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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 03:14 AM
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A Former Clintonite Concludes: The Clintons Don't Care About Anyone but Themselves.
I supported Bill for president twice, defended him through his terms and the Bush years, even when he signed the Telecom Act, caved on Welfare Reform, forfeited the remainder of his term for blowjobs, and befriended the Bush family. I waited in line for hours on multiple days to shake Bill Clinton's hand and get a signed copy of My Life, which I still have.

But this campaign has totally destroyed my esteem for the Clintons.

The Rove-style surrogate media/slime strategy.

The dismissal of losing South Carolina because of the black vote, saying even Jesse Jackson won South Carolina. Et tu, Bill.

The complete inability to come clean about Hillary's IWR vote, which cannot be spun as a vote for diplomacy if you read the resolution.

The "I take him at his word, he's not a Muslim, as far as I know," thing.

The corporate make everyone but the health care industry pay health care plan.

The whining about media coverage. Poor, poor Hillary.

The refusal to acknowledge lost states, completely dismissing the people who worked hard for her candidacy.

The shady caucus strategies, attempts to bend the system to her advantage.

The shameless flip-flop on Michigan and Florida. Every candidate agreed to forego those states, but now she wants their uncontested primaries counted out of sheer convenience.

It's becoming clearer and clearer that the Clintons are out for themselves above all, and would rather sink the party than hand over the keys.

Two more days.






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Hope And Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 03:16 AM
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1. No shit.Are we surprised?
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 03:19 AM
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2. 644
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 03:20 AM
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3. And that's only the half of it
maybe a quarter of it. I don't understand how anybody can want them to be the image of our party.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 03:21 AM
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4. About that two more days thing...
only true if Obama wins and wins pretty big.

If Hillary holds onto Ohio and RI, even by slim margins, I think we have another 8 weeks of this to look forward to, even though there isn't a chance in hell of her gaining the lead in pledged delegates by the convention. Obama won't be able to secure enough for a first ballot nomination either. So on we go.

Expect a lot of lawsuits in the future.

The sad thing is... the longer this goes on, the less electable EITHER will be against McCain.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 03:24 AM
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6. Which is exactly my point about handing over the keys or sinking the party.
Trust the people. They will see this kitchen sink strategy for the desperate ploy it is. It will turn them off.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 03:48 AM
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The candidates travel in a bubble.
A bubble of their supporters, campaign workers and friends. They all believe so hard in the candidate that , for the candidate, it is a "betrayal" to quit, even when quiting is the best thing for all concerned.

Listen to Hillary in the sixty minutes interview... even though she took a walloping in the last 11 contests, she got more money in (a lot more money) and she can float the campaign through to the bitter end now, financially. And the poll numbers, while not allowing her the hope to win the nomination, allow her to hope to win more primaries. Even if they are small primaries or close wins. It's enough to hang her hat on and figure that if she just flings enough poo around at Obama, it will start to stick. And that, coupled with some lawsuits to seat the FL and MI delegates, she figures to threaten to take the party down unless she is the nominee.

And she probably will.

Call it scorched earth or overwhelming hubris, she isn't getting out of this thing gracefully... unless Obama wins all four on Tuesday and does so with more than 5 to 10 points over Hillary in each and every contest. Even then I won't bet that she bows out with an endorsement of Obama.

I know I'm very negative on this... but I also believe that I'm right.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 05:15 AM
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22. I hope it's not that bad.
I get the impression here and there that Hill will know when to get out. Right now isn't that time. It all depends on just how bad she wants it, and how unwilling she is to deal with the reality that she has already lost. It could go either way, but I don't blame you for your skepticism.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 05:20 AM
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24. dupe.
Edited on Mon Mar-03-08 05:21 AM by tasteblind
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 12:31 PM
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73. I figure the "kitchen sink" smear strategy is aimed at the superdelegates ...
... as an audience, as much as today's 4 primary states. If she can politically damage Obama in the eyes of the superdelegates, I figure she thinks they'll hand her the nomination.
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Bullet1987 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 01:02 PM
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75. I agree lapfog_1...it's a scorched earth campaign they are waging now
which makes her staying in even more self-centered. I think they're also hoping the Rezko trial turns in their favor and some scandal brews with Obama's name in it. So far Obama has just taken some heat for knowing the guy...but it's nothing serious.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 03:27 AM
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9. The super delegates will go Obama and pretty fast unless Hill wins big.
Also some of hers will defect.

It won't go to the convention, because the rest of the party won't let it.
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stratomagi Donating Member (811 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 03:30 AM
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11. Yeah I mean look at this place...
we've spent the last 8 (how long has DU been around?) years sharpening our daggers on the republicans and now we've got them pointed at each other. I hope this is over by Wednesday morning, but then again I'm an Obama supporter.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 03:23 AM
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5. You are not alone.
I voted for Bill Clinton at two national conventions as a delegate from California and every word you wrote applies to me, too.

In my bedroom is a photograph of Bill Clinton speaking in Sacramento and I'm standing right behind him. This was in 1996.

But the ambitions of this couple has always trumped doing the right thing. And worse, the personal betrayals by them against some of their most loyal friends over the years is simply too much to ignore.

I defended Bill's blowjob to my mother who never --- not even once --- accepted my rationalizations for his bad behavior and lies.

Hillary's shitty comments about 'taking him at his word' on the Muslim smear was simply breathtaking to watch. I don't even know the depth of my disgust with that yet.

Texas is going to be a very big loss for Hillary.

Apparently, the Clintons are hell-bound and determined to drag the party down for their egos. Tuesday night will tell me everything I need to know about them. I want to believe they are honorable people and that I wasn't a fool all those years. It's really getting hard to even want to give them the benefit of the doubt.

You are not alone.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 03:27 AM
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8. Tuesday night will tell me everything I need to know about Ohio and Texas, as well.
Remember, Ohio is an open primary, but the polls are likely Democrats, so they probably understate Obama's non-registered Dem support.
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ArfDogMNO Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 03:34 AM
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13. regardless of party,
I am a professional political realist.

I start every day believing that politicians are looking at how to best advance their long-term interests at my expense.

I have a couple thousand years of history to support the general assertation that this is indeed the case.

