Hillary is the Beach Boys... Barack is the Beatles.... it's 1964.

[scheming daemons]

--credit to Bob Schrum for a very good analogy.

[Vinca]

1. Actually, Hillary is the Kingston Trio. nt

[Taverner]

2. Does that mean Hillary will have a meltdown, scrap her entire campaign, retreat to her home

Never leave her bed for years to come until John Belushi and Dan Ackroyd take her surfing?

10 points to anyone who gets the final reference

But I hope this doesn't happen.

I may be an Obama supporter, but the Clintons are a party treasure. If you don't think they did anything for the USA, then you didn't read the news in the 90's. I just think Obama has a better chance of winning, and if he wins, he will make a better leader.

[BigDaddy44]

3. A party treasure?

They were good for the Clintons alone. They came in to the White House with Democrats holding the House, the Senate, Governorships, etc. By the time they left, Republicans had taken the lead in all 3. The Clintons are anything but a party treasure. Its about THEM, not about the party. They are more like pirates who steal the treasure and keep it for themselves.

[Taverner]

8. I had stocks in the 90's, the Clintons were very good for publically held businesses

And in turn, very good for the worker in the high tech sector.

I watched East Palo Alto change from the scariest part of the bay area save Richmond to a middle class bastion. This was all Clinton. He invested government funds in R&D, making Venture Capitalists more willing to invest in startups.

Bush is not. He is only good for his cronies.

And if you think politicians think of anything but their own egos, I have this bridge to sell you...

[BigDaddy44]

12. You said a PARTY treasure

Not a corporate treasure. Yes, they were a corporate treasure. They were most certainly not a party treasure.

Good politicians seek to elevate their party, not just themselves. Kind of like Michael Jordan. He was great because he made his whole team better, and didn't just pad his own stats. And his teams won. The Clintons are the Barry Bonds of politics (choke in the playoffs, no world series titles).

[Taverner]

13. Guess what, the Democratic Party is about business too

They made sure there was a monetary link from business to middle class. Bush severed that link. Anyone who can bring about a tide rise all ships is a party treasure. Granted the Clintons are Conservative in the classical sense. But that is not automatically bad IMO. Eisenhower was Conservative in the classical sense, and he was a good president.

Being the Keynesian that I am, though, classical conservative policy is not what we need right now. We need some good old fashioned tax and spend. That's how you get out of a recession. You tax (since our coffers are bare) and spend on works. I suggest huge R&D dollars spent in the alternative energy and stem cell research.

The Democratic Party is a party about the marketplace of ideas, not a single-minded bridge to the past like the GOP is. Sometimes those ideas can benefit business.

[MyNameGoesHere]

4. So it is the American idol nomination. I knew it. N/T

[catnhatnh]

5. While my hyperbole gently weeps.......N/T

[corkhead]

6. Pet sounds was a really great album,

but for that one great album, there were 10 great Beatle albums.

That album came out long after they had been passed by, and it was too little, too late. It would have never been made had Brian Wilson not felt the competitive pressure to make a "beatlesque" album after the way had been paved.

[JVS]

7. Why was it in mono instead of stereo though

[Dogmudgeon]

10. Brian Wilson is deaf in one ear.

His father was rather free with his fists.

--p!

[Brotherjohn]

16. I have the CD, with both versions. Sometimes, I like the Mono better. nt

[JVS]

17. but isn't the stereo version a modern re-mastering and not original?

[Brotherjohn]

23. I guess so. There's a stereo original? In any case, meant I like the mono...

... version on the CD better than the stereo version on the CD (sometimes).

[JVS]

28. IIRC the original was released in mono

[Dogmudgeon]

9. So Barack is 4 self-involved platitude-spouting sex idols?

Whodathunkit?

--p!

[Bucky]

11. It's 1957: Clinton is Dean Martin, Obama is Jerry Lewis...

McCain is Spike Jones

[NashVegas]

14. Beach Boys Got Over Their Ego Problems Enough To Stick It Out

Want to try another analogy?

[AtomicKitten]

15. Roll over Beethoven!!!

http://www.popartuk.com/g/l/lgcvf001+the-beatles-in-london-black-and-white-photo-the-beatles-canvas-canvas.jpg

[high density]

18. Hillary is Pat Boone

1950s crap that hasn't noticed yet that it's the 1960s.

[mythyc]

19. I kind of see Hillary as the Starland Vocal Band

Anybody remember them, lol. They showed up once in Homer Simpson's record collection, in the johnny cash space coyote insanity peppers episode when he's lamenting how little he and Marge have in common.

Yes Hillary's definitely more the Starland Vocal Band

[Perky]

21. Skyrockets in flight...afrenoon delight?

ewwwww my mind's eye.....the pain the pain

[mythyc]

31. that's the one, lol. n/t

[NewHampster]

20. I was thinking that Barack is the Monkeys

A media made group specifically targeted at one small demographic.

[papau]

25. LOL - well said - but these various groups actually produced music -Barack nada in politics or music

[Forkboy]

22. Nah, Hillary is Cannibal Corpse trying to devour her own party.

Obama is the Angels of Light bringing celestial choirs down upon us.

And it's still 2008. x(

[madrchsod]

24. she listened to the " four seasons"

[StrongBad]

26. As an Obama supporter I don't know if I like this analogy

Because Pet Sounds was way more influential then and way more relevant now when it comes to making a record than anything the Beatles ever did.

I like this thread. We can have two flamewars for the price of one!

[Upton]

27. Hillary is more like Minnie Pearl

when she speaks in Texas she suddenly develops a pronounced southern accent.

[IDemo]

29. Obama - closer to Bob Dylan: the times, they are a changin'

Hillary, more like the Mamas and the Papas: Washington, DC dreamin'

[Rageneau]

30. Clinton is Paul McCartney. Obama is Ringo.

IOW, Hillary can play every instrument, has been an equal partner to one of the greatest song-writers of the age, and is herself endlessly creative.

Obama is the funny-looking new guy with the permanent grin, who has never really done anything, but whom everybody instinctively likes.

So, in eight years, we can either be listening to six dynamite new albums full of all kinds of good music, or we can be listening to remixes of "Octopus's Garden," and "Yellow Submarine."

As far as I know, that is.

[jillan]

32. Obama is Jim Morrison, Hillary is Joni Mitchell.

[Viking12]

33. Does that make McCain 'Pat Boone'