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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 07:40 PM
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Obama camp: What's Clinton hiding?
Edited on Wed Mar-05-08 08:50 PM by proud patriot
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HILLARY, 'MOST SECRETIVE POLITICIAN IN AMERICA'?

From NBC/NJ's Aswini Anburajan and Domenico Montanaro
The Obama campaign is stepping up the rhetoric. Campaign Manager David Plouffe went so far as to call Hillary Clinton the "most secretive politician in America today."

The tough talk underscored not only the negative shift in tone of the Obama campaign in the past 24 hours, but just how contentious this fight for the nomination is becoming.

Part of what the Obama campaign would like the focus to be on is ethics -- something adviser David Axelrod said they would be glad to have a debate over. But the Obama campaign may be a victim of time, since an argument on ethics could be tough to steer with the ongoing Rezko trial.

"I think that you know Sen. Clinton has talked a lot about disclosure in the last few days,” Plouffe told reporters. “Sen. Clinton is the most secretive politician in America today. This has been a pattern throughout her career of the lack of disclosure.”

Echoing Axelrod, Plouffe said the campaign would be more than willing to tangle with the Clintons, appearing to suggest that if needed they would raise issues like Whitewater that plagued the Clintons in the 90s.

What's Hillary hiding?

Obama to Clinton: We've Got Our Own Kitchen Sink

Going negative worked for Hillary Clinton in Ohio and Texas and the Obama campaign knows it.

On a conference call with reporters this afternoon, Obama's chief strategist David Alexrod acknowledged Clinton's kitchen sink strategy and said, "What's good for the goose is good for the gander." Get ready for an ugly six weeks until Pennsylvania, folks.

Axelrod started in on Clinton with the tax return issue. "The vetting of Hillary Clinton has yet to start. The hard questions haven't been asked," he said. "They've talked about change you can Xerox. You can Xerox a tax return. There's not a lot of preparation... it's important people understand what the sources of income are for the household that is going to be the next president."

This all followed on the heels of a memo from the campaign earlier this morning titled, "TAX RETURNS: What does Clinton have to hide?"

For the record, Clinton has said that she will release her tax returns on April 15. The Obama campaign contended today that 80 percent of Democrats will have voted by that time, and that the returns ought to be released immediately. Axelrod called Clinton a "habitual non-discloser," suggesting that the tax return issue was part of a larger problem. The only other thing Clinton hasn't disclosed, as far as anyone can tell, are her records from the White House, which are held at the Clinton library. The Clinton campaign claims that the Bush Administration is the reason for the delay on that issue. (More on that scandal from Michael Isikoff.)

Axelrod spoke directly the press, saying, "We're asking you guys to do your jobs." It was a familiar line for the press on the call. It echoes a refrain from Clinton communications director Howard Wolfson, who has insisted almost daily on Clinton conference calls that the press has been giving Obama a free ride.

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What does Hillary have to hide?

March 05, 2008

Clinton's 527

My colleague Ken Vogel has the scoop that the American Leadership Project -- despite Bob Bauer's best efforts to scare it to death -- has turned into a real 527, a vehicle for wealthy Clinton supporters to exceed campaign finance limits.

I reported earlier in the week that AFSCME had begun to use the group as an outlet for some of it's pro-Clinton spending, but that wasn't all:

A new pro-Hillary Clinton group spent $864,000 making and airing ads in Texas and Ohio in the run-up to her victory in the March 4 primaries. And the group has at least $200,000 in the bank toward an expected air war on her behalf in Pennsylvania and the subsequent states.

American Leadership Project raised a total of $1.2 million – $1 million of which came from AFSCME, which has endorsed Clinton – since Feb. 21, according to a report it filed Wednesday with the Federal Election Commission.

The group, run by longtime Clinton allies, is registered only under section 527 of the IRS code, not as a political committee with the FEC. That allows it to raise the huge contributions barred by federal law, but also bars it from explicitly urging a vote for or against Clinton, a New York senator, or her opponent in the Democratic presidential primary, Illinois Sen. Barack Obama.

Instead, the group's ads in Texas – which it reported spending $800,000 to air – praised Clinton’s health care plan. The group spent another $31,000 in Ohio.

In addition to the AFSCME contribution, ALP got $50,000 from Jay Eisenhofer of New York City, $25,000 from Stephen Kennedy of Glenwood Springs, Colo., $20,000 from Michele Dunkerley of Mercer Island, Wash. and $10,000 each from the securities company Dain Rauscher, Inc. and longtime Clinton fundraiser William Titelman, who stayed in the Lincoln Bedroom while Bill Clinton was president.

