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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 03:31 AM
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Poll question: So-called
Edited on Mon Mar-03-08 03:35 AM by readmoreoften
Some African-Americans (Male and Female) openly support Barack Obama because they want to see a Black man in charge.
Some women (both white and women of color) openly support Hillary Clinton because they want to see a woman in charge.

Remember, this has nothing to do with the merit or voting record of the candidate. What we're talking about is the VOTER INTENT. Lets try to forget that the candidates are Obama and Clinton.
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 03:37 AM
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1. It must be past my bedtime.
I've read your OP carefully three times and still have no idea what it is you're asking or trying to say.

Maybe I'll try again in the morning, but I doubt it.

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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 03:40 AM
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2. Really? I don't see how it's difficult.
The question is: do you believe there is such as thing as so-called reverse racism and so-called reverse sexism at the ballot box.
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 03:54 AM
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3. This would posit a rejection of identity politics....
...which I neither reject nor denounce. There are plenty of people that vote based on the most ridiculous criteria. Military record, man, white, "starred in movies with a chimp", barritone voice, would like to have a beer with, want defending me in court and/or congress, is old, is young, is stupid, is smart, has been to other countries, acts like an ignorant hick, is catholic, isn't catholic. People voting for someone because they can identify with them, and based on that identification, suppose an inherent sympathy or like-minded experience. Often they are wrong, sometimes they aren't.

So no, I don't "believe there is such a thing as so-called reverse racism and so-called reverse sexism". In both cases, you are talking about the identification of an otherwise oppressed group with a leader that might in some small way lift them from that "oppressed" category. Racism and prejudice are not the same things. Institutionalized racism and sexism are still a problem in this country.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 04:11 AM
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5. I'd have to agree.
I due suspect, though, that if those 1000 mostly African-American college students from UT Prairie View turned out to be from an Obama rally and holding signs that say "It's Time for A Black President--Don't Deny My Right to Vote!" it would not alter the beautiful sentiment of that march. I think very few people would dare call such an event "racist." I do think, however, if 300 elderly women car-pooled together from their nursing homes with signs that said "I Never Believed I'd Live to See a Woman President", I think it'd be the butt of jokes on DU for at least a day or so.

There is no such thing as reverse racism or reverse sexism. Nor is there homosexism. It is not sexist for women to want a woman president or African-Americans to want to see an African-American president.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 04:05 AM
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4. I voted for the blue one.
Because I like blue.
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Raejeanowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 08:32 AM
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6. None Of The Above
So how do you deal with European Americans or other Americans of color, either gender, who want to see an African American in office, and the males of all races who want to elect a woman? How do you identify THEIR ism?

The intent of any voter is that voter's intent. You can't broad-brush it. Does racism or sexism factor in? Yes. Is race or gender identification sometimes less significant, like icing on the cake? You betcha, but one vote at a time.
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DadOf2LittleAngels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 09:07 AM
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7. Missing Option
There is reverse racism and sexism but a clear majority of both Obama supporters and Hillary supports are backing their candidate on the facts and issues not their race or gender..
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