ARRGGG... How would YOU respond to this question? To be a Democrat:

[Blue_Roses]

I go to open my email this morning and I see this little cutie from my rwing brother-in-law. While I continue to try to keep the peace in this family, this man does everything he can to push my buttons. I'm going to respond to this, but I am so angry right now all I want to say is bullshit and f#$%-off! Now I know that would only prove his case...so I'm taking my time to get an intelligent response together. One that can make HIM think as well as one that relies on truth. This is a very religious man, as it may be already obvious:eyes:


Please help.
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To be a Democrat:


1. You have to be against capital punishment,

but support abortion on demand.



2. You have to believe that businesses create oppression

and governments create prosperity.



3. You have to believe that guns in the hands of law-abiding Americans

are more of a threat than nuclear weapons

in the hands of Chinese and Korean communists.



4. You have to believe that there was no art before Federal funding.



5. You have to believe that global temperatures are more affected

by people driving SUV's, than by documented

cyclical changes in the earth's climate.



6. You have to believe that gender roles are artificial

but being homosexual is natural.



7. You have to believe that the AIDS virus

is spread by a lack of federal funding.



8. You have to believe that the same teacher

who can't teach fourth graders how to read

is qualified to teach those same kids about sex.



9. You have to believe that hunters don't care about nature,

but loony activists who have never been out of the city, do.



10. You have to believe that self-esteem is more important

than actually doing something to earn it.



11. You have to believe that Mel Gibson spent $25 million

of his own money to make 'The Passion of the Christ' for financial gain.



12. You have to believe the NRA is bad

because it supports certain parts of the Constitution,

but the ACLU is good

because it supports certain parts of the Constitution.



13. You have to believe that ATM fees are too high,

but taxes are too low.



14. You have to believe that Margaret Sanger and Gloria Steinem

are more important to American history than

Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Edison, and A.G. Bell.



15. You have to believe that standardized tests are racist,

but racial quotas are not.



16. You have to believe that Hillary Clinton

is normal and a very nice person.



17. You have to believe that the only reason

socialism hasn't worked anywhere it has ever been tried

is because the right people haven't been in charge.



18. You have to believe conservatives telling the truth

belong in jail, but a liar and sex offender belongs in the White House.



19. You have to believe that homosexual parades

are constitutionally protected,

but manger scenes at Christmas are illegal.



20. You have to believe that illegal funding of the Democratic Party

by the Chinese Government is acceptable.



21. You have to believe that it's okay

to give Federal workers Christmas Day off,

but it's offensive to say 'Merry Christmas'.



Ready to vote???

:banghead:

[islandmkl]

1. sorry I am at work...at home I have the perfect 'same format' response...

if I can get it later, I'll post it

[Blue_Roses]

3. seriously....

thank-you...:hug:

I can't believe this man spreads this shit.

[asjr]

2. One becomes a Democrat when one

realizes Republicans are stupid.

[Blue_Roses]

4. yep...

and believe me, that and many more things come to mind.

[yourguide]

5. I would respond:

hitting reply ALL:

#1. and to be a bigot, sexist, and homophobe you just need to send out emails like this.

[Hav]

6. .

As expected, many of these points, in an attempt to be clever, simplify the subjects they deal with. In the end, it's just dumb.
Anyway, these same kind of lists exist for Repubs:


20 things you have to believe to be a Republican today

1. Being a drug addict is a moral failing and a crime, unless you're a conservative radio host. Then it's an illness and you need our prayers for your recovery.

2. The United States should get out of the United Nations, and our highest national priority is enforcing U.N. resolutions against Iraq.

3. Government should relax regulation of Big Business and Big Money but crack down on individuals who use marijuana to relieve the pain of illness.

4. "Standing Tall for America" means firing your workers and moving their jobs to India.

5. A woman can't be trusted with decisions about her own body, but multinational corporations can make decisions affecting all humankind without regulation.

6. Jesus loves you, and shares your hatred of homosexuals and Hillary Clinton.

7. The best way to improve military morale is to praise the troops in speeches while slashing veterans' benefits and combat pay.

