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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 03:41 PM
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CNN is Karl Rove's bitch...and the biggest "echo chamber" of them all!
Bill Schnider just finished an extended segment, replete with extensive use of Bush campaign ads (free media), at the behest of Karl Rove, who had made the argument to Schneider that Bush's lead in many polls was not due to their "negative" campaign ads, but to their use of the "extensive echo chamber" of the media.

:nuke:
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 03:57 PM
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1. ha ha--the big news in that segment? Kerry #s go UP after Bush ads air
good work, Karl! Thanks 120 million!
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 04:27 PM
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2. just after the selection
the boss`s of cnn went karl to pledge they would forever lick his ass whenever he`d call.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 06:34 PM
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7. rchsod, good job
I've only posted here a few times, but when I read your reply, it made me laugh, and I needed that. Thanks.

-Dinger

(I'm Dinger on several other boards too, just so nobody thinks I'm a freeper)

I also liked the title of this thread-"cnn is Karl rove's bitch"
(take the first letter of rove, put it at the end, & what do you get? OVER!


P.S. I'm an elementary teacher, anybody have suggestions for progressive/liberal reading material for elementary kids? I'd like to stock up my classroom library befrore November.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 09:19 AM
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8. Hi Dinger!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 09:35 AM
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10. Welcome to DU, dinger!
Have you searched amazon.com or bn.com for elementary level books on the founding of our nation--what principles our country is supposed to stand for.
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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 01:40 PM
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19. Look at the social studies text books from the 60's
When I was in high school we had social studies class and out books had topics like, "the invisible poor." It talked about the fact that there were pockets of poverty in America but that they did not get much attention in the news so most Americans were not aware of them.

I doubt there are social studies classes these days without a political slant to them.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 09:45 PM
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21. Thanks for the tips everybody!
I will use your suggestions, thanks!
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 04:48 PM
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3. CNN ratings have dropped 50% recently.
I read in USA Today, this morning, that CNN was down 50%, FOX down 39%. It couldn't be true that America is actually getting tired of being fed administration crap, could it?
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 05:18 PM
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4. That would be the best news of all.....
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 09:19 AM
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9. Hi ladjf!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 10:54 AM
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11. Awesome report, ladjr. Cable news channels are pretty much worthless.
Welcome to DU!
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Zech Marquis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 11:52 AM
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13. ratings have dropped by 50 percent?!
Jesus, that's a disaster! :wow: A self-inflicted disaster at that, ever since CNN decided to become news entertainment :eyes:
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 12:22 PM
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14. I was looking on the site
I don't see it -- do you have a link? Thank you.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 12:54 PM
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15.  Search of USA Today found this article from Washington Times...it's true!
http://www.washtimes.com/functions/print.php?StoryID=20040331-105342-8640r

By Jennifer Harper
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
Published April 1, 2004

It has not been a very promising year for cable news channels. Between January and March, viewership has dropped dramatically on the Fox News Channel, CNN and MSNBC.  Audiences are down by a third at Fox, while CNN and MSNBC both have lost about half of their audiences, according to Nielsen ratings released yesterday.
    
At this time last year, the United States was building up for the war with Iraq, an obvious factor in increased viewership. The presidential primaries couldn't even attract a captive audience.

Fox had 2.2 million viewers in prime time (from 8 to 11 p.m.) at this time a year ago; the figure now stands at 1.4 million, for a drop of 36 percent. CNN had 1.6 million prime-time viewers in 2003 -- now down to 806,000, for a drop of 48 percent.  At MSNBC, there were 666,000 prime-time viewers last year; now it has 333,000, or a drop of 50 percent.  In daytime, Fox had 1.3 million viewers last year; the figure now stands at 824,000, for a drop of 36 percent. CNN had 953,000 daytime viewers this year and 458,000 in 2003 -- a drop of 52 percent. At MSNBC, there were 461,000 daytime viewers in 2003 compared with 234,000 this year -- a drop of 49 percent.

more...
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 01:06 PM
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16. I am willing to wager that if MSNBC and CNN actually...
started to do news again, they'd jump in the ratings.

All of this incessant trash about "Jacko", Scott Peterson, Jackson/Timberlake, Martha Stewart, and all of the other idiocy that is considered, "news" has just disgusted people to the point where they feel like they are watching Entertainment Tonight, instead of anything of substance.

The first Cable News Channel that actually starts reporting NEWS, will take it all away. (Obviously FAUX can't be in the running, because there is so little substance, it is an embarrassment of monumental proportions).

just my 2 cents.

:)
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 01:26 PM
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17. Perhaps that will be Al Gore's New TV Network; they bought NWI...
News World International.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 01:30 PM
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18. From dailykos, re Gore's purchase of MWI from Vivendo for $70M...
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/3/31/233736/343

The Observer has learned that former Vice President Al Gore and business partner Joel Hyatt, an entrepreneur and Democratic fund-raiser, will close the deal to pay around $70 million to French-owned Vivendi Universal this week, making them the owners of the tiny digital-cable channel Newsworld International (NWI), moving Mr. Gore from politics to mini-media-moguldom.

Mr. Gore's group plans to transform the sleepy foreign-news outlet into a youth-oriented public-affairs channel, a jump-cut news network for the iPod set. Despite vociferous claims that the network isn't attempting to be the liberal antidote to Rupert Murdoch's Fox News, it's difficult to ignore the obvious: It may be fair, it may be balanced, but it's going to be owned by Al Gore.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 05:01 PM
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20. It's all too clear from these ratings numbers why cable cheerled us to war
in Iraq! How utterly sad for our democracy!
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 06:31 PM
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6. CNN repeated Schneider segment again on Lou Dobbs...unbelievable
This time, though, without showing Dubya's ads, to try and pretend that they are not part of the Bush/Rove "echo chamber".

What the bastards neglected to mention was today's Los Angeles Times national poll that shows Kerry ahead of Bush by 3 points--49% to 46%-- and the fact that the Bush campaign spent $41.8 million on campaign ads in the month of March alone!

That's not much bang for the buck, Karl.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 10:56 AM
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12. Is this news to someone?
Really?
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