"Obama's Thugs Suppress Discussion on Daily Kos"

[Algorem]

Obama's Thugs Suppress Discussion on Daily Kos

http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/3/1/141758/5543

by Jacob Freeze, Sat Mar 01, 2008 at 02:17:58 PM EST

I've written a couple of diaries that Hillary Clinton's supporters interpreted as more unsympathetic to their candidate than they really were, and some of their comments were harsh, but Ms. Clinton's supporters never tried to shut down discussion by jamming threads with empty comments and even empty titles. DemocraticLuntz is the worst, posting " " only 36 seconds after one of my diaries was posted, no title, no comment, don't bother to read the diary, and not just for me, but also on a very halting diary by yangwenli, where JeffLieber, kismet, RumsfeldResign, Irishkorean, Hannibal, MKS, and MichaelPH also posted empty title lines or typographical doodads over empty comments.

Hannibal likes this trick so much that on the list of his comments, 14 in a row were nothing but meaningless typographical doodads, many of them clogging a reasonably substantial pro-Hillary diary by ManOverBoard.

MadAsHellMaddie and ElitistJohn also joined members of the usual crew like MichaelPh and Democratic Luntz in posting meaningless doodads on the same diary, which also illustrates another favorite tactic of Obama's thugs: abusive troll ratings. Troll ratings of a comment by the diarist, titled "I was in Iowa..." by nevadadem, mcfly, Elvis meets Nixon, Potus2020, gchaucer2, rf7777 were uprated by Dump Terry McAuliffe, PaintyKat, swissffun, bonesy, bobswern, ZhenRen. Six troll ratings, six upratings, followed by bitter name-calling... Is this an example of Obama's famous ability to heal divisions?

Or maybe by "healing divisions" Obama means the same thing as proponents of the Surge in Iraq, which Obama votes to fund every chance he gets. The Surge "healed divisions" by allowing each side to drive the other out of mixed neighborhoods, and Presto! Everybody is just alike, on one side of the wall or the other...

[thunder rising]

1. So? That's over at myDD.

[yourguide]

2. You wasted a post on this?

Well jeez, if this is big news I am gonna write the HRC campaign and see if she can reign in a handful of her own thugs on this board.

yawn.

[rodeodance]

35. I like the post. But your posts are what the OP is talking about. MT suit type!

[Freida5]

3. This is why the Obama thugs were hired and recruited. To suppress opposing opinions

Scary isn't it

[yourguide]

5. You are talking about HRC trying to

bully the TX caucus I assume....

[enid602]

8. Brown Shirts.

Brown Shirts. We've seen it before.

[flyarm]

11. quite Rovian wouldn't you say??..i would say..and it is so obvious..if one doesn't see it

they don't want to.

fly

[niceypoo]

30. Yes, it is, Obamas campaign is doing what Bush did in 2000 and 2004

Having his supporters obsessively go after his opponants while he pretends to be, 'above the fray,' doing and saying nothing.

[flyarm]

44. i won't buy it and i won't shut up about it..that is how * succeeded to silence his opponents..

i will not play by these rules...and i will not stfu like obama supporters keep telling me to..or go away..i didn't shut up under little lord pissy pants and i won't shut up now..

and i didn't "go away" under little lord pissy pants..and i will not "go away" like obama supporters keep telling me to.

i will not put up with this type of bullshit from people supposedly in my own party..not today and not tommorrow!

fly

[mattclearing]

19. Prove it.

There are overzealous supporters on both sides, many of whom volunteer. What makes you think the campaigns waste actual money on this?

[niceypoo]

34. Listen to Air America or Keith Olberman

...then look at the way Bush operated in 2000 and 2004.....letting the media and his supporters endlessly attack his opponents while saying nothing and pretending to be above it all. Obamites wish to pretend that Obama is too stupid or naive to see what is going on in his name, but he wholeheartedly approves of it.

[mattclearing]

58. But Hillary's nutty supporters are completely disavowed? n/t

[Kittycat]

38. Exactly - check out the psychos at Hillaryis44

I've never seen such a whacked out bunch of groupies.

ETA: I'd fall right in line and support Clinton if she becomes the legitimate nominee, but I could actually see them campaigning for McCain if Obama is.

