Obama supporters: Switch to Clinton!

[mculator]

If Obama isn't backing up his politics with action (NAFTA), if his policies don't resemble change but rather a keen similarity to Hillary's, and if you think he would have voted "present" on the war he claims to have rejected yet has consistently voted to fund---there's a simple solution! Hillary cares about you, and if CANADA has to step in for her, well, then Democrats should too! The media did nothing but cover Obama's favorite books and ice cream flavors, and alas, the best candidate has been put on the ropes. But we, Hillary supporters, have not given up! We have not used racism to combat sexism. We are still here, and we want you to come home to the Democratic party. Playing with republicans and bringing people together will not pay the repukes back for a HORRIBLE 7 YEARS!

Come home!

[anonymous171]

1. Clinton supports McCain, who is worse than NAFTA

[CaliforniaDemocrat]

2. That is such garbage. Sorry. Please show some respect and stop trying to mislead Democrats

[melody]

14. It is true -- she praised McCain as "experienced"

... while tearing down Obama.

I once had great respect for her ... now I'm so angry at her, I can bear to watch her on TV.

[CaliforniaDemocrat]

40. He *is* experienced. What's the beef?

[melody]

50. He's also the GOP -- he's a Republican and Bush apologist -- THAT'S my beef. HITLER had experience

I'm sorry, I used to be the biggest Clinton fan in the world ... they have sunk so low now in my opinion
level that they're practically "part of the problem".

[Skoods]

133. You're the one

supporting the guy who says that he wants to "unite" the GOP and Dems and act all civilized and loving. It's kind of odd that you'd support a candidate who doesn't show the same animosity towards the GOP that you do.

[melody]

136. There's a big difference between working with the GOP and supporting one over a Democrat

Bill Clinton worked with the GOP ... that was HIS strategy.

Besides, Obama is the nominee ... going against him now is ONLY helping the GOP.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

140. Hillary: McCain would be better than Obama! (UPDATED)

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/3/3/174218/4966/721/468110

[Skoods]

146. She never says he would be better than Obama.

[Auntie Bush]

108. Wow, you sure get upset easily! Take some prosac!

McCain is experienced? Who'd have thought it? My bad for thinking such a thing. Just throw me and all Hillary suporters under the bus! :sarcasm:

[melody]

112. At this point, Hillary and her supporters are throwing the entire DNC under a bus n/t

[bvar22]

114. !

If Hillary would spend 1/2 the time fighting Republicans as she spends attacking Democrats, she could have my vote.

[melody]

118. amen n/t

[BlackVelvet04]

130. DUH.....it's not the time to fight the republicans....

when you're in a fight for the candidacy.

[EmperorHasNoClothes]

54. Stop trying to mislead Democrats?

And yet in your OP you post:

"If Obama isn't backing up his politics with action (NAFTA)"
ALREADY DEBUNKED

"If his policies don't resemble change but rather a keen similarity to Hillary's"
Or Hillary's have a keen similarity to Obama's? What a silly argument.

"And if you think he would have voted "present""
Please, not this B.S. again. Go study what a Present vote is for in Illinois, and why Obama voted Present when he did, instead of having your knee-jerk reaction about it.

"on the war he claims to have rejected"
He did reject it, please go watch the video of him doing so

"yet has consistently voted to fund"
As opposed to what? Leaving the soldiers in Iraq with no equipment?

Talk about misleading.

[mculator]

64. Man you said Debunked

But it isn't! It just made CNN! DEBUNKED??? WHERE?!?!

[EmperorHasNoClothes]

101. Debunked by the GOVERNMENT OF CANADA

You know, the ones Obama is secretly conspiring with? Go read a few other threads.

[mculator]

3. ^^ no wonder he's anon, I'd hate to put my name behind that comment! n/t

[jillan]

57. And Obama idolizes Reagan - who imho was one of the worst President's ever.

[anonymous171]

68. False accusation.

He was talking about how Reagan changed the political field. He DID NOT say that Reagan's ideas were GOOD, just that they satisfied what people wanted at the time.