In the modern US example, look at 1) the influence of multinational corporations on US trade and foreign policy 2) direct contributions from foreign entities to US politicians (present and former, in the case of the clintons, where the 'charitable trust' is such a glaring issue even if you are optically blind), and 3) other combinations of the above interests to influence US policy.

One can only explain the ongoing unrestricted food- and drug- safety trade issue with China in the above context - they bought us. It is baffling otherwise, we block far smaller countries for smaller things.

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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 03:36 AM
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15. Of course self-interest is a part.
But these people have betrayed almost every principle of the people that got them where they are out of sheer convenience. It's slimy even by politician standards.
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ArfDogMNO Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 03:46 AM
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16. Disagree. We have, as a country, just been lucky, historically.
Edited on Mon Mar-03-08 03:52 AM by ArfDogMNO
In the bulk of the world, government service is understood as a path to self-enrichment. We have this germanic notion that this is not the case (doubt it? ask the romano-european nations about this.)

"It's slimy even by politician standards."

It's normal, or, even worse, VERY normal.

We are spoiled, in terms of realpolitical approaches to graft and corruption in politics.

EDIT - whatever one may think of other players on the national scene, the Clintons are bad news in this area. The 100,000,000$ contribution to his charitable trust by the Uranium guy who got a deal in kazak. should raise the eyebrows of even the most ardent believers.

QUIZ - where do the funds in a charitable trust run by a former president go?
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 11:02 AM
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57. Agree Arfdog
Overall, we've been pretty lucky with the people we've elected as president.

Even the lowest rated like Herbert Hoover were decent honorable men who did what they thought was right.
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 06:13 AM
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29. I honestly believe there is more at stake for them than their egos.
This attempt to get back in the White House is beginning to reek of desperation of a magnitude I've never seen in sane people. In my gut I believe they will be exposed big time by a democratic president that believes in open government. And they just can't have that. The Bushes and Clintons have enjoyed each others protection for years and they've grown quite accustomed to it.

There is something so unsavory and suspicious about everything they have done during this campaign. Why on earth do we have people here trying to help her get elected?
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Mme. Defarge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 03:04 PM
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64. I wouldn't go down that path, instead,
I believe it is simply the determination of the corporate over-class to stack the deck in their favor with two candidates in the GE representing a one-party system. Hillary was supposed to be one of those candidates. Everything was in place for it to be inevitable.

Then, Obama comes out of nowhere and derails the best laid plans, that have been years in the making. At first, he was the ideal competitor for her -- sharp, energetic and without a chance against her money, connections, and self-touted experience. It wasn't supposed to turn out this way.

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 01:13 AM
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69. You're the first post I've read
that says what I've been thinking ..what exactly do they think is going to happen if she doesn't get the nom? They're acting like she turns into toad.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 03:25 AM
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7. Did you say something about whining?
come the hell on....
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 03:28 AM
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10. But you won't answer any of the charges above, will you?
Because you can't.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 03:34 AM
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14. back this one up, then, if you can, ok, then we can talk -
Edited on Mon Mar-03-08 03:35 AM by Skip Intro
"The refusal to acknowledge lost states, completely dismissing the people who worked hard for her candidacy."

yeah, when did she do that?


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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 03:48 AM
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17. Wisconsin, for one. Keep it coming.
Edited on Mon Mar-03-08 03:52 AM by tasteblind
Edit: Of course, there was the entire Potomac primary as well:

With Clinton, those watching the election coverage were treated to a stump speech. The new speech did not follow the traditional post-election formula. Clinton did not mention Obama's wins; instead she decided to talk about cowboys and hats, claiming Obama was all talk and no action.

The odd part of Clinton's speech that night was her lack of talk. Not mentioning a loss simply because the loss is bad news has been in the campaign's rule book from the beginning of the primary season. After a defeat, what little remarks Clinton grants to a day that did not go as planned are minor, if they exist at all.

http://media.www.dailycollegian.com/media/storage/paper874/news/2008/02/20/EditorialOpinion/Clinton.Leaving.Little.Content.In.PostElection.Speeches-3220457.shtml
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 10:24 AM
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54. Remember the night of the South Carolina Primary?
The first person to come out to give a speech after every major news outlet projected a landslide victory for Obama was... Bill Clinton. The networks took his speech live, and stuck with him for about 15 minutes, until it became clear that he wasn't conceding defeat in South Carolina, and that Hillary was in an entirely different location.

To me, that moment remains one of the most troubling incidents that happened during this campaign.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 12:45 PM
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74. Hell, that seems like high tea in light of events since then. n/t
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earthlover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 07:51 AM
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39. Hillary made a concession speech that did not even make a token thank you to her supporters....
neither did she congratulate the winner....or even concede.

This was a speech that she used a teleprompter on. So it was not off the cuff, it was planned that way.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 03:31 AM
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12. The nest several weeks will tell us a lot about their character
If she does not win BOTH Texas and Ohio, she is done, and should hang it up for the good of her party and the things she claims to believe in and care about.

If she fails to meet the test that her husband set out (winning both TX and OH) and steps aside and ednroses Obama, then we will know that she is a team player.

Then again, she may win both of those states allowing her to move on (though odds are still against her winning).

We'll see.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 09:58 AM
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47. Like the last several weeks weren't enough? n/t
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 03:54 AM
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18. The Clintons don't need "supporters" who become jellyfish as soon as the going gets tough.
That said, thanks for your past support and adios. :hi:
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 03:59 AM
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20. Hahaha...like when Bill signed the Telecom Act, or when Hill voted for war?
You've got to be fucking kidding me.
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shenmue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 06:27 AM
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31. How about Clinton's troop withdrawal plan?
Isn't she talking about taking out tens of thousands every month?

Oh yeah, but that's not pro-war at all, is it?

Just keep up the Obama supporter lies. People who actually listen to Clinton will know better.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 06:43 AM
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34. Please.....
...that does NOT make up for her YES vote on the IWR. Take a clue....
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 07:00 AM
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37. It's the least she could do, considering she sent them there. n/t
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 10:10 AM
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48. Did you HEAR her FLOOR SPEECH against Iraq drawdown in June2006? A couple months later
she changed her mind, after Joe Lieberman lost his primary.