[rodeodance]

33. Yes, they infest Positive threads on DU also-with the kitchen sick of slim on Clinton.

[MoonRiver]

4. Chicago politics at its worst.

Next they'll be threatening to break a few dissenters' legs. :puke:

[yourguide]

7. Again I assume you are also talking

about HRC trying to bully the TX caucus and steal the vote?

[MoonRiver]

21. NO, I am not also talking about that. I do not believe she has bullied anybody, btw.

I AM talking about Obama's Chicago style thugs.

[yourguide]

42. Oooooh

are you talking about those Chicago style message board thugs sitting at their computer's and violently typing away? They certainly inspire fear in ALL :sarcasm:

They are NOTORIOUS, apparently they sprung forth from the loins of Al Capone did you hear?

Stop, hasn't it occurred to you that people are furious at HRC and her cronies BS over the past 3 weeks? the plagiarism BS, the turban email, and the list goes on and on.

[cliffordu]

48. The obamanoids hurt my puppy....

[NashVegas]

6. Check Out the Thug With the Nick 'Code Blue'

If you smear our (all but certain) nominee with lies and outrageous slander, we're going to shut you down.

It's easy to see why they aren't Clinton fans.

[flyarm]

9. paid brownshirts!..they are here as well..their job shut down any negative info..period!

inSC i spoke with Bonior ..with the Edwards campaign and he knew they had a shitload of them.

fly

[Coexist]

10. and this is coming from MyDD.... pot, meet kettle.

[cali]

12. Freeze has been indulging in troll like behavior

over at kos. Positive Hillary diaries are NOT dissed over there. Yes, kos is overwhelmingly pro-Obama, and there are a few Onbama posters who are obnoxious, but that's not true about the larger community. And Jerome is not one to talk.

[americanstranger]

59. Heh. Jerome.

This guy is supposed to be one of the sharpest minds on the internet.

I remember in the runup to Super Tuesday, he escalated anti-Obama rhetoric way off the scale, crowing about how Hillary would run the table and send Obama packing.

After it didn't happen, Jerome sulked off and didn't even post on hyis own damn site. I dunno if he ever came back.

Talk about taking your ball and going home...

- as

[Demagitator]

13. Trust me...

they are ten times worse in real life. They look so liberal on the outside, but they are corporation men at heart.

[cliffordu]

49. Who? I get confused....

[THUNDER HANDS]

14. i'm not sure i understand

how does not replying to a post with any words mean you're spamming it? doesn't it just get kicked to the top like on DU?

[karynnj]

61. No DKos doesn't work that way

There's a recommended list that is determined somehow by responses and the number of people who recommend it - I don't know the exact way. There's also a list that I think is just the most recent - but I don't know if responses move them. (Some one more knowledgeable will likely (and hopefully) will correct this.

[Upton]

15. You're paranoid, probably imagining things

[niceypoo]

37. Have you ever been to Daily Kos?

Give us a report when you get back.

[Upton]

41. I have Kos as one of my feeds

just because there may be more Obama supporters does not mean there is something sinister going on.

[qazplm]

16. anyone who's opinion is "suppressed"

by words on a computer screen is about as weak minded of an individual as there is.

[Chacarron]

17. The Daily Kos top-brass encourages this, as they are all pro-Obama as well

There seem to be no moderators in the Dkos, or the ones that exist do not care.

[karynnj]

60. There is a very democratic way in which it is "moderated"

People who comment enough and get recommended enough for those comments gain the ability to vote to "hide" a comment they think is a troll comment. I think there is a limit to the number of comments, such a user can vote to "hide" each day. It takes some number of hide votes to hide something and that number goes up as the comment gets recommend votes. I've seen this eliminate the worst of the worst, but it never seems to eliminate valid negative points to anyone.

It has only been in the last month or two when Obama has been the most popular - Edwards was the most popular for a very long time. I have seen the Clintons both lose support in the last few months - but that is because people's opinions have shifted not any high level attacks.

Though there are some people who command more attention there because of who they are, I have seen some user names that have earned credibility by writing intelligent, coherent, fact based diaries. What impresses me there is that some of these become top recommended and are then likely read by a huge number of people. This is the breathe of fresh air and the democratic nature of what a major site can be. From the looks of this persons rant -I wonder what he wrote there - I have never seen responses on anything like he describes - for any diary I ever saw.

[From The Left]

18. No, No, No

It's more like Hillary's Harpies are killing KOS.