[jillan]

103. But it's not a false accusation to say that Hillary supports McCain?

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

139. Bill had some dealings with a certain Canadian billionaire

Bill had some dealings with a certain Canadian billionaire -- helped with a Uranium mining deal if I recall. Does anyone know if this can in anyway be connected?

[LeftCoast]

152. That's a LIE

And if it's not you better show me the quote.

[CPschem]

4. bite me

sincerely,

DU Obama Supporters

[mculator]

7. I love you too.

I'd love your vote even though your attitude can't be helped.

[quinnox]

Come on home to the Democratic party Obama supporters!

Switch to Hillary, We need you to save this party!

[rox63]

17. No, Hillary needs us to save her ass

And I'm not switching anything. GOBAMA!!!

[Mags]

52. Please, don't do it for Hillary do it for our Country.

[mculator]

58. And our party!

[Hepburn]

30. ...........

:puke:

[intaglio]

128. Save the DLC n/t

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

141. She is completely willing to write John McCain's talking points for him

so to help her IS to help the GOP

[leftofcool]

5. I'm already home.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

144. Rush Limpballs likes Hillary too, urging TX voters to vote for Hillary

only way McCain can win, since he doesn't have a good ground operation.

[ingac70]

6. Hillary was never "home" for me...

and her coordinating attacks on Obama with McCain has put her on my serious shit list.

[mculator]

13. Well if you go broke one day,

You'll need subsidized health care, and it will be there. Consider it a transaction. Even if you hate Hillary, she benefits you, man.

[ingac70]

22. If I am broke I won't have the money...

to pay the premiums she mandates. And that will stop me from getting a job... (part of her plan)

[mculator]

73. Subsidized means paid for.

That one's free.

[ingac70]

125. Subsidized...

http://www.wordreference.com/definition/subsidized

having PARTIAL financial support from public funds;

NOT FREE.

[ProSense]

8. Hillary's campaign is now relying on the media to distort Obama's positions to help them

squeeze out a victory?

Think Americans are buying it?

[Alhena]

9. Shyeah- right. That'll happen

[bicentennial_baby]

10. No sale, thanks

:)

[rox63]

11. Clinton doesn't give a crap about me, or about you

Come home? No thanks, if that's home, I'll keep travelling.

[mculator]

21. Don't be a hater--I'm not slamming you for picking an Orator for an administrative job!

[rox63]

33. This thread is pure flamebait

And I'm really sorry that I fell for the bait.

[EmperorHasNoClothes]

63. President of the U.S. is an "administrative job" ?

wow.

[mculator]

74. Yeah it's the Oval OFFICE not the Oval PODIUM.

[EmperorHasNoClothes]

98. I see. So the president just sits around shuffling papers all day.

Leadership abilities are not important. Got it.

[bunnies]

12. I think I just threw up a little bit in my mouth.

I'll stick with Obama thanks.

[Coexist]

16. lol! You beat me to it!

[bunnies]

36. Great guts react alike!

:toast:

[Coexist]

48. .

:toast:

[mculator]

61. Great minds think alike but fools seldom differ.......

[bunnies]

81. Looks like you changed your position on "attitudes and rudeness" eh? nt

[mculator]

18. What would it take?

Attitude and rudeness won't help your candidate. What would Hill have to do for your support?

[rox63]

24. She ain't getting it

If she were to somehow miraculously become the nominee, I would vote for her. But it would be an anti-Republican vote, not a pro-Clinton vote.

[Hepburn]

37. Morph into a Democrat for starters. n/t

[bunnies]

80. Does she have a time machine?

Because if not, it makes no sense for me to bother answering this question.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

142. Tell us where you got the $54 Million, Billary

and show us your tax returns NOW.

[sniffa]

15. bwahahahaha

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[JKaiser]

19. I am for hillary, a lot of my family were supporting Obama until today. He messed up.

[mculator]

23. I'm Ohio for Hill!

[ingac70]

26. Liar.

[JKaiser]

60. okay..