8. Group sex and drug use are degenerate sins unless you someday run for governor of California as a Republican.

9. If condoms are kept out of schools, adolescents won't have sex.

10. A good way to fight terrorism is to belittle our longtime allies, then demand their cooperation and money.

11. HMOs and insurance companies have the interest of the public at heart.

12. Providing health care to all Iraqis is sound policy. Providing health care to all Americans is socialism.

13. Global warming and tobacco's link to cancer are junk science, but creationism should be taught in schools.

14. Saddam was a good guy when Reagan armed him, a bad guy when Bush's daddy made war on him, a good guy when Cheney did business with him and a bad guy when Bush needed a "we can't find Bin Laden" diversion.

15. A president lying about an extramarital affair is an impeachable offense. A president lying to enlist support for a war in which thousands die is a solid defense policy.

16. Government should limit itself to the powers named in the Constitution, which include banning gay marriages and censoring the Internet.

17. The public has a right to know about Hillary's cattle trades, but George Bush's driving record is none of our business.

18. You support states' rights, which means Attorney General John Ashcroft can tell states what local voter initiatives they have a right to adopt.

19. What Bill Clinton did in the 1960s is of vital national interest, but what Bush did in the 1980s is irrelevant.

20. Trade with Cuba is wrong because the country is communist; but trade with China and Vietnam is vital to a spirit of international harmony.

[stellanoir]

7. For someone to send this vacuous e-mail riddled with the same tired

and fallacious idiotic wedge issue distortions they must really be clinging to the very same deceit that enabled the Neocons to trash our Constitution, loot and waste our treasury, and sully our global reputation.

If this is the best they can put out it's pretty damn pathetic.

[Not the Only One]

8. Don't waste your time

Just ignore things like that.

[DemGa]

9. Just hit Delete...this stuff is a waste of time.......NT

[peoli]

10. with a middle finger and a click of the delete button

[mcctatas]

11. Reply:

"Hey, how did you get ahold of our party platform before the convention?" ;)

[BOSSHOG]

12. My likeminded BIL used to send me such nonsense

like a young child throwing a fit to get attention. I simply delete and don't respond at all. I think that pisses him off worse then anything I might send to him. The emails from him are drying up.

[Blue_Roses]

13. I get stuff from him all the time.

He works in the church and I guess they have some kind of chain mail going on. I think since I'm nice he feels it safe to send it to me. :eyes:

[DU9598]

14. replies

1. You have to be against capital punishment, but support abortion on demand.

Democrats believe in limited government, not a government who kills people or imposes it's religious beliefs on citizens.


2. You have to believe that businesses create oppression and governments create prosperity.

Certainly not. Only a naive person believes that governments and businesses cannot work together. However, naive people trust businesses to do good for all of society rather than make their CEO's and investors rich. Oversight of both businesses and government are good - more reason to vote Democrat.


3. You have to believe that guns in the hands of law-abiding Americans are more of a threat than nuclear weapons
in the hands of Chinese and Korean communists.

This does not even make sense. Huh? Delusion alert!


4. You have to believe that there was no art before Federal funding.

Certainly there was, but most of it was funded by government or the churches.


5. You have to believe that global temperatures are more affected by people driving SUV's, than by documented cyclical changes in the earth's climate.

Guilty ... that is what I believe since that is what scientists agree - unless they are scientists employed by oil companies ... See #2 above.



6. You have to believe that gender roles are artificial but being homosexual is natural.

Guilty. See science.


7. You have to believe that the AIDS virus is spread by a lack of federal funding.

No, but lack of federal funding of education programs and contraception certainly does lead to higher rates of infection.


8. You have to believe that the same teacher who can't teach fourth graders how to read is qualified to teach those same kids about sex.

I believe most teachers, if properly funded, can teach 4th graders to read. I also believe that society has a role in openly addressing sex education or else we have more teen pregnancy and hence more abortions.


9. You have to believe that hunters don't care about nature, but loony activists who have never been out of the city, do.

