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Sun Mar-02-08 12:43 PM
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Hillary hiring AA's to hold signs for her in Texas. |
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I stopped at the intersection of Lovers Lane and Greenville this afternoon, and immediately noticed people standing on each corner (and on a couple of the medians) holding Hillary Clinton signs. Another thing immediately apparent, especially because of the race and gender issues in this presidential election, was that each person holding a sign was black.
I rolled down the window to ask one of the men what group the sign-holders belonged to, and he told me Southern Fried Marketing. I asked if they supported Hillary Clinton for president, and he replied: "Paid for."
It struck me as interesting, and I wondered why the Clinton campaign had chosen that intersection as opposed to others I had driven through (though I guess there could have been Hillary signs all over Dallas today). I don't know how long they were there because a couple of hours later when I drove through again, construction crews were tearing up the left turn lanes from Greenville onto Lovers, with no sign holders in sight. I'll be glad when those new double left turn lanes and right-hand turn lanes are finished.http://backtalkeastdallas.typepad.com/back_talk/2008/02/southern-fried.htmland Hillary supporters wonder why people think she is fake.
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Sun Mar-02-08 12:44 PM
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1. Didn't Obama pay people to hand out stuff for him in OH. I think she stole his idea. |
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Sun Mar-02-08 12:48 PM
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3. But to target AAs - that's different |
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Sun Mar-02-08 12:48 PM
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6. Some one find the thread but Obama's paid were also African American |
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Sun Mar-02-08 12:48 PM
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4. But to target AAs - that's different |
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Sun Mar-02-08 12:50 PM
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10. And as a black woman, who knows our community needs the money. I'm all for it., |
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Sun Mar-02-08 02:03 PM
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26. the suggestion is that the Clinton campaign is exploiting their worker's race |
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Edited on Sun Mar-02-08 02:03 PM by Johnny__Motown
for political gain.
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Sun Mar-02-08 09:07 PM
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41. I am a black man that knows our community here needs money... |
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too but if $50 gets us someone that will continue the elites agenda to run more of us into poverty, then its not worth the $50. I would rather go back to my childhood days for a few weeks to make up for that $50 and eat a ketchup sandwich or whatever the condiment of the week is. Our communities cant afford another leader that wants to destroy us even further and continue to turn us all into slaves to the system, its bad enough as it is. If I really need a sugar boost I can skip the soft drinks and go with sugar water if needed too, we cant allow this shit to continue to happen to us. We aren't fighting for ourselves at this point, we are fighting for our children and grandchildrens future now and need to make a respectable stand for them. Selling ourselves out for a few dollars isn't doing anything for the young ones that cant help themselves at this point.
I will say that I am happy that the person said that they were paid, when asked, that way people would understand that it was strictly a financial necessity and wouldn't think to vote for Clinton under any false belief. I live in the cheapest apartments in this city and I hate seeing kids wearing $60 shoes or $100 coats while they live in poverty. I was very happy with my grocery store shoes and hand me down clothes while growing up, it didn't affect my childhood, we still had a blast with the little we had.
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Sun Mar-02-08 09:19 PM
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"...If $50 gets us someone that will continue the elites agenda to run more of us into poverty, then its not worth the $50."
Ketchup sandwich...if only more here at DU knew what you are talking about.
It was fried baloney at my house!
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Mon Mar-03-08 05:52 AM
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48. We Had The None Sandwich |
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None of the good stuff just bread and mustard. Oh and maybe lettuce.
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Mon Mar-03-08 06:20 PM
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49. Oh, when we could afford it, that was a treat! |
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The problem is not just DU, its America in general. Too many people that have never felt poverty personally, cant seem to get an idea of how tough things can get. My mother was the rock in our family, working her ass off to provide a life for us and to this day I let her know daily how much it meant and what she means to me still to this day.
Many Americans have think they know how it is but have never been there and really think that poor folks just need to pull themselves up by their bootstraps. My problem with that SOLUTION, is that we didn't have any boots. Our shoes were from the grocery store, one pair for school or any other special occasion and the other pair were the old school shoes that talked to you when you walk if you know what I'm talking about. Damn things could have been considered flip flops the way they came apart... but hey, they were still soles on your feet.
