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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 09:54 AM
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Seven More Weeks? Hillary Opens Offices in WY, MT and Puerto Rico
Edited on Mon Mar-03-08 09:58 AM by K Gardner
Anyone think Hillary is really going to go quietly into that good night?

Wyoming Caucus, April 8/Montana Primary June 3

Hillary Hires Staff in MT, WY and PR

Clinton & Obama target WYO & MONT
On Montana's 4&20 Blackbirds, jhwygirl talks about the Obama-Clinton race, particularly how the battle is shaping up in her state of Montana and her former state of Wyoming. Here's an excerpt:


As LiTW reports today, Hillary is now hiring staff in Montana, Wyoming, and even Puerto Rico. Singer says that he thinks that the staff is going to be up and running only for the primaries -- in other words, they’ll pull out or be redirected for the general. He’s probably right….and isn’t that ironic? Even though it has been shown that Dean’s 50-state strategy is really the way to go (flashback 2006), neither candidate will give it the respect it deserves -- until it’s in the rearview mirror. And even then -- only as much respect as they absolutely have to give it. (”Oops!”)


I hadn't heard about Hillary hiring Wyoming staff. But we do know that Barack Obama is opening offices in Cheyenne and Laramie (reported Tuesday). To back up the claim that the Democratic candidates are only interested in capturing delegates in the primaries, I heard through the grapevine that the Obama people have only leased their Cheyenne office for four months, which would take them through the Democratic state convention on Memorial Day weekend. Still, a short-term presence is at least some presence. It may encourage turnout at the county conventions, and raise Sen. Obama's profile in Wyoming. As for Ms. Clinton, her profile is pretty low among Wyomingites, even Dems. A few staffers roaming the state won't be enough to repair damage done a long time ago -- in the 1990s.


Mississiippi Primary, April 11 - Obama heavily favored. Hillary would have to overcome the insult she gave to MI earlier in the year:

Hillary Insults Mississippi


WASHINGTON — Maybe it will be a 49-state campaign instead of the Democrats' much-heralded 50-state strategy if New York Sen. Hillary Clinton is the party's presidential nominee next year.

That's because of the insult the Democratic front-runner tossed Mississippi's way last week in an interview with Iowa's most important political reporter, the Des Moines Register's David Yepsen.

Expressing "shock" that Iowa and Mississippi are the only states that have never elected a woman governor or sent a woman to Congress, Clinton added, "How can Iowa be ranked with Mississippi? That's not the quality. That's not the communitarianism, that's not the openness I see in Iowa."

Mississippi's senior senator, Trent Lott, was not amused when word of Clinton's comments reached him. He demanded and, according to him, got an apology from Clinton.

"Having lived in Arkansas, which is something of a whipping boy, too, she knows better than that," Lott said of Clinton's slight of Mississippi.


Pennsylvania Primary, April 22 (Guam also has their Caucus on this day)

Obama, Clinton open campaign headquarters in Philadelphia
The Associated Press

PHILADELPHIA - Democratic presidential hopefuls Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama opened campaign headquarters in Philadelphia this weekend.

The Pennsylvania primary on April 22 is still seven weeks away. But it could be a key contest if Clinton does well in Texas and Ohio on Tuesday.

According to The Associated Press, Clinton trails Obama by 109 delegates. About 1,300 delegates are yet to be chosen.

Obama's office, in the heart of downtown Philadelphia, opened Saturday. Clinton's office, near the Delaware River, opens Sunday.

Spokesmen for both campaigns said they hoped to enlist the support of more than 1,000 people this weekend.


So, Obama will take Wyoming and Mississippi, and has already closed to within 6 pts in Pennsylvania, but do we face Seven More Weeks of This?

But the rhetoric is heating up on the trail. "You know, for some people, this election is about how you feel. It's about speeches," Clinton said yesterday in Ohio. "Well, that's not what it's about for me. It's about solutions." Obama shot back at Clinton's experience argument, noting that Clinton has said she did not read the entire national intelligence estimate on Iraq before voting to support the war. "I don't know what all that experience got her, because I have the experience to know that . . . if the chairman of the Senate intelligence committee says, 'You should read this, this is why I voted against the war,' then you should probably read it."

Even if Clinton does well enough to argue for hanging on through Pennsylvania on April 22nd, she may face more pressure to reconsider doing so. Seven more weeks of increased back-and-forth could sap the momentum of even this energized Democratic race.


Can or should the Democratic Party survive seven more weeks of this.. or even longer? At this point, it is obvious her only path to the nomination is to utterly destroy Obama. Will she be allowed to continue on this road? It seems the MSM is already gearing up to allow her to do so.


