Why didn't Obama change his name to the people who raised him?

[billbuckhead]

Bill Clinton and Steve Jobs come to mind.

[islandmkl]

1. then he could be accused of having 'something to hide'....

for the 'some may say' crowd...

[NightWatcher]

4. be cool, he's only got one more idiotic post left for the day,

[islandmkl]

16. oh great...now you have him counting on his fingers...

[grantcart]

17. 644

[Recursion]

26. -rw-r--r--?

I'm missing something

[grantcart]

38. 644 is Obama's magic number

the poster said the OP only had 2 posts left today and there would be no more stupid posts

Obama only has 644 delegates left before he is the nominee and all of the stupid posts go away.

sorry for being too cryptic.

[Recursion]

41. Ah, my bad. UNIX on the brain

Cool enough.

[surfermaw]

73. Read on rootsweb...genealogy

Some state he descends from Captain Thomas Harris, now verified by me, he comes down the line from the Capt to William Harris and Mary Giles their daughter Elizabeth Harris, heck there are enough Harris's in the nation to elect him, as there were many Clintons in Ark, to help Bill Clinton

[surfermaw]

74. Capt. Thomas came to Henrico Co.VA in 1611, second in command for the end C.

[melody]

2. Oh, family pride maybe? Heritage? All those things?

We each make those choices. Bill Clinton obviously felt more in tune with his stepfather than he did
his biological father, so he kept that name. Or perhaps it was just force of habit, in both instances.

[Lucinda]

6. Doubt family pride has anything to do with it

since he often says they were abandoned by his father.
I find the Barry to Barack change more intersting, but both are non-issues.

[melody]

13. Family pride doesn't just mean father ... I am proud of my father's family, not of him

And "Barry" sounds a lot like a nickname.

[Lucinda]

22. He was Barry all through High School. No biggie though. It IS his name.

I use my middle name and not my first name. Also no biggie.

[melody]

53. Well, I'm "Mel" to my family and friends, but Melody in formal dealings

Jimmy Carter was unusual to use an informal name in formal settings.

And as you point out, it's not that unusual or big a deal.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

28. Same thing here

My father deserted us and wound up in jail for many different crimes. But his father was a hard working, honorable man, as was his father and his grandfather. And my brother is an honorable person, a decorated Viet Nam War veteran who has had a scholarship named in his honor upon his retirement from a local college.

[Bluerthanblue]

71. you obviously know NOTHING about what being the child of

a less than 'perfect' parent is like.

You don't stop loving them, simply because they have dissapointed or hurt you- ????

some people on here are so frickin stupid.

:shrug:












peace~

[rox63]

3. I believe Bill Clinton was actually legally adopted by his step-father

Usually, the children take the last name of their adoptive father. I don't think Obama was ever adopted by his step-father.

[surfermaw]

65. Bill Clinton did his own adoption, he wanted his little brother and he to have the same name,

I think he changed it when his brother started to school.

[AtomicKitten]

5. He is who he is with no apologies.

The Clintons lean heavily toward subterfuge, bullshit, and magic tricks because they can't beat Barack head-on.

[LoZoccolo]

7. Because he didn't forsee running for President against an opponent willing to act racist. n/t

[billbuckhead]

37. People of many races have the name "Hussein"

Can't be racism.

[cali]

8. Why not educate yourself? Or is that just too much trouble for you?

First of all, Bill Clinton was adopted by his step-father. Secondly, Obama was brought up by his mother until he was in his early teens. It was only when his mother returned to Indonesia, and he wanted to stay at Punahao that he moved in with his maternal grandparents. So you see, for most of his life, his mother brought him up.

Lastly, why the fuck should he have changed his name. Sick suggestion.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

21. As a person who was raised by their mother only

until I was 16, when she remarried, I understand exactly what you are saying. I didn't change my name to match my step father's when she re-married. Frankly, the few times when someone called me "Miss" with my step-father's surname made me feel really weird, and I LOVED my step-father. That just wasn't my name.

[ronnykmarshall]

46. Bill was never adopted by his step-father.

He changed his name to Clinton after his brother was born so they would have the same last name.

[Mags]

51. so that Michelle wouldn't have to ask the whole world not to use his middle name.

[EmperorHasNoClothes]

9. He's clearly concealing some deep, dark, secret

and THAT is why he kept the name Obama. :eyes:

[Dogmudgeon]

10. Who cares?

Imagine going through life with the name "Pigwidgeon". But do you see ME changing me name? Noooo.....

--p!

[yellowcanine]

11. Bill Clinton never knew his real father and he was adopted by his stepdad I believe.

The child usually does not decide what his name is going to be. Besides, what is wrong with Obama's name? It is easy to say and spell.