No, we don't believe that at all. Many Democrats are hunters and conservationists.



10. You have to believe that self-esteem is more important than actually doing something to earn it.

Huh? How is this a Democratic belief. Self-esteem is important, but so is self-enrichment. I don't understand how this is political.



11. You have to believe that Mel Gibson spent $25 million of his own money to make 'The Passion of the Christ' for financial gain.

Huh? Where did this come from and why is this political.



12. You have to believe the NRA is bad because it supports certain parts of the Constitution, but the ACLU is good
because it supports certain parts of the Constitution.

No, both are worthy organizations in their roles of upholding the constitution. The NRA is bad when it lies about candidates records on gun issues to push a right wing, anti-government agenda that has nothing to do with gun rights.


13. You have to believe that ATM fees are too high, but taxes are too low.

Huh? Where did this come from. Democrats want fair taxes to pay for essential functions of government. ATM fees? You mean where banks charge you for retrieving your money electronically, rather than paying the wages of a live person to give you your money?


14. You have to believe that Margaret Sanger and Gloria Steinem are more important to American history than Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Edison, and A.G. Bell.

That is just stupid.


15. You have to believe that standardized tests are racist, but racial quotas are not.

Teaching a test is not racist, but it is a waste and leads to poor critical thinking skills. Racial quotas correct past injustice. We can end racial quotas when we end heritage admission and scholarship. No GWB at Yale.


16. You have to believe that Hillary Clinton is normal and a very nice person.

Guilty. As opposed to GWB who personally talks to God and who has led us to a war on lies resulting in the deaths of over 100,000 Iraqis ... yeah, she is normal and very nice.



17. You have to believe that the only reason socialism hasn't worked anywhere it has ever been tried is because the right people haven't been in charge.

No, who said raw socialism is good. Government has it's role ... just ask Herbert Hoover.



18. You have to believe conservatives telling the truth belong in jail, but a liar and sex offender belongs in the White House.

What conservatives have told the truth? What sex offender has been in the white house?


19. You have to believe that homosexual parades are constitutionally protected, but manger scenes at Christmas are illegal.

Parades are unconstitutional? Who knew? Manger scenes not supported by governemtn are illegal? Who knew? I would love to see a state sponsored gay pride parade on the lawn of city hall. That would be cool.


20. You have to believe that illegal funding of the Democratic Party by the Chinese Government is acceptable.

As opposed to Saudi funding of the Republican party? As opposed to the Abramoff funding?


21. You have to believe that it's okay to give Federal workers Christmas Day off, but it's offensive to say 'Merry Christmas'.

I have yet to find any Democrat who is offended by wishing someone 'Merry Christmas'. I am offended by people who equate their political party with the sole believer in a religion.

[Blue_Roses]

15. didn't you feel

that with each response, it got more and more ridiculous? This guy actually believes this stuff:wtf:

[democrat_patriot]

16. How's this:

To be a Democrat:


1. You have to be against capital punishment, but support abortion on demand.

We don't believe killing a human is morally acceptable - a Woman's right to remove a mass of cells from her Uterus is. Especially because of rape or incest.



2. You have to believe that businesses create oppression and governments create prosperity.

If businesses helped their employees we wouldn't need government assistance. We don't believe governments create prosperity, but they should help their citizens when they are in trouble.



3. You have to believe that guns in the hands of law-abiding Americans are more of a threat than nuclear weapons in the hands of Chinese and Korean communists.

Guns killing Americans = 100,000+ Americans dead from Korean or Chines Nukes = 0


4. You have to believe that there was no art before Federal funding.
Huh? We believe there was art from 10,000 BC - which religious Republicans believe wasn't created yet.


5. You have to believe that global temperatures are more affected by people driving SUV's, than by documented
cyclical changes in the earth's climate.

No - you have to believe climate change is affected by SUV's (and oil consumption). Why are Republicans afraid to help the Earth through conservation and better fuel economy?


6. You have to believe that gender roles are artificial but being homosexual is natural.
Name 1 democrat who state gender roles are artificial - just one. Homosexuality does occur in nature - making it natural.