[mculator]

77. ha! Born in Dayton right near WP USAF base, baby.

[bicentennial_baby]

28. Really? How so?

And how was it egregious enough for your family to switch?

[JKaiser]

55. The whole nafta thing..

My dad worked with in the textile industry before his job was sent overseas. He sees that Obama isn't any better than Hillary on the whole nafta thing now he, my mom and my brother won't vote.

[bicentennial_baby]

78. Hmmm....Do they realize that

no Dem is going to run anti-NAFTA in the GE? Highly, highly doubtful. Red meat for the base, that's what that is. Politics.

[JKaiser]

91. I understand. They are just really sensitive to that issue. I know they will

vote but for right now they just feel betrayed.

[rug]

20. Will you throw in a bigger pony?

[mculator]

29. Man I'd do anything

To guarantee Universal Health Care. :)

I was Edwards, now I'm Clinton!

[bvar22]

147. Forcing ALL Americans to BUY their own Private Health Insurance ...

...is NOT Universal HealthCare.

MediCare for ALL Americans IS Universal HealthCare.

BIG Difference...especially if you are the CEO of a Large Health Insurance Corporation....like Hillary's biggest contributors.

[Hepburn]

25. ESAD...OK?

[NJmaverick]

We should switch to Clinton because of a lie?

What does that say about you and your candidate.

[NJmaverick]

27. We should switch to Clinton because of a lie?

What does that say about you and your candidate.

[mculator]

34. What lie?

[NJmaverick]

41. The Canadian NAFTA lie

That is making the rounds. You know the one that has been officially DENIED by the OFFICIALs of Canada.

[mculator]

83. Actually, not at all.

The Obama camp was JUST on CNN affirming that is is truth! Who told you it was a lie? Link?!

[NJmaverick]

119. The Canadian Embassy in Washington confirmed the lie

Contact them if you don't believe me.

[mohc]

31. Come home?

This sentiment is exactly why Clinton is losing. Clinton has run a lousy campaign, banking on being seen as the "rational" choice. It as if the nomination belongs to her, and challenges to her nomination are in fact challenges of the party itself. While there have been plenty that rallied around this concept, there have been far more that have rallied to Obama.

[DJ13]

32. Im sorry, but Hillary can go to hell

She's now putting her personal ambitions ahead of the entire party.

I cannot support someone who is that selfish.

[mculator]

39. You're wrong, but that's ok.

Some of us think she's doing the best thing for the party. Some of us don't want to hold hands with republicans or have them "be a democrat for a day"

[Hepburn]

96. I don't want to hold the bloody hands of someone who...

...voted like this:

YES on the IWR

NO on the Levin Amendment

NO on banning cluster bombs

You wanna hold her BLOODY hands... that's your choice but don't expect me to EVER support Hillary the Hawk.

:grr:

[Auntie Bush]

120. WTF? Last I knew...this was still a democracy and we have prinaries

to determine our candidate. Now please tell me where my thinking has gone wrong on that issue. I don't remember anyone complaining when Edwards campaigned against Kerry for so long. People seemed to realize that was his right. I haven't heard a single person question why Huckabee is still in the race. I also don't remember anyone complaining in 2004 that Kooch was in it for so long. But you are a typical Obama supporter as I've heard that type of sick question many times. Which make me ask...do Obama supporters really believe in democracy? Or have you gone over to the Rethug side of thinking?

[democrattotheend]

131. Edwards dropped out after Kerry had an insurmountable delegate lead

I am not saying that Clinton needs to drop out now, but it will be tough for her to catch up in the delegate race at this point. Edwards dropped out after the first Tuesday in March last time, but a lot more states have already voted this time around.

[yourguide]

35. Maybe it's you who should come home

and support Obama. You guys just will not let go will you, you cant accept it's time to pass the torch. you grip it and hold it and will not let it go.

Maybe you should listen to the rest of your party and YOU should come home.

[mculator]

43. Hillary has never asked Republicans to "be a democrat for a day"

[yourguide]

66. I welcome republicans and independants into the fold

Again my friend, out with the old and in with the new, it's all changing - many are sick and tired of partisanship and the old politics on BOTH sides.