Hillary asked to SPEAK in the Senate to tear down Kerry and Feingold's Iraq withdrawal timetable in June 2006, and now she pretends like she is the one who came up with the plan.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 10:36 AM
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55. "..bipartisan support for this resolution makes its success in the United Nations
Edited on Mon Mar-03-08 10:36 AM by oasis
more likely, and therefore, war, less likely". HRC
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 01:01 AM
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68. I see what your problem is.
You are looking at what hillary said....NOT at what she has done.

1) Hillary votes FOR the Authorization to use Force in Iraq.

2) Hillary tells you that it will make WAR less likely.

3)You believe her as the tanks roll into Baghdad.

Yes, I see your problem.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 07:58 AM
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41. We don't need the Clintons
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 03:57 AM
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19. Did Bill say "EVEN Jesse Jackson won South Carolina"'?
Or did he say that Jesse Jackson won South Carolina in 1984 and again in 1988. Which is a FACT.

It proves that South Carolina does not have a 100% track record in picking the Democratic nominee.

As I see it, the "Race Card" is not about what Bill Clinton said, but the way it was interpreted by others.

And I am not a huge fan of the Clintons, either.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 04:41 AM
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21. Here it is:
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 05:19 AM
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23. Thanks for confirming that my memory is accurate
:hi:
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 05:23 AM
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25. Yeah, he didn't say "even," but it was clearly meant as a put-down in the context of,
"What does it say about Barack Obama that it takes two of you?" He tried to backtrack and say they both ran good campaigns. :)
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 06:03 AM
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27. It was clearly meant as a historical fact about the South Carolina primary.
It's a fact that just because a candidate wins the South Carolina primary, doesn't mean that he or she will go on to win the Democratic nomination.

It's also a fact that 2008 is not the first time that an African American candidate won the Democratic Primary in South Carolina.

Either way, it is a stretch to smear Bill Clinton for "playing the race card".
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 06:11 AM
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28. We take Bush to task for code words, but let the Clintons off the hook?
The implication is clear. Even the corporate media got the joke. He was trying to say that any black guy can win South Carolina, and it doesn't mean anything. It's insulting to South Carolina, black people, Jesse, and Obama.
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 06:34 AM
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33. That's your interpretation of what Bill said.
Someone else might have a different interpretation of what "the implication" was meant to be.

It doesn't necessarily mean that one person is right and the other person is wrong.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 07:00 AM
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36. Bill's a world class communicator. One would have to assume that he doesn't
accidentally throw out double-entendres, especially to the press.
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 10:19 AM
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51. How is "Jesse Jackson" a double-entendre?
"Could you come and meet me in the Oval Office for some Jackson Action?" :eyes:
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 02:17 PM
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78. Precisesly. This is the exact same point I've been making ...
... in regards to Hillary's qualifying statements on Sunday's '60 Minutes.'

Also, see this post, just below, linking to pre-SC reports of the Clinton campaign setting low expections for SC results, based on the racial demographics favoring Obama.

I'll leave it for more informed people to characterize Bill's comments as "playing the race card"; however, his reference to Jackson's '84 & '88 success was clearly based on race.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 10:16 AM
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49. I Wouldn't Say It Was a Stretch. It Was Remarkably Easy
All it needed was the support of people who wanted a reason to trash Bill.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 01:48 PM
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76. What Bill said... after and before.
Edited on Tue Mar-04-08 02:09 PM by krkaufman
The controversial exchange...

Reporter: "What does it say about Barack Obama that it takes two of you (Hillary *and* Bill) to beat him?"

Clinton: (chuckle) "That's just a bait, too. Jesse Jackson won in South Carolina twice, in '84 and '88. And... he ran a good campaign; and Senator Obama's run a good campaign, here. He's run a good campaign everywhere. (inaudible) He's a good candidate with a good organization."

Sure, it is possible that Bill was simply recalling the candidate who, prior to Bill's own successful candidacy, had twice-won South Carolina but failed to win the Democratic nomination.

However, in the same way that Hillary's recent '60 Minutes' comments relate to her current "kitchen sink" attack strategy, Bill's comments were not simply isolated statements. They were uttered after a week of Clinton campaign hedging on the expected South Carolina outcome, based on the racial demographics in South Carolina, felt to favor Obama.

By spending much of the week in such places as Arizona, California, and New Jersey, Hillary Clinton sent the unstated message that South Carolina didn't matter to her as much as it did to Obama.

And by reminding people of the influence of African-Americans voters here, the Clinton campaign seemed to communicate that the Palmetto State is a special case with little or no bearing on the rest of the campaign.

On Wednesday, Bill Clinton told voters that "people tell me Hillary doesn't have a chance of winning here," and that Obama's lead in a heavily black electorate is "understandable because people are proud when someone who they identify with emerges for the first time."


Viewed from the context of the South Carolina campaign, rather than looking at Bill's statement in isolation, there can be little doubt as to Bill's meaning. Paraphrasing... both Jesse and Barack won in South Carolina because of the racial demographics of the state favoring an African-American candidate.

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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 05:47 AM
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26. Hillary: "It's my party and I'll cry if I want to, cry if I want to, cry if I want to, you would cry
too, if it happened to you."

Too late for the crocodile tears, Hillary.
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shenmue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 06:26 AM
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30. "The Rove-style surrogate media/slime strategy" belongs to Obama supporters.
Edited on Mon Mar-03-08 06:28 AM by shenmue
Why don't you talk about troop withdrawal plans? Oh, because Clinton has one and Obama doesn't.

Why don't you talk about a workable and comprehensible national health care plan? Because Clinton proffers one, Obama doesn't.

Why don't you talk about job creation and long-range economic strategies? Because those are Clinton's ideas, not Obama's.

Why don't you talk about a long record of working for this country? Clinton can say that, Obama can't.



I can't believe you complain about the Clinton campaign, but your entire post is name-calling, beginning with your headline and going right through every line.

:eyes:

Remember when news about the Primaries was filled with actual posts about the primaries, not just personal diatribes?