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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 09:58 AM
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1. Suddenly HRC Campaing notices there is SOMETHING between the Coasts?
Hiring in Montana? Ouch. That decision must have hurt Penn.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 09:59 AM
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2. My way of thinking is, the race will go on after tomorrow--she'll win
either both TX and OH, or one of those, and then we get the big comeback story--I think the Clinton campaign is hoping that the Rezko trial will be in the news enough to damage him for upcoming contests, which is why she won't concede no matter what. It's like Romney wishing he had stayed in when McCain's lobby-sex story broke. They're not done trashing Obama just yet.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 10:01 AM
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7. I'm afraid, after the blanket Hillary coverage I've seen since 6 a.m. this morning..
I'd have to agree with you as much as it pains me to do so. I hope we're wrong.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 10:03 AM
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13. They are going to do everything they can to pump her up. The media
is desperate for the big showdown to continue, and so is the GOP. They want her to look like she has momentum, even though it's Obama who has closed double-digit gaps--no matter what, she's the winner, even when she loses. He's the guy with ground to make up, and something to prove, no matter how well he does.
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 10:22 AM
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29. Dear Lord. Please, not another 7 weeks.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 10:01 AM
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8. I'm afraid, after the blanket Hillary coverage I've seen since 6 a.m. this morning..
I'd have to agree with you as much as it pains me to do so. I hope we're wrong.
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 10:09 AM
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18. If Obama is seriously wounded by corruption charges, the super delegates
should do their job and coalesce around a compromise candidate, not just go with the runner-up, especially since both our leading candidates have had more Democrats vote against them than for them. Gore might not accept the nomination; but certainly there are a number of people out there who have sufficient gravitas to step into the breach.

If we go into the general election with a wounded candidate, McCain will win.

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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 10:12 AM
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19. He's already been investigated, nothing found--McCain is not
going to be able to do much with it anyway, he's got all sorts of corruption problems.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 10:17 AM
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22. I'm not worried about damage from Rezko.. its the Hillary Damage I think we have to worry about. I
agree with your last sentence.
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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 10:29 AM
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35. What makes you think she can win either Texas or Ohio?
Or are you just playing the diminished expectations game? After Obama's impressive string of victories, why don't you think he can continue and win in those two states too?
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 10:35 AM
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43. I always play the lowered expectations game--after NH and CA, I simply
brace for the worst, and peek through my fingers at the polls and the election returns until he either wins or loses. And whenever he wins, I annoy my husband and kids by running around the house and pumping my fist and screaming "Fired UP!! READY TO GO!!!" True story. If you want an optimistic outlook, you will have to look elsewhere. I've got my fragile psyche to protect.
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 10:32 AM
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38. No, after tomorrow, Clinton is out of money,.
And will be either 1) forced to loan herself more than she can afford to keep it running on fumes and hatred, and 2) She'll "suspend" the campaign for good.

Hawkeye-X
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 10:38 AM
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46. I don't know, I have the feeling that unless Obama sweeps tomorrow,
because that's the new higher bar that's been set for him, she'll be the comeback kid and the media will start laying it on THICK to keep the money train rolling along for her.
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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 09:59 AM
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3. This was expected.
They'll be closed just as quickly if she loses Texas and Ohio tommorow.
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 10:24 AM
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32. Sounds good to me.
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 10:00 AM
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4. she has a job to do, destroying the democratic party.
cant do that if conceded.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 10:00 AM
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5. Good lord. n/t
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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 10:01 AM
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6. Her internals must look better than she thought is my guess.
Tomorrow will really rell if they stay open or not I am thinking.
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 10:01 AM
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9. She can have her offices.
The supers will finish this.

Clinton supporters (Hopefully not Clinton herself) Have moved toward swiftboating tactics and it is disgusting. I hope the supers will say enough is enough and finish this.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 10:03 AM
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11. I pray you're right, Zach.
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 10:28 AM
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34. Me too.
Yet think about it! This is from the same deal that purchases election items on the donations for FAR too much in my view. Clinton may just be trying to use up what is left of her funds to just fiddle fart around after tuesday.

Remember that unless SOMEHOW she pulls 50-100 delegates net gain tuesday. Then the supers will likely finish this.

You see the democratic party does not let rumored scandals define how long a losing candidate gets to have their full support. 7 more weeks will likely mean a republican president in the fall because if its 7 more weeks it will likely mean it will go all the way to the convention. The supers know this and will support whoever is leading by around 50 within a few days.
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Lisa0825 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 10:02 AM
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10. !
:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 10:04 AM
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14. Here Lisa..
Take two and write the DNC !!