The group has some money in the bank, and high hopes of raising more, according a spokesman.


Unions, personal friends, what a mess! Lincoln Bedroom? Bring back the good old days?

White House Guests Database

Guests Gave $624,000 to Benefit
Hillary’s Senate Campaign


LIST WHITE HOUSE GUESTS / CONTRIBUTIONS

WASHINGTON, DC, Sept 22, 2000 – Preliminary analysis of the guest list released Friday by the White House indicates that some 98 of the 361 guests who stayed either at the White House or Camp David contributed to Hillary Clinton’s Senate campaign. Those guests gave a combined $108,000 directly to the Hillary Clinton Senate Committee, and an additional $516,000 to one of the several affiliated committees operating on her behalf.

About 40% of the guests – some 146 in all – have been active contributors this election cycle. They gave a combined $5.5 million in campaign contributions, of which 98% went to the Democratic Party or Democratic candidates. Some $122,000 went to Republicans.

The biggest single recipient was the Democratic National Committee, which got $2.5 million from the guests. Democratic Party committees as a whole got $4.5 million. Al Gore’s campaign collected $142,750 from the guests.

The data was analyzed by the non-partisan Center for Responsive Politics, based on computerized records from the Federal Election Commission as well as non-computerized records filed by the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee.

The 1996 data is also still available.


Use the link above to look up how much Vin Gupta donated to the Clintons:

There's the Nebraska data processing company InfoUSA, whose CEO, Vin Gupta, used private corporate jets to fly the Clintons on business, personal, and campaign trips, gave Bill Clinton a $3.3 million consulting contract, and is now being investigated by the Securities and Exchange Commission for allegedly diverting company money to his own personal uses.


Obama camp: What's Clinton hiding?

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Obama, who released his 2006 tax returns last April, stepped up his pressure on Clinton to release her documents early last month after it was revealed the New York senator loaned her campaign $5 million.

"I think the American people deserve to know where you get your income from," he said. "I've disclosed my income tax returns. I think we set the bar in terms of transparency and disclosure that has been a consistent theme of my campaign and my career in politics.”

The New York senator did file a Senate disclosure form last May that revealed the Clinton's income for the previous year was upwards of $12 million. But, according to the Wall Street Journal, a tax return would present a more comprehensive account of the Clinton's income, and include revenue sources that aren't required on Senate disclosure forms.

"Though her campaign has tried to kick the issue down the road, Democratic voters deserve to know, right now, why it is she is hiding the information in her tax returns from last year," the Obama memo stated. "The Clinton campaign has said that they have released copious amounts of financial information but there are many questions about their private dealings that could be answered in their tax returns but not in the information that is currently available.


What's Hillary hiding?

Clintons' InfoUSA Ties Scrutinized

by Peter Overby

<...>

But most intriguing of all was the renter of the Clinton list: a list brokerage company that is a subsidiary of one of the data-collection industry titans, Info U.S.A.

Info U.S.A.'s CEO is Vinod Gupta, a close ally of both Clintons. Gupta's empire also includes the Opinion Research Corporation, which conducts the political polling for the television network CNN.

Vin Gupta has a long history of giving and raising campaign money for the Clintons, and gave $1 million for the 2000 Millennium Celebration, a New Year's Party thrown by the Clintons.

When he was president, Bill Clinton named Gupta to the Kennedy Center board of directors. Gupta also got to sleep in the Lincoln bedroom. He gave another million to the Clinton Presidential Library.

The library is run by the National Archives, but Bill Clinton raised the money for its construction and always refused to identify his major donors.

Last fall, ABC News reported that the library rented out a portion of its donor list to a list broker — the same one that rented Hillary Clinton's campaign lists.

Gupta spent $900,000 of corporate money flying the Clintons to various destinations. The Clinton campaign said in May that Info U.S.A. had been reimbursed to comply with federal campaigning and ethics rules.

After the Clintons left the White House, Gupta hired Bill Clinton as a consultant. It's one of two continuing business relationships he has had since leaving office, and it has been worth $3.3 million, in addition to the options on 100,000 shares of stock.

When challenged about that outlay of cash to the former president, Gupta has said Clinton is worth $40 million to the company.

Kevin Starke is a stock analyst in Connecticut who follows Gupta's company.

"If it were me, and I had hired Bill Clinton to the tune of $3 million, I think I would try to make a fairly distinct case for why that was money well spent, and I'm not entirely clear on why he hasn't done so," Starke said.

The corporate spending on behalf of the Clintons helped fuel a shareholder lawsuit against Gupta and 10 corporate directors.