[Exilednight]

20. Don't act like this is all one sided. Hillary supporters are just as bad. I keep my blog on ....

wordpress, but I moderate the comments section.

[workinclasszero]

22. LOL What about all the Hillbot attack dogs on DU? (nt)

[DemGa]

23. I quit going to DailyKos because of the Hillary Hate

It's just disgusting -- that site is completely infected with it. I won't go back.

[niceypoo]

29. Obama supporters have turned the democratic party into a sewer

It has even infected Olberman and half of the people at Air America. They have taken the baton from the republican hate machine of the 1990s and ran with it. They have a pack mentality, and there are a lot of freeper types among them who see it as an opportunity to join in with these misguided, hateful, 'democrats,' and join in the blanket party.

[DemGa]

36. Very true; this place is nearly gone too

And they have taken up the attacks of the repug hate machine -- it's truly disgusting. They will pay with a fractured Dem base, should Obama get the nomination.

[paulk]

24. there's a lot of it here, too

Some of them even on this thread...

There seemed to be this huge influx of new posters mid January whose only purpose was to disrupt -

Some of them are pretty obviously freepers.

But the majority are Obama supporters whose only purpose seems to be to contradict anything and everything Hillary. You can't have a pro Hillary thread without the same group of posters coming in and hijacking it.

Granted there are some Hillary supporters engaging in the same tactics, but they are far outnumbered.

[Adelante]

25. Why do you bring this bullshit here?

Don't we have enough trouble of our own?

[niceypoo]

26. They sound just the Obama 'supporters' here

who show their 'support' through their obsession and hatred of the Clinton family

[BooScout]

27. They use the same tactics here

Witness the crap they spew on this thread alone.

[Barack_America]

28. Bloggers are funny.

It's fun to watch them sling serious accusations at one another under their funny little handles.

yangwenli says that DemocraticLuntz is being MEAN!

[Yael]

31. Dear Lord

"Someone isn't being fair to me on the internet -- and I'm gonna NAME NAMES, (er, usernames)!!!"

:rofl:

[HeraldSquare212]

32. Remember the swarm posting campaigns by Clinton supporters

where every third post for days and days was on the same topic? It started right after Iowa.

[blocker]

39. Is it me or are the Clinton supporters cry babys sometimes?

Look i take no sides in this whole thing, but it's getting kinda sad actually, the clinton supporters are always cring foul about twhen Clinton gets attacked, but it's just fine when they attack Obama for every stupid little detail, if you clinton fans are too emtioanl for looking at blogs, go do something else.

[rodeodance]

40. How many pillows to need?

[11 Bravo]

47. It's you, you subtle devil, you.

"I take no side in this whole thing" followed by "Clinton supporters are always crying foul" and "if you Clinton fans are too emotional for looking at blogs, go do something else".
Yeah, it's pretty obvious that you don't have a horse in this race.

[Forkboy]

51. Well, he was at least correct after that first part.

I just wonder how he misses the whining Obama supporters. Both sides need to be whacked on the nose with a rolled up magazine. :P

[nolabels]

53. You are so correct that i don't know if i should laugh or cry but ................

since it's a lot more healthy :rofl:

[JVS]

50. Yeah, they do a lot whining.

[Straight Shooter]

43. I have totally stopped visiting Daily Kos.

It's Daily O now. What a useless site.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

45. pretty much the same shit that goes on here.....the 13th ward

[candice]

46. What is the sound of one-hand clapping?

Obama boasts so much because his record is so thin. Kind of reminds me of another empty suit foisted on us by the media--one who also needed on-the-job training and led a charmed life.

[Forkboy]

52. Man, I'm glad I never played hockey with some people from both sides.

We would have to take timeouts every five minutes for a diaper change.

[JVS]

54. Thugs. Interesting choice of words.

[yourguide]

55. Yup

they are talking about the little known underbelly of Chicago style message board thugs sitting at their computer's and violently typing away. They certainly inspire fear in ALL :sarcasm:

They are NOTORIOUS, apparently they sprung forth from the loins of Al Capone did you hear?

:rofl:

[JVS]

56. Yeaaaahhh seeee. Cut the funny stuff and vote for Obama.

Actually, I was thinking of thugs as in the frequent criticism of gangster-rap. Code is out there.

[yourguide]

57. I know...

I am just trying not to go down THAT road...