Kablooie
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Mon Mar-03-08 11:28 AM
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The more I hear about the campaign, the more dissatisfied I am with Hillary. |
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I preferred Obama at the beginning but I felt that if Hillary won that would be fine. But the more pressure there is on her, the more "Republican" she seems to become.
In writing drama you are advised to put as much pressure on your characters as you can. Only under extremely stressful situations can you see who someone truly is. Pressure reveals character.
Well, this seems to be the case with Hillary and I don't like what I'm seeing. If she becomes this reactive during the primary, what will happen when she's in charge of a serious global crisis?
I've come to feel that Hillary is not the right person for the job. She's shown too much manipulative dishonesty, in my opinion, which is exactly the thing I want to change in government.
If she wins, I feel there may be a big backlash and it won't be good for the country.
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Mon Mar-03-08 11:37 AM
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1. She was well into her adulthood before she decided to be democrat |
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Against her espousing to be a model republican during the civil rights movement.
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Mon Mar-03-08 10:19 PM
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Mon Mar-03-08 10:38 PM
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16. Yeah. At age 19. Age to vote in 1966: 21. |
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Is that "Well into her adulthood" or "Well, into her adulthood" -- ?
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Mon Mar-03-08 11:39 AM
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2. She is horrible choice for the general election. |
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Nothing can motivate the depressed, demoralized Republicans and many independents to get out and vote against the Democrats ... except for Hillary.
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Mon Mar-03-08 11:44 AM
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3. You know, I feel the same about BO. He just can't convince |
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me that he knows enough about Foreign affairs,health care,the economy and the middle class. I hope I am wrong if he wins, and if he doesn't I too think there will be a break in the Democrat Party and the country.
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Mon Mar-03-08 11:55 AM
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5. He knows alot, how much is enough. |
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Mon Mar-03-08 09:39 PM
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6. I'm not sure that Hillary really has all the experience she claims. |
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She was there with Bill but observing and doing are very different things. Her actual first hand experience doesn't seem that impressive to me.
I agree that Obama may make some mistakes and will have a lot of learning to do but I'll bet just about every president has gone through that. I'm sure there are surprises for every person once they became president.
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Mon Mar-03-08 11:54 AM
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Edited on Mon Mar-03-08 11:56 AM by backscatter712
It showed in her IWR vote, it showed in her vote for Kyl-Lieberman, and it shows in the way she conducts her campaign.
When the pressure is on, and she risks losing face or getting pushback, she buckles.
She won't stick to her guns. She won't show political courage. She'll be just like Nancy Pelosi.
It's yet one more thing I like about Obama that I realized when I read The Audacity of Hope - he recognizes the fear that pervades politics - he knows about the fear of public humiliation, the fear of losing face. And Obama, unlike Clinton, knows how to push past that fear and do what needs to be done. Clinton hasn't learned that lesson yet, and until she does, she is not ready to be President.
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Mon Mar-03-08 10:08 PM
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7. She is not a coward, congress is not weak and bush isnt dumb... |
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well ok he is dumb but they all are a part of the elites agenda and if we continue to repeat what the media says about being weak, we are only fooling ourselves and other people that read our comments. A weak congress doesn't allow the constitution to be picked apart, a president to break the law with no recourse and so on,a corrupt one does. They are all in bed together and when the American people realize this, it will most likely be too late. They are going to run us all into poverty so they can enslave us to run their Amerika while we have no rights and they enjoy the world with their other corrupt friends. History has pointed at this and its been going on for a long time. I think their agenda became more planned out back in the 50's when the bilderberg meetings started taking place. Now that we are about to all be run into poverty, its probably too late, we will see.
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Mon Mar-03-08 10:18 PM
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And spot on. It is worse than most people can grasp.
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Mon Mar-03-08 10:27 PM
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13. hilary voted for the IWR to look tough when she |
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ran for prez..nevermind that people would die because she's a chickenshithawk.
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Mon Mar-03-08 10:40 PM
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17. "hilary" -- ? It's Freeper spelling! |
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I think the term of art over there is "Hitlery KKKlint00n".
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Tue Mar-04-08 03:28 PM
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18. I disagree! She voted for the war for oil because like bush and... |
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the rest of the elite, she shares their agenda. Calling her or congress weak like the media does is only a cop out and excuse for their corruption that is allowing the constitution to be shit on. We will eventually be enslaved into poverty if things continue down the same path.
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Mon Mar-03-08 10:34 PM
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well, SHE actually voted for NAFTA and she dismissed criticism of her vote as if labor, envrionmentalists and other activist were just out of touch. She never apologized...
okay, she is like Pelosi.
Tex
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Mon Mar-03-08 10:14 PM
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8. I feel exactly the same way. |
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I thought she was a nice person and a good Democrat. I only chose Obama on the finer points of some issues that are near and dear to me. It wasn't an emotional rejection of Hillary, but more of an intellectual decision. There were a few issues that were deal makers/breakers for me and I decided on that basis.
The things she's said and done lately have my head spinning. I'd like to believe it's all about having bad advisors but Hillary Clinton is an adult and can certainly draw the line where she wants to. The only thing I can conclude is that Hillary Clinton will not draw the line at all when it comes between her and something she wants. That's not a good quality in a President. It's not a good quality in a Democrat either.
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Mon Mar-03-08 10:17 PM
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9. I don't trust Hillary not to react in a debate in a way that will cause people to dislike her more |
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Edited on Mon Mar-03-08 10:18 PM by rosebud57
than many already do.
Remember the incessant sighing of Gore. What did he think that would achieve? Or was he not thinking about the way he was miced?
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Mon Mar-03-08 10:24 PM
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12. Very Good..I like your analysis...the |
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pressure is too much for her and this is nothing compared to POTUS.
I really want know what she thinks will happen if she doesn't get the nom? She's getting further and further into self degradation.
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Mon Mar-03-08 10:36 PM
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better than I could put it.
If she wins, she's damaged goods, if she loses, she might take the Dems down with her.
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