7. You have to believe that the AIDS virus is spread by a lack of federal funding.

No - it is spread by the misinformed, who became that way because the government refuses to educate people.


8. You have to believe that the same teacher who can't teach fourth graders how to read is qualified to teach those same kids about sex.
Yes - if you feel the teacher in charge of your child can't teach them to read - why are they still teaching your child? We also believe parents should teach their children about sex. Rather than hiding it from them like it's dirty.


9. You have to believe that hunters don't care about nature, but loony activists who have never been out of the city, do.
Nope - hunters care about nature, they also like to litter. And any person who wishes to preserve our SHARED environment is not 'loony' but mature and responsible. Only wishing that our children have an environment to enjoy.


10. You have to believe that self-esteem is more important than actually doing something to earn it.
You have that back wards - Republicans base self-esteem on what they own (SUV's, big guns,wives etc) versus how they have helped each other. Democrats care about the poor, the earth and others - sort of like Jesus.


11. You have to believe that Mel Gibson spent $25 million of his own money to make 'The Passion of the Christ' for financial gain.
I have never met a Democrat who cares where Mel got his funding. Ever. Why do you care?


12. You have to believe the NRA is bad because it supports certain parts of the Constitution, but the ACLU is good
because it supports certain parts of the Constitution.
The NRA is bad because they believe we all need an automatic weapon to hunt - either animals or each other. The ACLU defends the very constitution the NRA hides behind. The ACLU also defends Rush Limbaugh, the RNC and Ann Coulter.


13. You have to believe that ATM fees are too high,but taxes are too low.
ATM fees are too high. Taxes are too low - ON THE RICH.


14. You have to believe that Margaret Sanger and Gloria Steinem are more important to American history than
Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Edison, and A.G. Bell.
Ummmm - what?


15. You have to believe that standardized tests are racist, but racial quotas are not.
Standardized tests that only represent one viewpoint are racist. If a racial quota helps a man get a job - over someone less qualified, that is a good thing.


16. You have to believe that Hillary Clinton is normal and a very nice person.
Never met her, neither have you. Republicans have to hate people they have never met - because they sound 'shrill', Rush/Sean told them too or they are a Democrat. If a Republican could ever give me a reason (other than "I just don't like her") why they hate Hillary Clinton - I'd hear them out. Still waiting.


17. You have to believe that the only reason socialism hasn't worked anywhere it has ever been tried is because the right people haven't been in charge.
Name 1 Democrat who promotes Socialism? Better than supporting Fascism like those on the right (think Mussolini and Hitler).


18. You have to believe conservatives telling the truth belong in jail, but a liar and sex offender belongs in the White House.
Who in the White House was a sex offender? Clinton? He did lie, didn't commit a sex crime though. What conservatives telling the truth belong in jail?


19. You have to believe that homosexual parades are constitutionally protected, but manger scenes at Christmas are illegal.
Parades are forms of free speech. What manger scene is considered illegal? People can get arrested for putting up a manger scene? I do know that cities have voted not to put manger scenes in public places - unless equal space is given to other religions. What's wrong with that?


20. You have to believe that illegal funding of the Democratic Party by the Chinese Government is acceptable.
I do not support illegal funding of either party whether Chinese, Saudi Arabian or Hawaiian.


21. You have to believe that it's okay to give Federal workers Christmas Day off, but it's offensive to say 'Merry Christmas'.
Nope - don't find it offensive. But don't believe people should be forced to say it, or hear it. You want to run around yelling Merry Christmas - go ahead. But believing in the sanctity of business and the market as Republican claim to, let businesses choose for themselves. Since a majority of their customers may not celebrate Christmas. Kind of how Republicans would feel if Wal-Mart employees greeted them with "Praise Alla" - well maybe not.

[Trajan]

17. A pack of lies ...

and a waste of time ...

My brothers do NOT send crap emails like this ... They know I would just trash them ....

We simply dont talk politics, so we can continue being loving brothers ....