I don't believe for one second that you used to support Clinton. You sound like another immature, mean-spirited Obama supporter. Then again, that's pretty much redundant.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 08:06 AM
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44. What you said has nothing to do with Obama surrogates sliming Hillary.
Because they aren't. But Hillary stands on stage with people like Bob Johnson who try to raise Obama's admitted drug use without actually raising Obama's admitted drug use. That's one example to your none.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 10:20 AM
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52. Jesse Jackson Jr Went on National TV
..there were tears that melted the Granite State. And those are tears that Mrs. Clinton cried on that day, clearly moved voters. She somehow connected with those voters.

But those tears also have to be analyzed. They have to be looked at very, very carefully in light of Katrina, in light of other things that Mrs. Clinton did not cry for, particularly as we head to South Carolina where 45% of African-Americans who participate in the Democratic contest, and they see real hope in Barack Obama.

And:

We saw something very clever in the last week of this campaign coming out of Iowa, going into New Hampshire, we saw a sensitivity factor. Something that Mrs. Clinton has not been able to do with voters that she tried in New Hampshire.

Not in response to voters -- not in response to Katrina, not in response to other issues that have devastated the American people, the war in Iraq, we saw tears in response to her appearance. So her appearance brought her to tears, but not hurricane Katrina.


http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/01/obama_campaign_cochair_questions_hillarys_tears.php

What the hell is that, if not one of Obama's surrogates sliming Hillary?
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 10:41 AM
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56. Hillary's "tears" were for the America, Katrina included. Junior Jesse Jackson is an
Edited on Mon Mar-03-08 10:42 AM by oasis
absolute ass.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 10:17 AM
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50. True. The Only Way Clinton Can Get Negative Press on Obama Is To Go On Nat'l TV
Edited on Mon Mar-03-08 10:17 AM by Crisco
And do the medias' jobs for them.
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blocker Donating Member (265 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 06:31 AM
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32. It's the same for me!
Edited on Mon Mar-03-08 06:32 AM by blocker
I cannot stand her or her campaign anymore, every time she's on tv, i switch the channel, it's that bad! I'm also getting fed up of many of her cry babies supporters!
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From The Left Donating Member (670 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 06:48 AM
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35. A Truly Despicable Woman
Hillbilly and Billhilly deserve one another.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 07:00 AM
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38. A quick glance at Hillary's record instantly dispels this bullshit.
Edited on Mon Mar-03-08 07:03 AM by Perry Logan
Senator Clinton supported the interests of the NARAL Pro-Choice America 100 percent in 2005.

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the The Humane Society of the United States 100 percent in 2005.

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the National Trust for Historic Preservation 100 percent in 2005.

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People 95 percent in 2005.

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the Leadership Conference on Civil Rights 100 percent in 2005.

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the National Education Association 100 percent in 2005.

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the American Wilderness Coalition 100 percent in 2005.

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the Defenders of Wildlife Action Fund 100 percent in 2005.

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the League of Conservation Voters 95 percent in 2005.

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the Children's Defense Fund 100 percent in 2005.

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the American Association of University Women 100 percent in 2005.

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the National Organization for Women 100 percent in 2005.

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the U.S. Public Interest Research Group 91 percent in 2006.

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the U.S. Public Interest Research Group 100 percent in 2005

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence 100 percent from 1988-2003 (Senate) or 1991-2003 (House).

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the American Public Health Association 80 percent in 2005.

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the International Brotherhood of Boilermakers 100 percent in 2005.

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the Service Employees International Union 100 percent in 2005.

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the United Auto Workers 93 percent in 2005.

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the AFL-CIO 93 percent in 2005.

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the United Electrical Radio and Machine Workers 84 percent in 2005.

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Worker 100 percent in 2005.

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the American Federation of State, County & Municipal Employees 88 percent in 2005.

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the American Federation of Government Employees 83 percent in 2005.

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the National Committee for an Effective Congress 95 percent in 2005.

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the Americans for Democratic Action 100 percent in 2005.

According to the National Journal - Composite Liberal Score's calculations, in 2005, Senator Clinton voted more liberal on economic, defense and foreign policy issues than 80 percent of the Senators.

According to the National Journal - Liberal on Social Policy's calculations, in 2005, Senator Clinton voted more liberal on social policy issues than 83 percent of the Senators.

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the Alliance for Retired Americans 100 percent in 2005.

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the Disabled American Veterans 92 percent in 2005.

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the Bread for the World 100 percent in 2003-2004.

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the The Partnership for the Homeless 100 percent in 2003-2004.
http://www.vote-smart.org/issue_rating_category.php?can_id=WNY99268

She was promoting universal coverage before it was cool. Furthermore she helped to create the SCHIP program. And most importantly she was dead on in the debate the other week where she said political will was the most important thing needed to push health care reform through and we know without a doubt she has that.

She has fougt unrelentingly for a woman's right to choose as well as women's rights both domestically and abroad

Create a Strategic Energy Fund - Hillary has proposed a Strategic Energy Fund that would inject $50 billion into research, development and deployment of renewable energy, energy efficiency, clean coal technology, ethanol and other homegrown biofuels. Hillary's proposal would give oil companies a choice: invest in renewable energy or pay into the fund. Hillary's proposal would also eliminate oil company tax breaks and make sure that oil companies pay their fair share for drilling on public lands. Instead of sending billions of dollars to the Middle East for their oil, Hillary's proposal will create a new clean energy industry in America and create tens of thousands of jobs here.

Champion a Market-Based "Cap and Trade" Approach - Hillary supports a market-based, cap and trade approach to reducing carbon emissions and fight global warming. This approach was used successfully to limit sulfur dioxide and reduce levels of acid rain in the 1990s. By capping the amount of emissions in the environment and allowing corporations to buy and sell permits, this approach offers corporations a flexible, cost-efficient method to do their share to reduce emissions and combat global warming. The program will reduce emissions, drive the development of clean technologies, and create a market for projects that store carbon dioxide.

20% Renewable Electricity Standard by 2020 - Hillary believes we need to shift our reliance on high carbon electricity sources to low-carbon electricity sources by investing in renewable energy sources, such as solar and wind. As President, she'll work to require power companies to obtain 20 percent of their energy from renewable sources by 2020.

