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Sun Mar-02-08 04:22 PM
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Crist Says He'd Support a Repeat of Florida Democratic Primary |
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/bloomberg/20080302/pl_bloomberg/a_z1b1gct_nmWow, a republican govenor no less. Sounds good to me, and I am an Obama supporter Michigan should do the same thing, or do they have a problem disenfranchising voters?
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Sun Mar-02-08 04:24 PM
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1. For a second I read "Christ says..." (n/t) |
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Sun Mar-02-08 04:26 PM
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5. Hmmmmm, that is funny /nt |
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Sun Mar-02-08 04:25 PM
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2. Gamesmanship: He's a McCain supporter who'd like to see the bipartisan attacks on Obama continue |
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The worst thing that can happen to McCain is for the race to end after 3/4, here's the proof, as if any thinking person needed it.
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Sun Mar-02-08 04:28 PM
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8. I hear you, but both MI and FL should redo their primaries |
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that is the fairest wy to insure people get their vote. I have no doubt his motives are not honorable
I also am very skeptical that a Democrat can win that state. They have been screwed by this administration, and jeb, and still continue to vote for them
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Sun Mar-02-08 04:30 PM
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Even if Clinton exits I think they ought to be given a chance to have their say in a fair vote.
I support a revote! Fellow Obama supporters I suggest you do the same!
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Sun Mar-02-08 04:39 PM
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17. I don't think they should revote, and I'll tell you why. |
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I lived in Pgh. Pa. for 42 years. Our primary (and quite a few other states) were always sooo late in the season our votes NEVER COUNTED! I always went to vote, but it was for the locals or Governor or something. What's the difference between MY vote not making any difference, and FL. & MI?
The FL & MI Party leaders were being jerks! They wanted their primary to be early enough in the process so that they WOULDN'T be in the spot I described above. Well, they got too arrogant and figured we're going to do it our way anyway. I'm sure they figured "somebody will work something our for us later!" Well I don't think anyone should.
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Sun Mar-02-08 04:33 PM
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13. I'd feel better about it if Hillary, McCain and Bush weren't all using the same playbook |
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Edited on Sun Mar-02-08 04:35 PM by BeyondGeography
but now that Obama is the frontrunner, they are.
Extending the primary season only allows for this three-way tag-teaming of our eventual nominee to continue. As part of a deal for Hillary dropping out, Obama could agree to letting the previous results stand, thereby having Florida's votes count. This would be a soundest policy for him and for the party for the GE.
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Sun Mar-02-08 04:35 PM
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14. Most likely it isn't going to happen, but both MI and FL should not |
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have made their own rules, therefore, MI should make the same offer FL is doing I guess
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Sun Mar-02-08 04:25 PM
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3. I think any re-do would legally have to be a caucus. |
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Someone correct me if that is wrong. And, it would be costly. I heard an election organizer say they don't have the funds, someone would have to pay for it.
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Sun Mar-02-08 04:33 PM
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12. The Florida govener implied the state would pay for it, and FL is |
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in just almost as bad of economic shape as MI
Maybe the DNC could help out a little I guess
I am not too optomistic that it will occur, just saying it would be the right thing
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Sun Mar-02-08 04:26 PM
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4. Let's have a caucus down here. |
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Sun Mar-02-08 04:43 PM
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18. No damn caucuses. They are too easily manipulated. No wonder Obamites want them so badly. |
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A caucus consists of a small number of pssible voters, limited to healthy people who have three or five hours to stand around yelling at the top of their lungs. This usually eliminates the disabled, elderly or mothers who are taking care of their children or working. Since the latter for the most part support Hillary, this is totally unfair. This is the reason caucuses should be held only for organizing purposes, not voting or delegate awarding purposes. Hopefully this will be discussed at the convention, since Obama has concentrated on sending college kids to these caucuses who stamp out the elderly or older voter.
I know this for a fact, since I have a daughter, an Obama supporter, now a delegate, who told me all about how her caucus was run and how it was handled. Generally speaking, (in her own words) they are usually just yelled down, not allowed to speak, etc. She also said they usually left early and were despondent and she felt sorry for them. Of course, she told me she did not participate in this behavior, but that didn't stop her from Voting for Obama and speaking for him. Naturally, I do not tell my children who to vote for.
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Sun Mar-02-08 04:27 PM
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6. Unless they decide to do it soon, the whole issue may be moot. |
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If Hillary is forced out, what difference would a re-vote make? FL needs to make it clear by Tuesday whether and when a re-vote will happen. Since Hillary won FL big it could make a difference in her campaign plans.
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Sun Mar-02-08 04:31 PM
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10. First of all the Clinton camp made it clear unless Obama wins all 4 primaries |
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on Tuesday, they will stay in until Pa.
As an Obama supporter I want a redo for both MI and FL if at all possible
because that is what is the right thing
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Sun Mar-02-08 04:36 PM
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I mean she won it BEFORE all this crap happened and the people there have had MUCH more time to get to know Obama.
But ill say this. If she wins about 50 or so net delegates on tuesday then it might be up in the air a tiny bit.
Tho something tells me the best that can happen is she gain maybe 2-10 delegates net from having revotes. It will be quite sad if she tried to stick in the race longer to just be viable for those states. It is kind of too late for her to try to have it now.
No what ought to have happened is they made a deal to be included with the states on tuesday. Then we could have called it a mini super tuesday.
A revote will give the chance of them having their say in case they felt left out thanks to the fucking leadership in the rouge states.
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Sun Mar-02-08 04:28 PM
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7. Charlie Crist seems to be a decent guy |
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(and I'd like to point out that I've said repeatedly that I have no problem with Florida's votes being counted as is because they'll only bring Hillary Clinton a net gain of 25 delegates anyhow).
Oddly enough, Jeb bush appears to have been a passable governor of Florida as well. Then again I don't especially loathe Bush41. Somedays I wonder if I'm angry enough to post on DU at all!
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Sun Mar-02-08 04:31 PM
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11. Charlie Crist is very liked in florida and he's a moderate Gov |
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I hope he doesn't accept the VP nomination to run with McCain. Crist just needs to come out of the dark side of the republican party and join us. He also needs to come out of the closet. :)
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Sun Mar-02-08 04:46 PM
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19. Which means he needs to switch parties since he's gay. |
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VP? Never. He's gay folks. The horror. Dealbreaker in the GOP.
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Sun Mar-02-08 04:37 PM
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16. This sounds like a reasonable solution. |
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Edited on Sun Mar-02-08 04:38 PM by LiberalAndProud
If there is a way to seat Florida delegates, we need to find it. I think this is the issue that has the potentiontial to split our party.
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Sun Mar-02-08 04:48 PM
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20. I hope a revote takes place, but they are expensive |
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Any way to fairly ensure the voices of FL and MI are heard would be good. This way delegates could be fairly and accurately seated.
MI was especially messed up because Obama and Edwards didn't even have their names on the ballot here.
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Sun Mar-02-08 04:52 PM
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21. Oh YES! let's do it - I want Obama to campaign here - to get his name out |
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and earn some Florida love before the GE!
That would be so huge for Florida Dems - I am thrilled with the prospect!
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