There are plenty of other allegations in the suit about homes, cars, and a yacht for Gupta. A Delaware chancery court judge dismissed some of the allegations involving the Clintons. But the case is still proceeding. It has led to an informal inquiry by the Securities and Exchange Commission, which is also asking if Gupta misspent corporate funds.

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Polling for CNN? May explain the weird poll they put up on Obama's patriotism over the lapel pin.

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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 07:41 PM
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1. The "new politics" of hope, change & what's Hillary hiding?
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 08:10 PM
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30. The hope has nothing to do with Hillary except to dump her machine n/t.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 07:44 PM
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2. she was stupid to go negative and trust Obama to be too much of a gentleman
to sit and take it for too long. The Clinton name is not associated with squeaky cleanness. I know because I have spent 8 years of my life making excuses for them to my friends and family - NO MORE.
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DesertFlower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 07:55 PM
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6. so did i, but after hillary's
"endorsements" of McCain, i will not support her.

i have always said that i would, but after seeing this today, i have had it.
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Birthmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 07:46 PM
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3. What's Hillary hiding?
Well, if past behavior is any indication, it's probably something Bill did.
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guyanakoolaid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:19 PM
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9. Oh man, this could be an entire subthread - Q: WHAT'S HILLARY HIDING?

A: A stain on the lapel that won't come out in the wash.

A: Chelsea's evil twin in the basement.

A: Vince Foster's balls in a glass jar in the back of her closet.
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NDambi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 07:42 AM
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36. lol funny but i think hillary has her share of dirt too
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cbayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 07:51 PM
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4. But you know what's great?
No matter what you throw at her, she will get back up, brush herself off and go forward.

And that can be said for Obama as well.

It's a very impressive quality and one that I want in my President.

And both of them will need every bit of this quality as we go forward.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 07:55 PM
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5. "It's a very impressive quality and one that I want in my President." Bush! n/t
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cbayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:01 PM
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8. Not really.
I don't think of Bush as having that quality at all.

I just think he bumbles about not really hearing or feeling anything. And I've never seen him move forward.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:19 PM
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10. Eventually one of these shady deals is going to bite the Clintons in the butt. n/t
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cbayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:23 PM
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11. We will see.
This whole race is such a roller coaster, I am not prepared to predict anything.

And will be happy when we have a candidate.

And will be deliriously happy if they join forces and run together.

I apologize for hijacking you post and will leave now.
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:00 PM
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7. Ooops, I forgot about my $5 million charity, 5 times
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/26/AR2007022601542.html
Excerpted (4 paragraphs):
***
Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton and former president Bill Clinton have operated a family charity since 2001, but she failed to list it on annual Senate financial disclosure reports on five occasions.

The Ethics in Government Act requires members of Congress to disclose positions they hold with any outside entity, including nonprofit foundations. Hillary Clinton has served her family foundation as treasurer and secretary since it was established in December 2001, but none of her ethics reports since then have disclosed that fact.

The foundation has enabled the Clintons to write off more than $5 million from their taxable personal income since 2001, while dispensing $1.25 million in charitable contributions over that period.

Clinton's spokesman said her failure to report the existence of the family foundation and the senator's position as an officer was an oversight. Her office immediately amended her Senate ethics reports to add that information late yesterday after receiving inquiries from The Washington Post.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:07 PM
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32. Thanks for the link. n/t
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powergirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:24 PM
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12. This is going to be ugly
But we don't have a choice. Obama is our only chance to win the presidency.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 08:06 PM
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28. Agree! n/t
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UALRBSofL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:25 PM
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13. Are we suppose to report posts with over 4 paragraphs?
That's what I'll do.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 11:15 PM
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22. Oooh, I'm gonna tell! n/t
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nebula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:36 PM
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14. 'We've got our own kitchen sink'
Priceless, lol.

And I hope Obama destroys her with it.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 07:30 AM
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33. Hillary is busy doing it to herself. n/t
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:44 PM
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15. These Obamas are dumb enough to chase Hillary's tax return
then she'll release it and they will look foolish again. Axelrod and Obama are clearly out of their league.

Oh and good going on the "new politics" sham -- more fraud from team Obama,
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nebula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:47 PM
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18. Tax returns are only the beginning

Don't worry.
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:51 PM
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21. Don't you worry -- the Clintons are prepared----Nt
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:06 AM
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24. Are they prepared to release their tax returns now? n/t
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surfin Donating Member (250 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 08:09 PM
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29. Hillary Ken Starr Clinton demand them of Rick Lazion
What a hypocrite.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:44 PM
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16. She Was hiding the Real Hillary
Now we know who she really is ~

* Let's start with how loving they have been to African Americans.