The torch will pass whether you like it or not, perhaps you should considering joining us and come on home...

[mculator]

110. Ahem... he said "For a day" and that day will NOT be in Novemeber, mister.

[yourguide]

115. First off I am a Miss

and second off he has made it clear that all are welcome.

I am so tired of the same old politics, the attacks from HRC reek of the old school way of doing business and I am sick of it. It wont change if we vote for the same old politics again.

She is the establishment candidate but havent you heard the news, the american people are pretty well sick of the establishment way of doing things.

How she can run around talking about change and then play the same old political dirty tricks has made me go from "I would would be psyched to see Bill walk back into the white house laughing his ass off" to "no way do I want to see them anywhere near the place".

It's time, everyone keeps talking about how this is tearing the party apart but it's tearing the party apart because the old guard refuses to let go of the torch, even burning fellow democrats in the process in order to keep it.

It's time, it's time to let go and realize the party is moving in a new direction.

[saracat]

38. Great post!

[thevoiceofreason]

42. She represents very little of my core set of beliefs

I'll vote for her if she's the nom, but I won't eat that day, if you know what I mean.

[mculator]

45. Obama practically copied every one of her policies--what does he represent?

[thevoiceofreason]

89. She dittoed her energy policy off of his

Except for calling for the stupid windfall profits tax (also known as the tax of not-wealthy royalty owners and small stripper well oeprators), which he has never supported.

[slor]

44. I still like Hillary...

despite what her supporters say and do. That being said, I look forward to Obama's presidency.

[islandmkl]

46. just as being amusing does not make YOU a muse...

being anal does not make YOU an analyst...

[mculator]

51. You're not a master debater--

Just because you're masturbating with your posts!

[cali]

62. speaking of maturbation, you've left, um, residue all over your

wanked off OP.

[mculator]

70. Did it make you mad that I ask for Obama supporters to switch?

If you read this thread, you'll see that people already have. Eat it.

[cali]

75. No. I just have an aversion to stupid. n/t

[mculator]

92. I've read your posts.

You got mad at BO for the Reagan comments. And your opinion is pretty much always the same: you'd die for BO. I hope you meet him someday. Get him to autograph your chest, LOL.

That's the last reply I'll ever give to Cali, who should have the tag "A Barack Obama production" automatically added to his shitty posts.

[cali]

109. You clearly don't read for comprehension, dear. I've criticized Obama

on his comments about abortion, on McClurkin, on not voting on Kyle/Lieberman, on not having shown leadership on Iraq and now on this NAFTA thing. YOU are the one slobbering all over Hilly's toes in orgasmic fashion. I've never seen one word of criticism of your adored candidate from YOU.

[cali]

86. I read the thread. Not one single Obama supporter said anything

other than "fuck off". One Hillybot said that her family members switched. That is not a first person testimonial, dear. It could be true or it could be a lie.

[Ichingcarpenter]

47. Come to the fear mongering Hillary Party

Playing with McCain, as Hillary has done,
just makes my heart going pitter pater.

[Catherina]

49. I'd rather have an ice pick shoved in my ear

In other words... No thank you.


Remember 4 years ago? Hillary, don't vote for the war?

Maybe you weren't one of the ones who wrote to her. I was and I don't forget. She went ahead and voted for it anyway. Over our objections.

All the distractions playing the 'victims of sexism card with hands so clean you could never be racists' isn't fooling anyone. I have nothing in common with people who think their delicate ears are more important than millions of people dying in the Middle East.

What the hell home are you talking about?

Nope... Not interested until the house is fumigated.

[mculator]

53. She couldn't vote present... what's a girl to do?

[Catherina]

79. Vote No

:shrug:

Was that too hard for her?

Hillary put electability ahead of integrity. Bad move.

[mculator]

93. "Present"

[Catherina]

117. Don't worry. I understand. Your sorrow leaves you at a loss for words

I'd be mortally embarrassed too if I were lugging around a dead DLC duck like Hillary.



