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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 07:23 PM
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Will Obama Outperform the Polls Again? (Kos Diary)
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Will Obama Outperform the Polls Again?
by DHinMI
Sun Mar 02, 2008 at 03:32:39 PM PST

In less than 72 hours the polls will open in Texas, Ohio, Rhode Island and Vermont, and the polling suggests tight races. Pollster.com's average of Ohio polls is Hillary Clinton 49.8% and Barack Obama at 43.4%. Their average for Texas is Obama 47.5% and Clinton 44.7%. Polls are not predictors but snapshots of where the electorate is when the poll was taken. But as we are almost to election day, they should provide a good indication of what to expect Tuesday night.

But have the polls been accurate? Everyone knows about the consistent Obama lead in NH that didn't result in an Obama win, but a two point Clinton victory. But what about the polls since? An analysis of the poll results using the data at Pollster.com shows that Clinton has generally performed consistent with the public polls, while Obama has consistently performed much better than the average of the public polls.

Because of the small number of polls in the sample, these results can't be viewed as meeting strict standards for empirical study. However, a few calculations suggest that there is no Wilder Effect (AKA as a Bradley effect). In fact, the variance runs in the opposite direction, with Obama's strength being under-represented in the public polling. If there's any problem related to race, it's probably that the turnout models are under-representing Africa-American turnou.

A few notes about the table below. I did not include caucus states, as it's difficult to translate polling to caucus results. South Carolina is included in this analysis, but it's the only state where John Edwards was still actively campaigning. For all subsequent states, I've only included polls taken after Edwards dropped out. If there were not at least six polls taken after Edwards' withdrawal—and for a few important states like CT and MA there were not—I did not include them in the analysis. Finally, regarding California, I excluded Zogby polls, not because they were wrong, but because they were such outliers from every other poll, and ended up being 26 points off the final result.



Again, one should use these figures as suggestive, not as data meeting rigorous social science methodology. Having said that, there are a few observations which these figures support. First, Obama's strength among African-American voters is probably being underestimated by pollsters. The states with the largest African-American populations, such as SC, AL and GA are where Obama has outperformed the polls by the biggest margins. Second, it appears that the withdrawal of Edwards has probably helped Obama. Since Edwards dropped out so close to Super Tuesday, there were many early votes for him that appear to have gone to Obama in the subsequent contests.

There's one other factor that I have not seen mentioned anywhere else: the role of AFSCME, EMILY's List and the American Federation of Teachers in supporting the Clinton campaign with targeted appeals to increase the turnout of women voters. As I will explain in my next post this evening, these three groups may very well have kept Clinton from losing in New Hampshire, and early in the campaign, where they expended great resources, Clinton generally either won or kept the contest close. But their ability to prop up Hillary Clinton's candidacy may be diminishing.

If the pattern seen in these figures continues on Tuesday, Obama will win Texas and possibly Ohio as well. And if Obama wins both Texas and Ohio, it will be a near certainty that he will be our presidential nominee.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/3/2/16596/61053/380/467458
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 07:27 PM
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1. Must not get my hopes up!
What a cliffhanger:bounce:
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 07:29 PM
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3. Right. Tame those hopes. Work to do.
Edited on Sun Mar-02-08 07:29 PM by jefferson_dem
Hillary's the clear front-runner. I just hope Barack can keep it close. :bounce:
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adoraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 07:28 PM
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2. very possible, but we certainly shouldn't count on it
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 07:36 PM
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4. Very interesting Analysis....great work!
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 07:37 PM
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5. Another encouraging sign is that Obama adjusted his schedule to return to Ohio.
Edited on Sun Mar-02-08 07:41 PM by VolcanoJen
Obama hadn't planned to stop in Ohio this weekend, unless something in the internal polling turned around. He's very strong in southwestern, central and northern Ohio, but Hillary's been ahead in the northeast, northwest and southeast.

For him to make a last minute stop to Hocking/Nelsonville means, to me anyway, that something in the polls is telling him to get back to southeastern Ohio and fight for the vote.

Ohio University is the third largest college in Ohio; second largest is University of Cincinnati, and first is Ohio State in Columbus, by a long measure. With Obama's unprecedented ability to turn out the youth vote, every Ohio watcher should be encouraged that he seems to be polling strongest in Columbus and Cincinnati, with its large student population. It makes me happy he's fighting for those votes near Ohio University, now, too.

I'm on edge and it's tense, and it's going to be a nailbiter in Ohio, y'all.

Edited to add: Zogby's latest Ohio poll says Clinton is leading in Cincinnati, which is contradictory to the Cleveland Plain Dealer poll, showing Obama's strongest support in southwestern Ohio, just to be clear.
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 07:59 PM
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6. I just got back from Cincinnati. Lots of Hillary signs.
I was visiting family. my neice and nephew and my son are for Barack, my daughter in law is for Hillary. My sister and brother in law are undecided. I did what I could to get them to vote for Barack, stressing Hillary's politcally motivated vote on the IWR and Kyl/Lieberman and her absence on telecom immunity. We'll see.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 08:24 PM
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7. good article
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