[mahina]

12. Because he honored his father and mother.

This was the name his mother and father gave him.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

14. Clinton never knew his father

and I believe his stepfather legally adopted him. Obama knew his father, who was in the picture for the first two years of Obama's life. Perhaps the stepfather didn't want to adopt Obama because of support issues.

I kept my birth name, which is still part of my legal name, even though I had a stepfather who helped raise me. My natural father deserted the family and never supported us, but I didn't feel I needed to change my last name, nor did my brother. His courage and valor in Viet Nam redeemed our surname from any dishonor, I feel, and I am glad that his children all still bear that surname.

[Avalux]

15. Are you trying to say he is a secretly a muslim? What gives?

This is an idiotic post.

[cali]

20. It's also a hit and duck

posted only to be ugly. Cowardly is the word that comes to mind.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

25. And frankly I'm tired of people implying there's something wrong with being Muslim

Muslims I know are honorable people and very open and polite to people--if you identify yourself you are accepted as a brother or sister, no questions asked about to which sect you belong, etc.

It seems that there is a move in this country to demonize all Muslims, and that is regrettable and sad.

[Avalux]

27. I agree completely.

I thought so when whats-his-face asked Hillary that question on 60 minutes. What's wrong with being a muslim? Unfortunately to a lot of people in this country, muslim = evil terrorist. There are those who exploit that and it's disgusting.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

35. And the fear and hatred is escalating

Last month a mosque just over the line in Missouri was firebombed. My boss has said that all Muslims should be deported, and has ranted and raved against them. Needless to say, I don't mention my faith, and thank my lucky stars I look WASP.

[billbuckhead]

33. If that's true, why is it wrong to call him "Hussein"

Either he should proudly wear it or change it? Seems pretty obvious.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

36. because the people calling him by his middle name

are the ones who are also spreading the lies about Muslims.

[billbuckhead]

39. Have proof of that?

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

yes

I believe a Mr. Cunningham was saying things like that. And look at any right wing talker who has used his middle name--then look at what they have said and implied about Muslims.

[melody]

54. PLEASE -- it's your whole point in using the middle name!!

You're using it to denigrate Obama -- to make points for Hillary. Why else use it? Why not just stick to matters of policy? Because you're using his middle name to imply something bad about him. It's the only reason you'd use it in such an instance. If you're going to be a bigot, at least be honest about it.

[billbuckhead]

62. It seems Obama uses it as ethnic jujitsu to be all things to all people

He's sold as the black candidate to blacks, but sold as not the black candidate to whites. He's proud of his name but don't use it, etc. It seems Obamas main weapon is political correctness.

[melody]

79. Political correctness is what my grandmother used to call COURTESY!

We don't call people names to disparage them. You're not making any point about Obama other than to smear him as something
he ISN'T. Besides it is HIS name and he can use it as he likes -- and anyway I thought your assertion was he was ashamed of
it.

I'm glad you supposed "Hillary supporter" trolls are finally being more overt about your racism.

[billbuckhead]

80. I'm not clling him "names". I'm calling him his official name

Why can't this guy be called his official name? What's on his drivers licensce?

[melody]

81. Because you're doing it for the same reason my racist uncle is doing it

To denigrate him. In my uncle's case, at least he's being honest about it.

Obama states his name (when he does) to validate his own identity. You're using it to denigrate him.
He's not harming you by claiming his own name -- you're trying to disparage him.

If you have a problem with Obama, and it's truly not because of his heritage, why target his name? Why
not target his issues?

[Avalux]

42. You're not that stupid are you? n/t

[apocalypsehow]

56. Something seems "pretty obvious," alrighty - your subtle bigotry being one of them.

n/t.

[yellowcanine]

18. No doubt he also made a secret trip to Mecca when he was three years old.

He kept it secret from his school mates to maintain his viability as a presidential candidate.

[fishwax]

19. what a weird question

:shrug:

[MagickMuffin]

23. Why?.?.?

What are you driving at here?.?.?

What's WRONG with his name?.?.?


Clinton and Jobs were adopted, so they naturally took their parents name.:shrug:

[LoZoccolo]

24. Hit and run. n/t

[billbuckhead]

29. Why would would you keep the name of a father who rejected you?

Seems pathetic to me.

[eileen_d]

32. That must be why he did it

Because he wanted to be pathetic!

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

40. Because it is your name

I was rejected and deserted by my father when I was young. Before then, my life had not been pleasant because of his actions. Yet when my mother divorced him, she did not take back her maiden name nor did she make her children change their surname. That surname is ours, and ours to make honorable again, which we did through our actions.

[cali]

49. What's pathetic are slimy posts

like the OP you wrote. YOU are calling Obama pathetic, buckyhead?