Make Federal Buildings Carbon Neutral - Hillary believes that the federal government should lead the way in reducing carbon emissions from buildings. Buildings account for 40 percent of U.S. greenhouse gas emissions, and the federal government owns or leases more than 500,000. Hillary would require all federal buildings to steadily increase the use of green design principles, energy efficient technologies, and to generate energy on-site from solar and other renewable sources. By 2030, all new federal buildings and major renovations would be carbon neutral, helping to fight global warming and cutting the $5.6 billion that the federal government spends each year on heating, cooling and lighting.

Protecting Against Exposure to Toxic Chemicals - Hillary wants to make the products we use safer, especially for children. There are tens of thousands of chemicals used in the U.S. and hundreds of new chemicals introduced each year, but little health testing is conducted for many of them. Hillary would require chemical companies to prove that new chemicals are safe before they are put on the market, and would set more stringent exposure standards for kids. She would also create a "priority list" of existing chemicals and require testing to make sure they are safe. To improve our understanding of the links between chemicals and diseases like cancer, Hillary would create an "environmental health tracking network" that ties together information about pollution and chronic diseases.

Hillary's Record

In the White House, Hillary led efforts to make adoption easier, to expand early learning and child care, to increase funding for breast cancer research, and to help veterans suffering from Gulf War syndrome who had too often been ignored in the past. She helped launch a national campaign to prevent teen pregnancy and helped create the Adoption and Safe Families Act of 1997, which moved children from foster care to adoption more quickly and the number of children who have moved out of foster care into adoption has increased dramatically.

She was instrumental in designing and championing the State Children's Health Insurance Program, which has provided millions of children with health insurance. She battled the big drug companies to force them to test their drugs for children and to make sure all kids get the immunizations they need through the Vaccines for Children Program. Immunization rates dramatically improved after the program launched.

Hillary has been a leading member of the Environment and Public Works Committee since she was elected to the Senate. Today, she chairs the Superfund and Environmental Health Subcommittee and in that capacity has promoted legislation to evaluate and protect against the impact of environmental pollutants on people's health and clean up toxic waste.

Global warming and Clean Air
Spoken out forcefully about the need to tackle global warming in hearings, speeches, rallies and on the Senate floor and co-sponsored "cap and trade" legislation.
Worked to reduce air pollution that causes asthma and other respiratory diseases by writing and helping to pass new laws to clean up exhaust from school buses, and other diesel-powered equipment.
Supported legislation to reduce pollution from power plants, including harmful emissions of sulfur dioxide, nitrogen oxides, mercury, and carbon dioxide - emissions that contribute to poor air quality, smog, acid rain, global warming, and mercury contamination of fish.
Aggressively fought the Bush Administration's ill-advised attempts to weaken clean air laws.

Improving Water Quality and Protecting Drinking Water
Helped to overturn the Bush Administration's attempt to allow more arsenic in drinking water.
Cosponsored legislation to protect lakes, rivers and coastal waters by fighting the spread of destructive invasive species, such as the zebra mussel.
Helped ot pass new clean water laws, including measures to protect New York City's water supplies and clean up Long Island Sound.

Protecting Public Lands
Fought oil company efforts to pen the Artic Wildlife Refuge in Alask and Pacific and Atlantic coastal waters to drilling.
Cosponsored the Roadless Area Conservation Act, which prohibits road construction and logging in unspoiled, roadless areas of the National Forest System, and voted for additional funding and manpower to combat forest fires in the west.

Reducing Dangerous Chemicals and Cleaning Up Hazardous Waste
Supported legislation to restore the "polluter pays" principle by reinstating a chemical company fee to fund cleanups of highly contaminated "Superfund" waste sites.
Cosponsored the "kids-Safe Chemical Act," which requires chemical companies to provide health and safety before putting new chemicals in consumer products.
Proposed legislation to create an environmental health tracking network to enable us to better understand the impact of environmental hazards on human health and well-being.

Tackling the Toxic Legacy of 9/11
Pushed for health care benefits for first responders, residents and others whose health has been impacted from breathing the toxic dust and smoke in New York City after 9/11.
http://www.mydd.com/story/2007/8/20/134810/677

Hillary Clinton co-founded the Arkansas Advocates for Children and Families, a state-level alliance with the Children's Defense Fund, in 1977. In late 1977, President Jimmy Carter (for whom she had done 1976 campaign coordination work in Indiana) appointed her to the board of directors of the Legal Services Corporation, and she served in that capacity from 1978 through the end of 1981. For much of that time she served as the chair of that board, the first woman to do so. During her time as chair, funding for the Corporation was expanded from $90 million to $300 million, and she successfully battled against President Ronald Reagan's initial attempts to reduce the funding and change the nature of the organization.

Following the November 1978 election of her husband as Governor of Arkansas, Clinton became First Lady of Arkansas in January 1979, her title for a total of twelve years. Bill appointed her chair of the Rural Health Advisory Committee the same year, where she successfully obtained federal funds to expand medical facilities in Arkansas' poorest areas without affecting doctors' fees.

Hillary Clinton chaired the Arkansas Educational Standards Committee from 1982 to 1992, where she sought to bring about reform in the state's court-sanctioned public education system. One of the most important initiatives of the entire Clinton governorship, she fought a prolonged but ultimately successful battle against the Arkansas Education Association to put mandatory teacher testing as well as state standards for curriculum and classroom size in place. She introduced Arkansas' Home Instruction Program for Preschool Youth in 1985, a program that helps parents work with their children in preschool preparedness and literacy.

And a bit of stuff from the White House :

The First Lady worked to investigate reports of an illness that affected veterans of the Gulf War, which became known as the Gulf War syndrome. Together with Attorney General Janet Reno, Clinton helped create the Office on Violence Against Women at the Department of Justice. In 1997, she initiated and shepherded the Adoption and Safe Families Act, which she regarded as her greatest accomplishment as First Lady.

