampland/NV001.PDF


So, I thought this was all done, but:

The Dallas Morning News gets hold of Clinton caucus "training materials," in which supporters are instructed to fight for procedural control of caucuses.

The materials say in part, "DO NOT allow the supporter of another candidate to serve in leadership roles."

It goes on to say, "If our supporters are outnumbered, ask the Temporary Chair if one of our supporters can serve as the Secretary, in the interest of fairness.

"The control of the sign-in sheets and the announcement of the delegates allotted to each candidate are the critical functions of the Chair and Secretary. This is why it is so important that Hillary supporters hold these positions."

Some of the moments on the ground in Nevada showed how crucial technical control can be, particularly when -- there, as expected in Texas -- nobody has any idea what the rules are. Really makes you love the caucus process.


http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0308/Texas_caucus_hardball.html#comments

Well, I think I am going to be sick.


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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 10:25 PM
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1. DINO Hill.
That's all I can say about her anymore.
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EmperorHasNoClothes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 10:25 PM
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2. Here we go again.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 10:26 PM
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3. "And if we cant steal the caucus, we'll sue to void the results!"
Nope, no desperation there in the Hillary campaign........

:puke:

:eyes:
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 10:31 PM
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7. Thankfully it will be OVER soon.
She has been exposed on numerous fronts and no amount of cheating she can do can get her enough margin to continue. The only thing it will do is cost her the remaining years of her political future.
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jkshaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 10:29 PM
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4. Obama supporters in Texas need to have this information
before Tuesday. All supporters and workers need it. I've read about these shenanigans in Nevada and still don't believe Hillary won that state fairly.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 10:30 PM
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5. .
:kick: and r
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 10:31 PM
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6. kicking - this is way too outrageous to be ignored
For any DU'ers who have been at all concerned about past voter disenfranchisement by republicans, this is simply more of the same — from within our own party. :mad:
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KLee Donating Member (277 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 10:45 PM
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8. This really irritates me....
What a pathetic campaign
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 10:48 PM
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9. I don't get why any state party would allow campaigns those roles
All of our caucus convener slots were filled by legislative district and county party members, who were instructed to avoid favoritism.
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 10:54 PM
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10. self kick...so all can read. N/T
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 11:03 PM
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11. She's telling folks in Texas to show up at 6:30
Got both a robocall & and flyer in the mail to that effect.

If you have to cheat to win, you're a loser.

dg
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 11:15 PM
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12. It is so reminiscent...
of 2000, but I wasn't on the internet then. I had to suffer through James Baker III. I really hope the record breaking numbers of people voting in this Primary will make a difference in the ease with which the Courts can select the candidate and then the President.
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 12:50 AM
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13. K and R
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 01:04 AM
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14. This kind of caucus misconduct is repugnant to our party. Hasn't been done since George Wallace ran
Same ugly exclusive, illegal techniques.
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 12:46 PM
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15. Yep... nt
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 12:48 PM
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16. Bill Clinton and Terry McAuliffe will likely attend big Texas caucuses...
... just like they did in Nevada. Stalking Horses, if you will.

It reeks of desperation. Bring. It. On.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 12:51 PM
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17. Kick
:kick:
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