:rofl:

[Name removed]

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[Adelante]

59. It's none of your business nt

[Bluerthanblue]

69. you are pathetic

:nuke:

[Danger Mouse]

76. You are absolutely pathetic.

:puke:

[blogslut]

30. Why should he have?

?

[ContinentalOp]

31. He's trying to cover up the fact that...

he's actually a white man from Kansas named Stanley Dunman Jr. He figured that if he adopted a name with more of a Muslim flavor it would really help him win elections. :eyes:

[mmonk]

34. Why?

[LoZoccolo]

43. Why doesn't Hillary post hippy pictures of her and Bill on her campaign signs? n/t

[Bucky]

64. I've seen 'em as hippies. They were a cute couple.

They still are. Show some respect.

[Maddy McCall]

44. Why should he? His name is his.

[eileen_d]

45. It's certainly none of your business. nt

[Hepburn]

47. Nominate this for the DUMBEST post of the last two weeks!

WTF does it matter if he used his legal name and prefered to NOT change it?

Unbelievable........:eyes:

[LoZoccolo]

48. Why won't Hillary tell us if she inhaled with Bill? n/t

[Vinca]

52. Why on earth would you care whether Barack changed his name or not?

Maybe he was looking toward the future and hoping someday he'd be attacked by bigots and idiots.

[Forkboy]

55. Lots of recs for this one! Even your fellow Hillary supporters know you're an ass.

:rofl:

[sybylla]

57. Then you're saying women should keep their names when they marry

to honor those what raised them.

There's lots of people out there who carry their names for a reason. And it's no body's business but their own.

[LisaM]

58. I think times have just changed. Gerald Ford changed his name, too

his birth name was Leslie King. But I think it's far more common NOW for people to have multiple names within families. Heck, Jan, Marcia, and Cindy all changed their name to Brady (I don't even know what it originally was - but it wasn't Brady).

[LoZoccolo]

60. All in favor of declaring that this post is playing on bigotry say "aye". n/t

[uppityperson]

61. Clinton was adopted? I didn't know that. Odd. Thought I knew everything.

Or do you mean he should've changed his name to Bill Clinton or Steve Jobs?

[Bucky]

63. Bill Clinton and Steve Jobs raised Obama?

No wonder he supports gay rights.

[KoKo]

66. Obama comes from a VERY PROUD...AFRICAN HERITAGE...what's wrong with you...that you would ask

this question? Bill Clinton had African Parent...Steve Jobs had African Parent...Both of whom went through HARVARD and got a PhD? :sarcasm:

No matter what Obama's Poppa did...with all his wives and children all over...he was INCREDIBLY BRIGHT...to get a Ph.D from HARVARD?

Neither Bill Clinton, nor Steve Jobs...worked that hard! So...what of it? They had "other talents."

Obama's Dad was a "crash cart wreck" for all his "Ph.D" from Harvard did for him when he wrecked his life and himself in car crashes.

:shrug: Whatever it is...

[Bluerthanblue]

67. perhaps because he believed America was better than it is-

that people were not so shallow, bigoted and hateful.

I admire that he is unwilling to betray his heritage and is willing to challenge the slander thrown by dirty politicians.


peace~

[Fox Mulder]

68. Why does he need to?

[Skittles]

70. that is a personal decision

not really debatable

[Raine]

72. Should he have a name like John Smith? Would

that satisfy you? It's cool to have an unusual name, everyone remembers you and you grow into it. I have an unusual first middle and last name. I hated it when I was a kid and wished it was just something plain and simple. My parents gave me an unique name because they didn't want me to be part of the crowd. As I grew up I loved my name more and more and appreciated the gift my parents had given me when they gave me a unique name.

[tammywammy]

75. My brothers father deserted them when they were young

Half-brothers I should say. Neither were adopted by my father, their step-father. 1 legally changed his last name after he turned 18 in order to not be associated with his own father. The other kept his last name. It's a preference for people, and just because someone's parent leaves them while they're young doesn't mean they don't still harbor feelings towards them.

[Danger Mouse]

77. This post is shameful and disgusting. You're an embarassment to your fellow Hillary supporters.

I didn't change my name when my mother re-married (i was 13 at the time), and my dad wasn't there for me at the time, either.
But I wanted to keep my name because it's my own.
You're only asking this question to be an ass.

[Robeson]

82. What Elrond said.

[stillcool]

78. I always wanted to change my name..

but I was never adopted. It wasn't until I got old enough to really develop a sense of self, that I "owned" my name, rather than be ashamed of it because it was different than the family du jour I was living with. This topic brings up some very sad memories, but I don't understand what it has to do with a Presidential candidate. Can you tell me why this is important to you?