Along with Senator Ted Kennedy, she was the major force behind the State Children's Health Insurance Program in 1997, a federal effort that provided state support for children whose parents were unable to provide them with health coverage.<124> She promoted nationwide immunization against childhood illnesses and encouraged older women to seek a mammogram to detect breast cancer, with coverage provided by Medicare.<125> She successfully sought to increase research funding for prostate cancer and childhood asthma at the National Institutes of Health.<43> The First Lady worked to investigate reports of an illness that affected veterans of the Gulf War, which became known as the Gulf War syndrome.<43> Together with Attorney General Janet Reno, Clinton helped create the Office on Violence Against Women at the Department of Justice.<43> In 1997, she initiated and shepherded the Adoption and Safe Families Act, which she regarded as her greatest accomplishment as First Lady.<43> As First Lady, Clinton hosted numerous White House Conferences, including ones on Child Care (1997),<126> Early Childhood Development and Learning (1997),<127> and Children and Adolescents (2000),<128> and the first-ever White House Conferences on Teenagers (2000)<129> and Philanthropy (1999).<130>

Hillary Clinton traveled to over eighty countries during this time,<131> breaking the mark for most-travelled First Lady held by Pat Nixon.<132> In a September 1995 speech before the Fourth World Conference on Women in Beijing, Clinton argued very forcefully against practices that abused women around the world and in China itself.<133> She was one of the most prominent international figures at the time to speak out against the treatment of Afghan women by the Islamist fundamentalist Taliban that had seized control of Afghanistan.<134><135> She helped create Vital Voices, an international initiative sponsored by the United States to promote the participation of women in the political processes of their countries.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton

More:
http://clinton.senate.gov/issues/nationalsecurity/israel/index.cfm
http://clinton.senate.gov/issues/nationalsecurity/darfur

The following are polls from progressive groups, rating Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, on how often they vote for progressive issues. For each group, http://www.theleftcoaster.com/archives/011142.php

Clinton Vs. Barack Obama (progressivepunch)
Overall Progressive Score: 92% 90%
Aid to Less Advantaged People at Home and Abroad: 98% 97%
Corporate Subsidies 100% N/A
Education, Humanities and the Arts 88% 100%
Environment 92% 100%
Fair Taxation 97% 100%
Family Planning 88% 80%
Government Checks on Corporate Power 95% 97%
Healthcare 98% 94%
Housing 100% 100%
Human Rights & Civil Liberties 82% 77%
Justice for All: Civil and Criminal 94% 91%
Labor Rights 91% 91%
Making Government Work for Everyone, Not Just the Rich or Powerful 94% 90%
War and Peace 80% 86%
easures to protect New York City's water supplies and clean up Long Island Sound.

HILLARY'S EXPERIENCE ON THE WORLD STAGE:

Her historic speech at the UN Fourth World Conference on Women in Beijing in 1995 not only galvanized women around the world, it helped spawn a movement that led to advances politically, legally, economically, and socially for women in many countries over the next decade. Among other initiatives, she spearheaded the Clinton Administration's efforts to combat the global crisis of human trafficking. She persuaded the First Ladies of the Americas to use their collective power to eradicate measles and improve girls' education throughout the western Hemisphere. And she is widely credited with helping women in Kuwait finally win the right to vote.

As First Lady and now as a two-term senator who represents the most ethnically diverse state in the nation and who sits on the Armed Services Committee, Hillary Clinton has become a fixture on international issues over the past 15 years. She has traveled to more than 80 countries, going from barrios to rural villages to meetings with heads of state. She has consulted with dozens of world leaders - Nelson Mandela, King Abdullah, Tony Blair among them -- on matters as diverse as America and NATO's roles in Kosovo, eradicating poverty in the Third World, and the plight of women living under the Taliban in Afghanistan.

Today, she is one of the most influential voices in the world on human rights, democracy, and the promotion of a "new internationalism" in foreign affairs that calls for a balanced use of military force, diplomacy, and social development to strengthen American interests and security globally.

While American First Ladies historically have made great (and often overlooked) contributions to our nation, Hillary Clinton's wide-ranging experience on international issues as First Lady is unprecedented. Indeed, she is the only First Lady to have delivered foreign policy addresses at major gatherings of the United Nations, the World Bank, the Council on Foreign Relations, and the World Economic Forum.

Hillary Clinton has been fighting for the rights of children for special needs for decades. In her first job out of law school working for the Children's Defense Fund, she conducted research that led to Congress passing the Education for All Handicapped Children Act of 1975, the landmark bill mandating that all children with disabilities be educated in the public school system. later, she helped improve the education of children with special needs by working to reauthorize the Individuals with Disabilities in Education Act. In 2005, she sponsored an amendment to increase funding for the act by $4 billion dollars. She also cosponsored the Personal Excellence for Children with Disabilities Act, a bill that promised to help schools recruit and retain new special education teachers, and better prepare general education teachers and staff to work with children with special needs.

Most recently, she has called for greatly expanded funding to the National Institute for Health to investigate treatments for children with disabilities. And she has put forth a comprehensive and detailed plan to help children and families affected by autism, with numerous elements that correspond very closely to what families in the autism community have been demanding for years.

some points on her legal career:

1969 Truehaft, Walker and Bernstein in Oakland, one of the most liberal law firms in the country. They defended the Panthers.
1970 Yale University - city legal services, provided free legal advice for the poor.
1971 Staff attorney, Children's Defense Fund in Cambridge, Massachusetts
1971 Carnegie Council on Children, legal consultant.
1974 Impeachment Inquiry staff in Washington, D.C., advising the House Committee on the Judiciary during the Watergate scandal.
1974 University of Arkansas, Fayetteville School of Law - One of only two female faculty members.
1976 Worked pro bono on child advocacy.
1978 Jimmy Carter appoints Clinton to the board of the Legal Services Corporation.


Education

Wellesley College where she majored in political science.
Yale Law School, where she served on the Board of Editors of the Yale Review of Law and Social Action.

Political Activist Experience

Pragmatic Liberal

Always fascinated by radicalism, she wrote her senior thesis on a great radical organizer of poor people, Saul Alinsky of Chicago. Though when she was offered a job by Alinsky, after she wrote about him, and she turned him down--because she didn't think he was effective enough. She said to her boyfriend at that timebe in politics you have to win. And it didn't look to her like Alinsky was winning enough of his battles. She came to question his methodology and concluded in her thesis that larger government programs and funding were needed, not just community action at the grass roots.

She was the commencement speaker at Wellesley in 1969, chosen by her fellow students--there had never been a student commencement speaker there before. The scheduled speaker was Sen. Edward Brooke of Massachusetts, who Hillary had campaigned for, a Republican, the first black to be a member of the U.S. Senate in a hundred years. In his remarks he was patronizing, Hillary thought. He seemed to defend the Nixon administration's conduct of the war, and didn't mention the wrenching events of 68. When he finished, Hillary got up and extemporaneously excoriated him. As a result of that speech, she was featured in Life magazine as exemplary of this new generation of student leaders. They ran a picture of her in pedal pushers and her Coke-bottle glasses. That article made her well known in the student movement in the U.S.