The positive side, if its not too late, is that more of the middle class is now the governments target and they are feeling the pinch and will eventually be able to understand others situations better. I hope as more and more people get hit, they will realize that we all need to help each other through this or the system will have us all enslaved by poverty.
TOGETHER WE STAND, DIVIDED WE FALL!
First they came for the Jews and I did not speak out because I was not a Jew. Then they came for the Communists and I did not speak out because I was not a Communist. Then they came for the trade unionists and I did not speak out because I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak out for me.
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Mon Mar-03-08 02:15 AM
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In 2002 the Wisconsin Republican party was making a big to-do about voter fraud (still are, for that matter) and they announced they would have people stationed at all the polling places in Milwaukee to challenge anyone commiting fraud (or at least scare away the people they didn't want voting). They couldn't find volunteers from the suburbs so they hired people from the city to wear their lime green vests at the polling places. The workers were offered a decent amount of money and had lunch brought to them, and they spent the day sitting around. (I was monitoring a few wards and got a chance to converse with the "green vest" people, who were all African American.) At the end of their shift around 7 o'clock the captain of the workers picked them up so they could get to the Republican office to collect their pay and then go to their polling places to vote for Democrats. So it worked out nicely.
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Sun Mar-02-08 02:43 PM
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38. No, I think she stole it from the Republicans. |
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There was a Republican candidate running for the House or Senate who paid men to hold signs up for her. I can't remember the name -- only that it was a woman. It might have been two years ago or the General in 2004. Anyone remember that?
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Sun Mar-02-08 12:46 PM
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2. She's desperate and frustrated. |
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Sun Mar-02-08 01:00 PM
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14. Obama did the exact same thing in Ohio. Why is it different now that she is doing it? |
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Sun Mar-02-08 12:48 PM
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5. She's hiring people with small boobs ? |
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Sun Mar-02-08 12:50 PM
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9. Makes it easier to carry signs |
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Sun Mar-02-08 12:50 PM
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11. Wow... It took me way to long to figure out what you meant.... |
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lol... I was thinking "what kind of weird racist comment is that..." ohhh... AA's lol :rofl:
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Sun Mar-02-08 12:50 PM
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8. hiring Alcoholics Anonymous? |
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i bet she was giving them booze, that is low.
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Sun Mar-02-08 09:11 PM
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42. Yeah, she's paying them in booze - |
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I have 21 years in the program so don't yell at me....... :beer:
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Sun Mar-02-08 12:52 PM
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12. Everything is Potemkin Village |
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with hilary especially herself.
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Sun Mar-02-08 12:52 PM
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13. No, we laugh because you're figuring out for the first time, this is how |
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Sun Mar-02-08 01:12 PM
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17. This "we" you mention. How many people do you speak for? Why is the machine losing? |
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Sun Mar-02-08 01:19 PM
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18. Ask Karl Marx ... he'd say it was inevitable. Of course, you wouldn't |
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like what he predicts next. But seriously, we are those who are just a bit older and have been paying attention for longer than one silly season.
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Sun Mar-02-08 01:24 PM
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19. Right. This is that don't question the "experience" thing again, isn't it? n/t |
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Sun Mar-02-08 02:51 PM
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40. Put it this way: if you're shocked by this, I don't know if you're ready |
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for foreign affairs - and you're candidate touts his superior judgment, right? Maybe, if you didn't know this about domestic politics, you should consider your presidential choice.
Or not ... I'm just pointing out that the practice has a tradition, if not one honored by time.
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Sun Mar-02-08 01:53 PM
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20. I'm in my 50's. I speak for myself. Are you the official spokesperson for the 60's and over group? |
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I don't think my Dad hired or elected you, so how did you come by your position?
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Sun Mar-02-08 02:49 PM
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39. Are you denying the existence of of political machines or walking around money |
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C'mon ... you're entitled to your opinion, but only the young are excused from knowing the facts of life.