Made us believe they adored us ~ we are now seeing their real faces and it is not a pretty sight.

*Rush knew but we didn't, how power mad they both are ~ she would step over her mother to be President. She will do anything.

*She scores a -10 in race relations,for one who should know better because she has so much "experience" getting to know people of color,she sure doesn't mine pulling out every trick in the book to inject race into the debate.

I am still stuck on that video that I know she approved. I can't believe that she called in anyone to approve it for "sensitivity."

I didn't notice the letters on the gown of the little brown child with the curly hair sleeping in the bed until I read about it in the paper

Made sure the child was black that part was OK, but what are the odds that the little black child happened to have the words Good NIGht on her pajamas with only the NIG showing?

Why didn't we see the blanket covering everything but the word GOOD?
Why did the letters just happen to be on THAT little girl?

My email is jammed with her hateful remarks and deeds against Obama!


Which face is it Hillary ? How many of them do you have?




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nebula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:46 PM
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17. Information overload.
Too much in one post. I hope he doesn't try to throw all this stuff at her at once.

It would be a case of information overload. If it's too confusing, voters won't pay attention to it. The attacks need to be delivered concisely and repetitively. And most of all, LOUDLY.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:49 PM
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20. Information is good, avoiding it is what constantly gets us into these type of messes!
Edited on Wed Mar-05-08 08:54 PM by ProSense
Slogans are deceiving. "I'm in to win."




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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 08:47 PM
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19. Hillary has NOT been vetted and it's time she is.
K&R
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 11:24 PM
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23. K & R
:thumbsup:
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BigDDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:08 AM
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25. Is she hiding BO's state Senate records????
:rofl:
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:45 AM
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26. No, those are in the public domain. What's Hillary hiding? n/t
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:33 AM
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27. Clinton aide compares Obama to Ken Starr

Clinton aide compares Obama to Ken Starr

Clinton spokesman Howard Wolfson, taking the campaign a bit meta on a conference call today, attacked Obama for attacking Clinton, and compared him to a notorious Clinton foe.

"When Senator Obama was confronted with questions over whether he was ready to be Commander-in-Chief and steward of the economy, he chose not to address those questions, but to attack Senator Clinton," Wolfson said. "I for one do not believe that imitating Ken Starr is the way to win a Democratic primary election for president."

Wolfson was attacking Obama's explicit strategy, in the wake of his March 4 losses, to attack elements of Clinton's record on the grounds of secrecy, and to revisit the questions raised by Clinton foes in the 1990s and earlier. Obama has demanded Clinton's tax returns, cited delays in releasing her White House schedules, and even made reference to trades in cattle futures in the late 1970s that became a subject of allegations during the White House years.

Wolfson also responded to the substance of Obama's complaint, that Clinton hasn't released her recent tax returns, and to the reminder today that Clinton (via Wolfson) attacked her 2000 Senate rival, Rick Lazio, for failing to release his tax returns.

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What's Hillary hiding?



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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 09:33 AM
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31. Clinton blocks release of information

Archivists block release of Clinton papers

By Peter Eisler, USA TODAY
LITTLE ROCK — Federal archivists at the Clinton Presidential Library are blocking the release of hundreds of pages of White House papers on pardons that the former president approved, including clemency for fugitive commodities trader Marc Rich.

That archivists' decision, based on guidance provided by Bill Clinton that restricts the disclosure of advice he received from aides, prevents public scrutiny of documents that would shed light on how he decided which pardons to approve from among hundreds of requests.

Clinton's legal agent declined the option of reviewing and releasing the documents that were withheld, said the archivists, who work for the federal government, not the Clintons.

The decision to withhold much of the requested material could provide fodder for critics who say that the former president and his wife, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, now seeking the Democratic presidential nomination, have been unwilling to fully release documents to public scrutiny.

Officials with the presidential campaign of Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., criticized Sen. Clinton this week for not doing more to see that records from her husband's administration are made public. "She's been reluctant to disclose information," Obama's chief strategist David Axelrod told reporters in a conference call where he specifically cited the slow release records from the Clinton library. "If she's not willing to be open with (voters) on these issues now, why would she be open as president."


What the hell are they hiding!



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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 07:37 AM
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34. Kick
Edited on Mon Mar-10-08 07:40 AM by Scurrilous
:kick:
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 07:39 AM
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35. She's hiding something. At the very least she could instruct her
accountant to provide a copy of the complete 2006 tax returns. The other candidates have.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 12:46 PM
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37. Still waiting for Hillary to release her tax return. n/t
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