She monitored the Black Panther trial in New Haven. She monitored the trial to see if there were any abuses of the rights of the Panthers on trial, and helped schedule the monitors. Her reports were turned over to the ACLU.

1971 Senator Walter Mondale's subcommittee on migrant workers, researching migrant problems in housing, sanitation, health and education.

Political Campaign Experience

1964 In high school, volunteered for Republican candidate Barry Goldwater.
1968 New Hampshire, Eugene McCarthy primary challenge to LBJ.
1972 Campaigned in the western states for 1972 Democratic presidential candidate George McGovern
1976 Jimmy Carter Presidential race, served as an Indiana campaign coordinator.

The Clinton Campaigns (Bill Clinton has stated Hillary played pivotal roles in his campaigns)

1974 Bill Clinton's Congressional race (L)
1976 Bill Clinton's Attorney General race (W)
1978 Bill Clinton's Governor's Race (W)
1980 Bill Clinton's Governor's Race (L)
1982 Bill Clinton's Governor's Race (W)
1992 Bill Clinton's Presidential Race (W)
1996 Bill Clinton's Presidential Race (W)
2000 Hillary Clinton's Senate Campaign (W)
2006 Hillary Clinton's Senate Campaign (W)

Legal Experience

1969 Truehaft, Walker and Bernstein in Oakland, one of the most liberal law firms in the country. They defended the Panthers.
1970 Yale University - city legal services, provided free legal advice for the poor.
1971 Staff attorney, Children's Defense Fund in Cambridge, Massachusetts
1971 Carnegie Council on Children, legal consultant.
1974 Impeachment Inquiry staff in Washington, D.C., advising the House Committee on the Judiciary during the Watergate scandal.
1974 University of Arkansas, Fayetteville School of Law - One of only two female faculty members.
1976 Rose Law Firm. In 1979, she became the first woman to be made a full partner.
1976 Worked pro bono on child advocacy.
1978 Jimmy Carter appoints Clinton to the board of the Legal Services Corporation.

She was twice named by the National Law Journal as one of the 100 most influential lawyers in America, in 1988 and in 1991.

First Lady of Arkansas

1979 Chaired the Rural Health Advisory Committee
1979 Introduced the Arkansas' Home Instruction Program for Preschool Youth, a program that helps parents work with their children in preschool preparedness and literacy.
1982 - 1992 Chaired the Arkansas Educational Standards Committee

She was named Arkansas Woman of the Year in 1983 and Arkansas Mother of the Year in 1984.

Clinton had co-founded the Arkansas Advocates for Children and Families in 1977.

Served on the boards of the Arkansas Children's Hospital Legal Services (1988-1992)and the Children's Defense Fund (as chair, 1986-1992)

Corporate board of directors of TCBY (1985-1992),Wal-Mart Stores (1986-1992), and Lafarge (1990-1992)

First Lady of the United States of America

"She's very smart ... people rightly give her credit for having been a participant in the Clinton administration and for doing some heavy lifting on issues." Barack Obama, speaking of Hillary Clinton's White House experience and contradicting Obama supporters - The Daily Show with Jon Stewart 8/22/07



When asked about his wife's role in his administration in August of 2000, President Bill Clinton said "She basically had an unprecedented level of activity in her present position over the last eight years.''

1993 First to bring a serious universal healthcare plan to be considered by the US Congress
1997 Helped develop the Adoption and Safe Families Act of 1997

The First Lady led the effor on the Foster Care Independence bill, to help older, unadopted children transition to adulthood. She also hosted numerous White House conferences that related to children's health, including early childhood development (1997) and school violence (1999). She lent her support to programs ranging from "Prescription for Reading," in which pediatricians provided free books for new mothers to read to their infants as their brains were rapidly developing, to nationwide immunization against childhood illnesses. She also supported an annual drive to encourage older women to seek a mammography to prevent breast cancer, coverage of the cost being provided by Medicare.

Hillary Clinton was the only First Lady to keep an office in the West Wing among those of the president's senior staff. While her familiarity with the intricate political issues and decisions faced by the President, she openly discussed his work with him, yet stated that ultimately she was but one of several individuals he consulted before making a decision. They were known to disagree. Regarding his 1993 passage of welfare reform, the First Lady had reservations about federally supported childcare and Medicaid. When issues that she was working on were under discussion at the morning senior staff meetings, the First Lady often attended. Aides kept her informed of all pending legislation and oftentimes sought her reaction to issues as a way of gauging the President's potential response. Weighing in on his Cabinet appointments and knowing many of the individuals he named, she had working relationships with many of them.

She persuaded Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin to convene a meeting of corporate CEOs for their advice on how companies could be persuaded to adopt better child care measures for working families.

With Attorney General Janet Reno, the First Lady helped to create the Department of Justice's Violence Against Women office. One of her closest Cabinet allies was Secretary of State Madeleine Albright. Following her international trips, Hillary Clinton wrote a report of her observations for Albright. A primary effort they shared was globally advocating gender equity in economics, employment, health care and education.

During her trips to Africa (1997), Asia (1995), South America (1995, 1997) and the Central European former Soviet satellite nations (1997, 1998), Hillary Clinton emphasized "a civil society," of human rights as a road to democracy and capitalism.

The First Lady was also one of the few international figures at the time who spoke out against the treatment of Afghani women by Islamist fundamentalist Taliban that had seized control of Afghanistan.

One of the programs she helped create was Vital Voices, a U.S.-sponsored initiative to promote the participation of international women in their nation's political process. One result of the group's meetings, in Northern Ireland, was drawing together women leaders of various political factions that supported the Good Friday peace agreement that brought peace to that nation long at civil war.

Hillary Clinton was also an active supporter of the United States Agency for International Development (USAID), often awarding its micro-loans to small enterprises begun by women in developing nations that aided the economic growth in their impoverished communities. Certainly one of her more important speeches as First Lady addressing the need for equal rights for women was international in scope and created controversy in the nation where it was made: the September 1995 United Nations Fourth World Conference on Women in Beijing, China.