America First. Clinton Never.
Americans First. Sexism and Racism Never.
Clintonian Politics of Triangulation. Never Again.

[sniffa]

124. He's still in Stage 1

Give him some slack.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4848697

[Catherina]

145. Stage 1?

Stage 1 - Denial - She leads national polls and leads in overall delegates.

Gotcha. Thanks.

Ok, I'll be nice. If only for one more day ;)

[cali]

56. what a steaming pile.

barely an honest word in your lame OP. Particularly the bit about Hillary supporters not using racism. Hilly supporters have been pizzaed off DU for their blatant and ugly racism, and the Clinton camp used dubious tactics in NH, SC and NV.

[elizm]

59. Over my dead body. nt

[Rosa Luxemburg]

65. home?

[islandmkl]

67. "Come home to the Clintons"...

why? Do they need something done around the house?

[democrattotheend]

69. Nope, sorry

Already voted for Obama in VA, and would do so again in a heartbeat.

[mmonk]

71. .

[blogslut]

72. No thank you

For one, I already voted. Two, my candidate is better.

[RBInMaine]

76. Half the country hates Hillary. How the hell can she lead???

[mculator]

82. And half AT LEAST hated Bush. You can guarantee that Republicans will hate the next 8 years ...

if she is elected. Payback, not kum-bah-ya.

[Name removed]

84. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[bicentennial_baby]

87. Knock it off

Alerted.

[anonymous171]

88. C'mon, change your post.

That's uncalled for. There are plenty of other names that fit Clinton, but that one does not apply.

[mculator]

94. Jeez ^ She's a bitch? Like I said, I won't resort to racism to combat your crap. Alerting.

[fight4my3sons]

97. that's uncalled for, even if you don't agree with the OP or like

Hillary

[Dawgs]

85. No thanks. I want to win this time.

[donheld]

90. Switch to Clinton! HAHAHAHAHA

What a laugh

[jakefrep]

95. If she's the nominee (legitimately) I'll think about it.

[fight4my3sons]

99. no thanks

[OhioChick]

100. Yeah, Right...

:rofl:

[mculator]

102. I'm Ohio Dude-- does that make me your nemisis?

Great another female who won't vote for the first viable female candidate. Exactly why women who couldn't vote when they were born will have to die without seeing a female president.

[OhioChick]

104. I Vote For Whomever I

Think is Most Qualified. Not Due to Their Sex or Race.

[mculator]

107. I guess you've never heard of solidarity!

Pre-Iowa: African American support for Obama 30%. Post Iowa: 80-90%. Why NOT be solid behind the candidate that breaks the glass ceiling?

[OhioChick]

111. .....

"Why NOT be solid behind the candidate that breaks the glass ceiling?"

I Am.

"I guess you've never heard of solidarity!"

Sure Have. Why Not Join Me?

[democrattotheend]

132. Aren't you a white male?

So who the hell are you to say that women should be showing solidarity by voting for Clinton?

[whatchamacallit]

105. Clinton supporters: Don't Switch to Obama

We don't want you!

[mculator]

106. I would if Hillary wasn't who I thought she was. But good point.

[Vinca]

113. Why would I support a fear mongerer? We've had 7 years of that. nt

[ChromeFoundry]

116. You've got to be shitting me!

Go Obama!

[MagickMuffin]

121. NO thanks, I will be voting for Obama

I missed Barack's favorite flavor of ice cream.

Please pray tell what is it?.?.?

Hillary drove me away from her with her constant attacks on our candidates. I don't like the MEN she surrounds herself.

Terry McAuliffe who was DNC chair for several years didn't do anything to help the party attract new voters. He DID NOT help John Kerry.


Mark Penn Burson-Marsteller uber lobbyist for Blackwater USA: In 2007, reacting to claims that they killed several Iraqi civilians without cause, the US based private security firm Blackwater hired Burson-Marsteller subsidiary BKSH to scrub their tarnished image.