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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 10:43 AM
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47. I need about six of those! n/t
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 10:03 AM
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12. She's a fighter all right. Even if it destroys the Democratic Party she won't quit.
However I would tend to believe that unless she wins both Texas and Ohio, there will be an intervention by Superdelegates. As Richardson said, the candidate with the most delegates should be the nominee. If others are thinking the same, they'll go to Obama and effectively end Hillary's campaign.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 10:06 AM
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15. Do you think Richardson's comment yesterday was more than just an
opinion of his? Do you think this was a message delivered, a shot across the bow so to speak, from the party elders as a whole to the Clinton campaign?
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 10:12 AM
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20. Yes I do.
Richardson is not a man to speak out unless it's important; he carries a lot of weight within the party.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 10:18 AM
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23. Yeah, that's what I thought, too. Makes me feel a little better :-)
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 10:23 AM
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31. Me too ; so does this: "Clinton campaign backing off pressuring Superdelegates"
Edited on Mon Mar-03-08 10:26 AM by sparosnare
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 10:06 AM
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16. Ye cats.
Urgh.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 10:07 AM
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17. Wyoming is on Saturday
So it makes sense that she might open an office there.
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 10:16 AM
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21. 1. The media would love for this to continue. 2. I am pretty confident Hillary
will do the Huckabee no matter what happens tomorrow. She is a fighter, and I think she would gladly destroy our general election chances in her fight.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 10:18 AM
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24. You forgot to include this campaign office
LiTW reports today, Hillary is now hiring staff in
The State of Denial as defense mechanism. The positions
have already been filled by these two supporters.


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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 10:20 AM
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27. LMAO !!! Thanks for the laugh :-)
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 10:20 AM
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25. Hey, just like Senator Feinstein said yesterday, " HRC will not
drop out of this campaign"...oh you obamabots it do seem you have got a winner in obama, uh huh for the time being, March 3rd but March 5th you going down.....
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 10:21 AM
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28. Do you see the cordial tone of this thread? A discussion actually being held.. until you
step in and start calling names and throwing out insults. Just stop.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 10:35 AM
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42. Diane is right. I heard he say that yesterday.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 10:20 AM
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26. GOMAMA! Especially in light of Obama's LIE to the American voters about NAFTA
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 10:22 AM
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30. And here come the nasty brigades.
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 10:31 AM
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37. It is too late for your swiftboat tactics.
And be aware that that bullshit is archived. You can kiss Clinton's Chances in 2012 goodbye once all this bullshit gets dug up again.

Take your bullshit elseware.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 10:36 AM
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44. Be aware that Hillary is on the move:-)
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 10:26 AM
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33. She'll never quit
she'll destroy the Democratic Party and her own place in the Senate but she won't quit. x(
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RememberWellstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 10:31 AM
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36. In it to win it!
Go Hill go!
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caseycoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 10:33 AM
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39. OOOOHHH NOOOOO!
Seven more weeks?

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4themind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 10:33 AM
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40. Call me cynical but...
Her actions AFTER march 4th will speak louder to me than her actions before it (when there are relatively imminent primaries to win, and chances to shape public perception) we'll see...
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 10:34 AM
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41. YOU go Hillary---
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 10:37 AM
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45. If onlyit were just 7 weeks, but the convention isn't until August 25! nt
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pdxmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 10:45 AM
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48. And while the two candidates are going toe to toe, trading blows,
McCain is sitting back at his ranch in Arizona, hosting cookouts for members of the media.

Not good.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 11:11 AM
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49. That's exactly the point, indeed ! Hillary is essentially acting as his surrogate :-)
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 12:19 PM
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50. Mississippi's primary is on March 11th, not April 11th. That's next Tuesday.
Obama has 5 offices open in Wyoming whereas Hillary chose not to open an office.
That blog news about Wyoming is out of date.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 07:55 PM
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51. Yeah, sorry about the typo. Too late to edit. Thanks for the update !
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 08:00 PM
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52. Call it the Kerry effect.
Once Kerry got the nom, he was was fighting everybody -- the media, the GOP, the Clintons, and their stooges. Ditto Obama. I think he'll pull through but it's going to be expensive and he'll get beat up pretty bad.

Clintons = ringers. :mad:
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HooptieWagon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 08:16 PM
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53. well, she says it's about solutions...
so brace yourself for 7 more weeks of Nurse Ratchett applied enemas...
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