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Sun Mar-02-08 01:02 PM
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15. Didn't Hillary use Southern Fried Marketing in South Carolina? |
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I seem to recall that firm was identified as one of the ways she wasted money.
I could be wrong, might have been another firm with a similar name.
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Sun Mar-02-08 01:56 PM
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21. oh snap...she is STEALING what OBAMA did in OHIO and NE!! |
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Edited on Sun Mar-02-08 02:47 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
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Sun Mar-02-08 02:11 PM
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30. Correction: Buying the game |
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But, no matter. Let her pay some gonzo marketing team to pretend to be supporters. Barack Obama has about 200,000 volunteers working Texas. Hope Hillary's money is well spent. :)
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Sun Mar-02-08 01:58 PM
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22. why do sign wavers have to be paid? |
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most people do it because they love their candidate.
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Sun Mar-02-08 02:00 PM
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23. AA's...??? alcoholics anonymous? american airlines?...? |
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Sun Mar-02-08 02:06 PM
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27. it seems kind of rude to abreviate it to "AA"... |
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Edited on Sun Mar-02-08 02:06 PM by QuestionAll
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Sun Mar-02-08 02:08 PM
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29. I've never seen it done. |
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I'm not a big fan of abbreviations like that myself - BO, HC, etc all rub me the wrong way a little. Honestly, this will sound strange but, I think it's the effect of texting on our culture - everything's shorthanded now.
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Sun Mar-02-08 02:16 PM
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31. Actually I was in the military.... and my wife still is... |
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We are big on the acronyms in the military.
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Sun Mar-02-08 02:27 PM
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36. That's very true - and you have to be - |
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Some programs have 7+ words in them - acronyms are a must!!
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Sun Mar-02-08 02:19 PM
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34. and even moreso when the chosen abbreviation is already taken... |
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AA means 'alcoholics anonymous' to virtually everyone(in this country, anyway) when they hear/see it used.
like you, i've never come across it being used for "african-american"(and i generally use the term "black" myself- it may be an age thing, tho)
i've never sent a text message on my phone, so maybe i'm just not used to abbreviating everything.
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Sun Mar-02-08 02:01 PM
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25. Obama has 41,000 volunteers in Texas |
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The Clinton operation has 18 storefront offices across the state and has recruited 41,000 volunteers. They are bringing in thousands more from other states, all to knock on doors this weekend and encourage supporters to vote. http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/030108dnpolstrategy.392ccd4.html
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Sun Mar-02-08 02:08 PM
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28. Correction: Obama has 100,000 |
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According to that article:
"Mr. Obama started here from scratch but had 100,000 volunteers already working in Texas. Some estimate his number of volunteers has more than doubled since his staff arrived in the state."
oops. I'm wrong too! It appears he has two hundred thousand!
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Sun Mar-02-08 02:17 PM
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32. Maybe they live there. |
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So political campaigns are supposed to hire people not from the area to hold up signs? The next thing you are going to tell me is that she puts up billboards and signs in predominantly black neighborhoods and it is "immediately apparent" to you that there are black people in the pictures.
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Sun Mar-02-08 02:19 PM
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35. That doesn't prove AA were "targeted." |
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Whoever paid the people to hold the signs might have been paying anyone who would agree to hold the signs.
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Sun Mar-02-08 02:27 PM
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37. You're off your nut. This blog post you've linked to doesn't show ANY of what you're complaining of |
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EXCEPT that the sign holders HAPPEN TO BE BLACK (as you highlighted)!
This is an example of YOUR OWN SICK BIAS, not any slight from the Clinton campaign.
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Mon Mar-03-08 02:35 AM
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45. Very intresting quite funny actualy. |
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Mon Mar-03-08 03:38 AM
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46. Obama has never hired women or whites to work on his campaign. |
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I know, I know...that's different because Obama is totally great.
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Mon Mar-03-08 04:55 AM
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47. Why would she hire "Anti-Aircraft" to hold signs? |
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Just in case "the sky opens up"?
And, there's nothing like a vintage 88mm gun to get everyone's attention!
:hi:
(on the plus side, at least she's not knowingly hiring illegal aliens to hold signs)
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