Berry Cool
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Wed Mar-05-08 07:53 PM
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Has anyone found any proof that the "It's 3 a.m." ad ever ran in Ohio? |
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I ask because ever since last night Tweety has been crediting that ad with successfully "scaring" Ohio voters into voting for Hillary.
My understanding is that it ran only in Texas.
Does anyone have any evidence otherwise to correct that impression?
I guess I'm just tired of hearing how "effective" that ad was with playing the supposed "fears" of Ohioans.
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Wed Mar-05-08 07:54 PM
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It ran on Hardball, Tucker, and Countdown (and countless other shows) repeatedly. Some of them even played Obama's response ad.
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Wed Mar-05-08 07:59 PM
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:evilgrin: I'm just kidding you.
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Wed Mar-05-08 08:03 PM
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Wed Mar-05-08 08:17 PM
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16. Yes. I have heard of Google. There is no need to be insulting. |
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I could not find any useful information that way, so I asked for at least some anecdotal evidence.
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Wed Mar-05-08 08:20 PM
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Wed Mar-05-08 08:25 PM
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That wasn't for you. :eyes:
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Wed Mar-05-08 08:30 PM
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25. Obviously that means NO |
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You and The Couric - "Some people say" the ad ran in Ohio - whatever.
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Wed Mar-05-08 07:54 PM
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2. Tweety and Andrea Mitchell were discussing this last night. |
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I don't think it did air in Ohio, but it aired so much on the m$m it was hard to miss.
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Wed Mar-05-08 07:55 PM
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that it did NOT run in Ohio, but since it was played so much by the media, a lot of people probably saw it anyway.
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Wed Mar-05-08 07:55 PM
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3. It's the option of a few media nitwits that pretend to have a handle |
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on the collective psyche of the entire voting public.
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Wed Mar-05-08 07:56 PM
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4. Tweety et al and all of the networks kept running it again and again...... |
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and talked about it for two or three days. More than any media buy would get you! Doh!
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Wed Mar-05-08 07:56 PM
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5. I Never Saw It Here. n/t |
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Wed Mar-05-08 07:58 PM
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6. On Morning Joe this AM Joe and Mika talked about how many times |
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they ran it and other MSNBC shows played it. (and don't forget how many political web sites had it as well as the Clinton campaign emailing it all over as well).
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Wed Mar-05-08 08:05 PM
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10. I don't mean, was it possible for anyone in Ohio to see it. Obviously, that was possible. |
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You could watch it on TV shows, YouTube, etc. (If I may add, duh.)
But that was a choice. Any time you watch an ad that's featured as part of a TV program or on YouTube, it's a choice.
That was not what I meant. What I meant was, were people who otherwise would not watch it subjected to it? Ambushed with it, so to speak, while watching something else.
I think one comes to an ad with a different frame of mind when one chooses to watch it or watch a program about it than when it merely appears along with a host of other purchased ads.
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Wed Mar-05-08 08:27 PM
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24. I don't know how many political ads were shown in the non-political realm |
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If a person watched the morning/noon/evening news they possible could have ended up seeing the ad in a news broadast about the upcoming election. If the person watched The Price Is Right or Days of Our Lives I don't think they would have seen any political ad.
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Wed Mar-05-08 08:05 PM
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9. I live in Ohio and I saw it played on TV. |
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Wed Mar-05-08 08:07 PM
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13. Not on a show? But as an ad on TV? |
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I heard on CNN that it didn't run in Ohio, but I would believe you before them.
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Wed Mar-05-08 08:05 PM
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11. Even if it never played in Ohio |
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Edited on Wed Mar-05-08 08:06 PM by NJSecularist
The national media covered it a ton for the last 48 hours before the primaries. Hillary got tons of free press, and plenty of potential voters in Ohio saw this ad.
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Wed Mar-05-08 08:07 PM
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14. I repeat, I'm not talking about whether anyone in Ohio was capable of seeing it. |
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I'm in Ohio, and I saw it. But I saw it discussed on programs. I did not see it as a collection of purchased ads--which was the question I was asking.
If someone else in Ohio did, thank you; you answered my question.
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Wed Mar-05-08 08:06 PM
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12. OK I thought Keith was just playing it again! |
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But it was him doing "a funny."
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Wed Mar-05-08 08:10 PM
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15. I saw it. It was a good ad, made a valid point |
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While pointing out Obama's lack of foreign policy experience was painful for him, it has to be discussed. Its a valid issue.
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Wed Mar-05-08 08:19 PM
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18. But Hillary has an equal lack of foreign policy experience. |
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Eight years as First Lady does not equal foreign policy experience.
I found the ad utterly unconvincing and was disgusted by the blatant attempt to play to my alleged fears. (I don't have children, but, anyway.)
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Wed Mar-05-08 08:19 PM
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17. I live in Dayton, and never saw it on local or national TV. n/t |
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Edited on Wed Mar-05-08 08:20 PM by Kukesa
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Wed Mar-05-08 08:23 PM
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20. It ran repeatedly, and for free, on the msm |
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lots of people were talking about it here in Minnesota, and we caucused long ago.
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Wed Mar-05-08 08:23 PM
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21. Bookmarking - They said today it only aired via the MSM coverage |
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Odd that the media is supposedly so influential that Ohio tanked because of the ad, yet Florida was supposedly so uninformed that they didn't know who Obama was because he only ran an add or two there. :)
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Wed Mar-05-08 08:24 PM
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22. From what I understand |
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they never paid to air the ad in Ohio, I remember that coming up last night but remember reading somewhere that it only ran in TX.
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Wed Mar-05-08 08:33 PM
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26. It didn't run in Ohio, just Texas. nt |
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Wed Mar-05-08 08:34 PM
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27. I'm in Toledo and I never saw it. nt |
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Wed Mar-05-08 08:48 PM
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28. If it was never a paid-for ad run in Ohio, I fail to see how it accounts for the primary results. |
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An ad simply doesn't have the same effect when you're watching it in the context of a TV program in which pundits are analyzing and deconstructing its message. Especially not one specifically designed to play on your emotions and NOT make you think.
I am beginning to believe the media meme that "Ohioans were scared into voting for Hillary because of this ad" is as bogus as I suspected.
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Wed Mar-05-08 09:08 PM
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29. I just asked my wife if she saw it... |
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She watches a lot more TV than I do and she said the only time she saw it was when the cable news shows aired it.
They might have run the ad in other markets like Cincy and Cleveland, but we never saw it.
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Wed Mar-05-08 10:36 PM
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30. Apparently, the ad never ran in Ohio, Berry. K&R |
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