Senator From New York

After the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, Hillary worked with her colleagues to secure the funds New York needed to recover and rebuild. She fought to provide compensation to the families of the victims, grants for hard-hit small businesses, and health care for front line workers at Ground Zero.

She is the first New Yorker ever to serve on the Senate Armed Services Committee.

She has introduced legislation to tie Congressional salary increases to an increase in the minimum wage.

She helped pass legislation that encouraged investment to create jobs in struggling communities through the Renewal Communities program.

She has championed legislation to bring broadband Internet access to rural America.

She worked to strengthen the Children's Health Insurance Program, which increased coverage for children in low income and working families.

She authored legislation that has been enacted to improve quality and lower the cost of prescription drugs and to protect our food supply from bioterrorism.

She sponsored legislation to increase America's commitment to fighting the global HIV/AIDS crisis.

She's working for expanded use of information technology in the health care system to decrease administrative costs, lower premiums, and reduce medical errors.

She's worked to ensure the safety of prescription drugs for children, with legislation now included in the Best Pharmaceuticals for Children Act, and her legislation to help schools address environmental hazards. She has also proposed expanding access to child care.

She has passed legislation that will bring more qualified teachers into classrooms and more outstanding principals to lead our schools.

Hillary is one of the original cosponsors of the Prevention First Act to increase access to family planning. Her fight with the Bush Administration ensured that Plan B, an emergency contraceptive, will be available to millions of American women and will reduce the need for abortions.

She introduced the Count Every Vote Act of 2005 to ensure better protection of votes and to ensure that every vote is counted.

Senate Armed Services Committee

Subcommittees:

* Airland
* Emerging Threats and Capabilities
* Readiness and Management Support

Senate Committee on Environment & Public Works

Subcommittees:

* Subcommittee on Superfund and Environmental Health (Chair)
* Subcommittee Clean Air and Nuclear Safety
* Subcommittee on Transportation and Infrastructure

Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor & Pensions

Subcommittees:

* Children and Families
* Employment & Workplace Safety
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earthlover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 07:56 AM
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40. Did you remember her serving on the Board of Directors of Walmart?
Always willing to help....
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PITBOS Donating Member (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 08:02 AM
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42. Oh yeah. Forgot that one. *
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 08:04 AM
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43. You didn't address a single one of my points.
But thanks for the regurgitation of her resume.
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D23MIURG23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 06:41 PM
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66. What are all these random measures pasted in here
and what do they really mean?

Example:
Clinton Vs. Barack Obama (progressivepunch)
Overall Progressive Score: 92% 90%
Aid to Less Advantaged People at Home and Abroad: 98% 97%
Corporate Subsidies 100% N/A
Education, Humanities and the Arts 88% 100%
Environment 92% 100%
Fair Taxation 97% 100%
Family Planning 88% 80%
Government Checks on Corporate Power 95% 97%
Healthcare 98% 94%
Housing 100% 100%
Human Rights & Civil Liberties 82% 77%
Justice for All: Civil and Criminal 94% 91%
Labor Rights 91% 91%
Making Government Work for Everyone, Not Just the Rich or Powerful 94% 90%
War and Peace 80% 86%
easures to protect New York City's water supplies and clean up Long Island Sound

Can you provide any rational for the random quantities tacked on their names?
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 08:17 AM
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45. I take you at your word
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 09:18 AM
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46. Kick
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 10:21 AM
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53. Well welcome to the side of hope.
Obama is not perfect. Nobody is. However in my view he is the best FIRST STEP towards a better tomorrow.

At this point. I am starting to get more worried about who will take the next steps in 2012. So hopefully we can get past this bullcrap and move on VERY SOON.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 11:20 AM
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58. Agree completely. I'm so sick of the Clintons I hope I never see them again after Tuesday.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 11:40 AM
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59. Thank God junior and pickles are motivated solely to do what's good for
for long-term welfare of this constitutional republic and all if we the people who live here. :D
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Az_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 11:45 AM
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60. I realized they were all about themselves a long time ago...
I no longer have any respect for either clinton and wish they would go the hell away. Their a drag on the Democratic party and becoming a total embarrassment.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 11:50 AM
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61. Alan Greenspan's favorite Republican President
and his wife have pretty much completely alienated me. He's been more or less the "anti-Carter" as ex-Pres.



On the other hand, Obama has done little to inspire me about his positions on important issues.
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IamyourTVandIownyou Donating Member (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 02:40 PM
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62. Time to send em back to Little Rock to sell more "Buddy Plush Dogs"
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IamyourTVandIownyou Donating Member (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 02:46 PM
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63. And get this, "Future Republican" baby outfits. wtf!
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D23MIURG23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 06:34 PM
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65. WTF?!
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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 01:52 PM
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77. :)
:rofl:

Hillary's book "It takes a village" is selling for $11.11, but "Dear Socks Dear Buddy" is selling for $20.00

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


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Oh yeah :evilgrin:

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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 07:03 PM
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67. good thread and absolutely true
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Diane R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 02:10 AM
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70. They've ruined their legacy and permanently damaged their reputations.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 02:14 AM
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71. This campaign has been quite a revelation to many Democrats.
I firmly believe the Clintons will endure the karmic equivalent of exactly what they have coming to them after this. They don't know it yet but respect was their last marketable commodity within the party, and they sacrificed it for their own self-interests. Their demise is self-inflicted and I have no sympathy for them.
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Utopian Leftist Donating Member (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 06:57 AM
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72. The Age of Hillary
I think I finally figured out what Hillary is still doing in this race.

She WANTS Barack to LOSE in November!

Think about it. She is 62 years old. In eight years she will be 70 and, while I don't think that necessarily SHOULD be a factor in whether one runs for President, it obviously IS. Look at all of the jokes about McCain's age: he's 71 right now. You can't tell me that there aren't a LOT of voters out there who will think that is too old to be elected. Everyone old enough to remembers Reagan's senility in his final years in office. And many businesses FORCE employees to retire at age 67.

So Hillary can't afford to wait for eight more years! Her only hope of ever being President is to make Barack lose this year so that she can come back and get the nomination in 2012.
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