Saudi Arabia, et al.: B-M has worked for a host of regimes with appalling human rights records including the notoriously repressive and corrupt government of Saudi Arabia, the Romanian dictator Nicolae Ceaucescu, and the governments of Sri Lanka and Singapore. Three days after the September 11 attack on the World Trade Center in New York, in which 13 of the 16 alleged suicide bombers were Saudis, Saudi Arabia again hired B-M to ensure that its national image remains untarnished

Countrywide: In September 2007 the firm was retained by struggling mortgage lender Countrywide Financial to promote a public relation effort entitled "Protect Our House" aimed at addressing the firm's image following its downsizing and increased rate of foreclosures


John Edwards had formerly compared Penn to Karl Rove.



James Carville is MARRIED to a Rethuglicon operative. Carville called his wife the night of the '04 elections to inform her Kerry was considering contesting the election.



Howard Wolfson Partner in The Glover Park Group: The firm's New York clients have included Cablevision, Verizon, the New School, Newscorp, and the United Federation of Teachers.

Executive Director at the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (DCCC) in 2001 and 2002. At the DCCC, he oversaw advertising in over 40 media markets and was responsible for a $50 million budget.

Did he pick up any SEATS for the Democrats running for office?.?.?



Bill Clinton has a lot of baggage from when he was president.

Hillary claims she wants to increase Green Collar jobs here.

Why oh WHY, didn't he do anything about GREEN JOBS back then?.?.?

His own VP Al Gore had already written the book "The Earth in Balance" yet Clinton wasn't concerned about those issues.

Bill didn't DO anything about BCCI, Iran Contra, or any of the other CRIMES Bush I were involved in, I'm pretty sure his wife wouldn't do anything about Bush II.

Why should I believe Hillary would do anything about Mad king Boy George's CRIMES?.?.?


Nice try but this 50 year old white woman is voting for Barack TOMORROW....

[texas_indy]

123. Excellent post!! The O-MAN is the REAL THING!!! TEXAS FOR OBAMA!!!! (NT)

[MagickMuffin]

129. TEXAS FOR OBAMA

I've had enough of the Clintons in the Oval Office to last a lifetime.

[tammywammy]

122. No thanks

[mythyc]

126. umm, I think I'll pass on your ir-alluring offer

thanks though :eyes:

while I'm at it, --ignore for the sick hyperbole, smearing, and falsified record slants

[meow mix]

127. No thanks

:puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:

[Redstone]

134. No.

Redstone

[Guava Jelly]

135. If Obama drops out I will

Not before.

[democrattotheend]

138. Me too n/t

[HughBeaumont]

137. Nawp.

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/HughBeaumont/32
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/HughBeaumont/33

I love how now she's populist when it's convenient when 3 years ago she was praising offshoring and free trade.

Oh, and there's that little believing the worst president this country's ever been disgraced with when lives were on the line thing. Twice.

[cooolandrew]

143. Erm I think we still recall being called cultist and deluded. Thanks for the

kind offer though. I am afraid on this occasion I will have to pas. God bless.

[AZBlue]

148. Hillary cares about no one and nothing but Hillary.

No one. Nothing.

[Arugula Latte]

149. "Hillary cares about you" ---> No, Hillary cares only about Hillary.

Screw her. After today, I now officially despise her.

[krkaufman]

150. "pay the repukes back"

I give a flip about paying anyone back, at this point. ALL THAT MATTERS, is that we have the ability to effect change, and your payback approach is just more of the same politics of hate and division that will set us further back.

Thanks, but no. The dysfunctional home you describe is no place to be.

[PretzelWarrior]

151. your sentiments are horrible

playing with Republicans and bringing people together will not pay back the repukes???

so you're looking for the vengeance vote? good luck with that. most are looking for solutions which working with Republicans is likely to bring about.

[angie_love]

153. For OBAMA ALL THE WAY! Obama rules, Hillary drools

[mattclearing]

154. Hillary doesn't care about anybody but herself.

She used racism to combat a better campaign, and it still didn't work. Your time is up.